[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

Hey Skyguy! Thanks for sharing such valuable and accurate information in this thread. I haven't been in TV for a few months and have wondered about the details of the new primary health care system. BTW, if it happens like it appears it will, it will be the best Christmas present we folks have ever received. Thank you Mr Morse!!
My first question is whether you have seen a time line for the opening of the additional centers?

Before we thank Mr. Morse, I think we should wait to see if Villagers like it.
I suppose some will and some won't. I think it's going to take a while before we get a sense of all the pros and cons.

[ijusluvit]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Before we thank Mr. Morse, I think we should wait to see if Villagers like it.
I suppose some will and some won't. I think it's going to take a while before we get a sense of all the pros and cons.

Are you always so negative? Read what I said. I qualified my praise for Mr. Morse. And I stand by my view of the concept.

I think it takes guts and maturity to admit that your 'multi-billion dollar baby' might be a great place to live but that the health care is not very good. Then to embark on a plan to build 6-10 centers to make care accessible, at HIS expense!! Who's forcing him to do that?

geeeeezzzzzzz

[Roaddog53]

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

Are you always so negative? Read what I said. I qualified my praise for Mr. Morse. And I stand by my view of the concept.

I think it takes guts and maturity to admit that your 'multi-billion dollar baby' might be a great place to live but that the health care is not very good. Then to embark on a plan to build 6-10 centers to make care accessible, at HIS expense!! Who's forcing him to do that?

geeeeezzzzzzz

Have to agree with you. NO ONE is forcing ANY of these people to go to the new system. Once again, the Morse family is trying to make things better for all. They see a need/deficiency and are trying to correct it with this new this system. People are condemning the entire new system already because they either are not a part of it like they feel they should be, the "me me" attitude of many, or it is not being done fast enough for their liking. I ACTUALLY heard in conversations why do they have to wait versus others who got the invite..Why pick that area first, we were here first, who picks doctors, patients, etc.. Next we will here it was the people with "pull" that got first invites! lol Remember...They didn't have to do it at all! IF it wasn't there, the options would be:
1) Live with what is here now and find your own doctors and hospital you are comfortable going to henceforth. Resolve that it may be too long for you to get into the new system so find something now.
2) Move back to where you came from and complain how bad or good it was there in health care. Than complain on how bad/good the weather and other factors were there. I read some did move back for this reason.
3) Move somewhere else by doing your homework on your "high priority" health care in that new area. What would you be "giving up" for that great health care you want.
4) Wait like everyone else to be invited, and if you are so inclineed than, try it.

[OldDave]

As I said earlier I like the idea of this kind of care, it is badly needed in this country. And places like the Cleveland Clinic and Mayo have proven it works better for the patient and the doctor alike. Of course, who knows if the actual product here will live up to the plan. I certainly hope it does. I know a lot of doctors personally from my career. I find most of them hate the current system of being pressured to order all the tests and procedures they possible can justify. And they see so many patients a day it kills them.

I continue to be puzzled by the argument about "thank you Mr. Morse." It seems we are divided between people who think the Morse family is some dark force hiding from the world and manipulating the TV realm. On the other side people who think everything they do is for the personal good of the residents.

I don't understand either position. This is a business. They are trying to develop a product that continues to sell and make them a handsome return. I don't find any room in that model for them being benevolent to the residents. They are just trying to make it work and work well. If everyone here likes it, all the better. They don't have to plant beautiful flowers and trees, but it makes everyone happier, thus more profitable in the long run.

These clinics will clearly make a profit or they would not be building them. One of the motivations may be that every study I've seen shows these types of practices actually make a better level of profit and their customers and their employees are happier. Sounds like just the kind of place for the bubble.
Plus the developer is surely aware of the millions of dollars going up and down the road to seek medical care outside. I think it could be a gold mine, AND make everyone happier, and healthier.

I sincerely hope it works well and is fully in place mb the time we get there.

[gomoho]

OLDDAVE - I think you are right on with your evaluation. This is a business and TV Healthcare System is part of the business plan - not, as you said, some lovely pie-in-the-sky gift the developer wishes to bestow upon his kingdom. If it works as planned we will all benefit from another idea the Morse family had and acted upon.

