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JMHO. If you have excellent care at home, love your doctors, can make easy appointments, have technology assisted care with email and billing, STAY THERE. This place is a joke. Specialists are booked way out. Primary care is impossible unless you have been here a while or are using Villages Health. I can't so I use Tricare for life. The insurance is GREAT but finding and accessing timely healthcare is almost impossible. The system in Florida is BROKE. Offices are jammed and waits are long. Admin staffs are rude and over worked. I say a gain, if you LOVE your healthcare at home, keep it and stay there!. Heart Bypass surgery in Leesburg was phenominal but follow on care with my pcp and specialty is a JOKE!
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Old 02-03-2018, 01:38 PM
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One can very easily obtain medical knowledge, rudimentary or advanced, through the Internet. Whenever I had a medical situation that I knew nothing about, I always made it my business to check it out before going to the appointment. My PCP wished everyone else in town would do same.

So if we have computers or there are libraries with computers, there is no excuse to not gain knowledge on one's own.
There's lots of medical misinformation on the web. Even WebMD is not recommended. Besides, by advocate, I mean more of a when-you-are-in-the-ER. Advance planning is fine, but when you're under fire, who's to know how to advocate or even what to look out for.
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There's lots of medical misinformation on the web. Even WebMD is not recommended. Besides, by advocate, I mean more of a when-you-are-in-the-ER. Advance planning is fine, but when you're under fire, who's to know how to advocate or even what to look out for.
You make several very good points. I wish I had an answer for you, but unfortunately even if a family member can advocate for you they may not be available at the time of a real emergency. But having an advocate can still be valuable on follow-up. For example, many years ago my husband asked my mother's cardiologist why he couldn't order cardiac rehab for her after she experienced an event. The cardiologist responded that because it was not diagnosed as a true heart attack, he could not. But my husband, being the persistent one that he is, said, why do we have to wait for that to happen. She obviously had a heart condition, why not take preventative measures. Lo and behold, and even to the doctor's surprise, the insurance did end up covering for her to have cardiac rehab.

What I'm trying to say by this is having someone who is not afraid to think outside of the box and ask questions can really make a difference. Unfortunately, it may not be feasible in all instances as you state.

Regarding medical misinformation on the web, I couldn't agree with you more. That's why I had recommended the sites from medical institutions instead in a previous post.
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You make several very good points. I wish I had an answer for you, but unfortunately even if a family member can advocate for you they may not be available at the time of a real emergency. But having an advocate can still be valuable on follow-up. For example, many years ago my husband asked my mother's cardiologist why he couldn't order cardiac rehab for her after she experienced an event. The cardiologist responded that because it was not diagnosed as a true heart attack, he could not. But my husband, being the persistent one that he is, said, why do we have to wait for that to happen. She obviously had a heart condition, why not take preventative measures. Lo and behold, and even to the doctor's surprise, the insurance did end up covering for her to have cardiac rehab.

What I'm trying to say by this is having someone who is not afraid to think outside of the box and ask questions can really make a difference. Unfortunately, it may not be feasible in all instances as you state.

Regarding medical misinformation on the web, I couldn't agree with you more. That's why I had recommended the sites from medical institutions instead in a previous post.
And I thank you for those sites, Abby 10, which I have bookmarked for reading. We're readying a house for sale right now (though not leaving TV or even Tamarind Grove).

I like the think-outside-the-box idea. That would definitely be our older son, who got it from his father and took it to another level.
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And I thank you for those sites, Abby 10, which I have bookmarked for reading. We're readying a house for sale right now (though not leaving TV or even Tamarind Grove).

I like the think-outside-the-box idea. That would definitely be our older son, who got it from his father and took it to another level.
Sure glad to hear that.
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This book may help some of you as it helped me tremendously: Snowball in a Blizzard by Steven Hatch, pub 2016. It helped me gain enough confidence to stop one of my providers from bullying me into getting a biopsy after a mammogram which remained the same year after year for 20 years.
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There's lots of medical misinformation on the web. Even WebMD is not recommended. Besides, by advocate, I mean more of a when-you-are-in-the-ER. Advance planning is fine, but when you're under fire, who's to know how to advocate or even what to look out for.
WemMD is not recommended by whom? I have found it to be very helpful and almost identical to Mayo Clinic, etc.

But you're right in that in cases of new medical situations that we have never experienced before, it would not be possible to gain enough knowledge beforehand to ask good questions and to understand what is going on and may happen.

In the current situations in ERs in TV, it sounds as if though flu is the biggest culprit. Flu has been all over the news, and there is no excuse for anyone to not bother to read up on it beforehand in the event they do get it.
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This book may help some of you as it helped me tremendously: Snowball in a Blizzard by Steven Hatch, pub 2016. It helped me gain enough confidence to stop one of my providers from bullying me into getting a biopsy after a mammogram which remained the same year after year for 20 years.
Thank you for mentioning this. Looks like a good book. I had not heard of it before. In looking it over briefly on-line, it reminds me of something else I often say - that although medicine is based on science and uses scientific methods, it is, of itself, not an exact science. Biggest reason being our bodies are all different. If you take the exact same medicine and put it in different bodies, even though the diagnosis may be the same for each, the results will not necessarily be the same. That's why it's so important that you are in touch with your own body and that you relay any peculiarities to your doctor. And then even so, it is often trial and error to find the right treatment for each patient.

But getting back to your statement above - yes, don't be afraid to ask questions or speak up. It's encouraging to hear about some of your experiences. It goes back to advocacy - if you have a difficult time being your own advocate, find one who will be one for you.
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This book may help some of you as it helped me tremendously: Snowball in a Blizzard by Steven Hatch, pub 2016. It helped me gain enough confidence to stop one of my providers from bullying me into getting a biopsy after a mammogram which remained the same year after year for 20 years.
Please, please tell me there really isn't a doctor out there that wanted to biopsy a 20 year old unchanged breast lesion. Please. I don't know if I should be angry, amused, scared, or just pity his patients.
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There's lots of medical misinformation on the web. Even WebMD is not recommended. Besides, by advocate, I mean more of a when-you-are-in-the-ER. Advance planning is fine, but when you're under fire, who's to know how to advocate or even what to look out for.


And lots of medical BS is being spread on this thread. Be careful CF. There is a lot of snake oil being passed for medical expertise here. Ask where a poster’s source of medical expertise comes from