Roaddog53 - I believe if you knew of the hoops I have jumped through since June inquiring about The Villages Health System and the fact I live in Hadley and have had many promises broken by those that shouldn't have been making them, you might not be so quick to criticize my frustration.

But what I find most interesting is my original question was "have you been to the new facility as a patient and what are your thoughts" Have yet to have a response to this question.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

Are you always so negative? Read what I said. I qualified my praise for Mr. Morse. And I stand by my view of the concept.

I think it takes guts and maturity to admit that your 'multi-billion dollar baby' might be a great place to live but that the health care is not very good. Then to embark on a plan to build 6-10 centers to make care accessible, at HIS expense!! Who's forcing him to do that?

geeeeezzzzzzz

Excuse me! Waiting to see how it turns out before giving praise is being negative?

Perhaps you are being negative when you say that Villages health-care is not very good. I like my doctor and I'm sure there are many others who are satisfied with their doctors too. Perhaps the ones who are the most dissatisfied are those who have complex health issues but many of them might be surprised to find that they will be expected to do something themselves to EARN better health. Good luck to them.

[ijusluvit]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Excuse me! Waiting to see how it turns out before giving praise is being negative?

Perhaps you are being negative when you say that Villages health-care is not very good. I like my doctor and I'm sure there are many others who are satisfied with their doctors too. Perhaps the ones who are the most dissatisfied are those who have complex health issues but many of them might be surprised to find that they will be expected to do something themselves to EARN better health. Good luck to them.

No, what's happened so far is worthy of praise. It's a rather noble effort and one of the reasons I like living here.
It's not my statement. If you had looked at the official TV report included in this thread, this is what you would have seen:

The Vision

The Villages is a phenomenon, becoming the largest over 55 community by far in the U.S in only 25 years. In a league of its own, The Villages has taken the concept of a “planned community” to a level never before seen—anywhere. Yet, The Villages suffers what our nation suffers: an unhealthy health care “system,” in which patients consistently express considerable dissatisfaction with everything from care-access to care-quality....

And again, based on the report, Mr. Morse is putting up his money to build 6-10 regional centers. EFFORT deserves praise in my book. And like I said earlier, if it works it will be our best Christmas present.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

..........And again, based on the report, Mr. Morse is putting up his money to build 6-10 regional centers. EFFORT deserves praise in my book. And like I said earlier, if it works it will be our best Christmas present.

I agree. But....there are a few people here that would condemn and despise the developer if he invented a $10 pill that cures all cancers, simply because they either envy his money and success, or because they are intolerant of his political party.

There are also a few here who would complain about and condemn the developer for the (hypothetical) $10 cancer-curing pill, because it is not "free" to them or they have to pay a $2 co-pay or deductible. They seem "entitled" to such things, for free.

Also, I get really disgusted with people condemning Mr. Morse for developing this medical concept and practice "only for the money". I think these armchair developers and "experts" on developing and financing this innovative new medical system need to stop and think about the time this family spent watching their wife/mother battle cancer and eventually pass away. To me, it's pretty cold-blooded to accuse the survivors of a cancer victim of pressing on toward this community medical system because they're "in it only for the money". Actually, it is quite disgusting.

Sharon Morse, Wife Of Developer, Dies - Orlando Sentinel

[ijusluvit]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I agree. But....there are a few people here that would condemn and despise the developer if he invented a $10 pill that cures all cancers, simply because they either envy his money and success, or because they are intolerant of his political party.

There are also a few here who would complain about and condemn the developer for the (hypothetical) $10 cancer-curing pill, because it is not "free" to them or they have to pay a $2 co-pay or deductible. They seem "entitled" to such things, for free.

Also, I get really disgusted with people condemning Mr. Morse for developing this medical concept and practice "only for the money". I think these armchair developers and "experts" on developing and financing this innovative new medical system need to stop and think about the time this family spent watching their wife/mother battle cancer and eventually pass away. To me, it's pretty cold-blooded to accuse the survivors of a cancer victim of pressing on toward this community medical system because they're "in it only for the money". Actually, it is quite disgusting.

Sharon Morse, Wife Of Developer, Dies - Orlando Sentinel

Well said.

[NotGolfer]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I agree. But....there are a few people here that would condemn and despise the developer if he invented a $10 pill that cures all cancers, simply because they either envy his money and success, or because they are intolerant of his political party.

There are also a few here who would complain about and condemn the developer for the (hypothetical) $10 cancer-curing pill, because it is not "free" to them or they have to pay a $2 co-pay or deductible. They seem "entitled" to such things, for free.

Also, I get really disgusted with people condemning Mr. Morse for developing this medical concept and practice "only for the money". I think these armchair developers and "experts" on developing and financing this innovative new medical system need to stop and think about the time this family spent watching their wife/mother battle cancer and eventually pass away. To me, it's pretty cold-blooded to accuse the survivors of a cancer victim of pressing on toward this community medical system because they're "in it only for the money". Actually, it is quite disgusting.

Sharon Morse, Wife Of Developer, Dies - Orlando Sentinel

Chiming in to agree....well said!! I for one don't know why folks who live here continually criticise most everything. Maybe because they can?? But to me, if one is dissatisfied try somewhere else instead. They will counter "we like the lifestyle" (????) Seems they're talking out of both sides of their mouths in that case. I'm excited the developer is working on making good health-care available here.

[skyc6]

Originally Posted by islandgal

I see they do not accept secondary insurance - not good

When I called, their accepted insurance list was extensive, but you are right in that if you have a secondary insurance, they will not file it and you will have to do that paperwork yourself.
Also, initially a female Dr. named Horner was listed in the paper as being one of the Dr.s coming to Colony and now she is not. Her practice is too established in Bellview and she will remain there.

[skyc6]

Originally Posted by skyc6

When I called, their accepted insurance list was extensive, but you are right in that if you have a secondary insurance, they will not file it and you will have to do that paperwork yourself.
Also, initially a female Dr. named Horner was listed in the paper as being one of the Dr.s coming to Colony and now she is not. Her practice is too established in Bellview and she will remain there.

Also, I read an interesting article in HEALTH magazine this morning. In the article, they interviewed 8-to10 women who have lived to be 100 years old. They asked them what they did or did not do to achieve this. The answers were varied, but each was commented on by a Dr. who weighed in on their ideas. Positive thinking and expectations and positive interractions with their friends was determined to be a powerful ingredient of long lived happy folks!
So I say,' quit yer kevetching' and enjoy what we have here for many, many in the world are not so fortunate.

[Bobcuse]

Originally Posted by skyc6

When I called, their accepted insurance list was extensive, but you are right in that if you have a secondary insurance, they will not file it and you will have to do that paperwork yourself.
Also, initially a female Dr. named Horner was listed in the paper as being one of the Dr.s coming to Colony and now she is not. Her practice is too established in Bellview and she will remain there.

Dr Horner and Dr Pead continue to practice in TV. Although they were slated to move to Colony in the new office, they decided to keep them near their previous location (next to Lowes) by relocating them in the Sharon Morse Building near the hospital. When the Regional Health Care center is built in that area, they supposedly will move there.

[skyc6]

Originally Posted by Bobcuse

Dr Horner and Dr Pead continue to practice in TV. Although they were slated to move to Colony in the new office, they decided to keep them near their previous location (next to Lowes) by relocating them in the Sharon Morse Building near the hospital. When the Regional Health Care center is built in that area, they supposedly will move there.

When my neighbor asked Dr. Horner last week when she was moving, since this is why the neighbor began going to her, she said she didn't know if she was. The practice would have to decide who was going when the time came, but she didn't think it would be her.

[shalabama]

I went to the offices this morning thinking I could be seen or get an appointment. Remember reading that this was a "marcus welby" type of practice. When I asked to be seen by a doctor as I live in Sanibel, I was told that I was not in their system and could not become a patient until I received an invitation. Instead I was referred to the Urgent Care Center at the Villages Hospital. They were not the least bit busy with only 1 person waiting. What kind of concept is this? It sounds more like a country club that a medical facility.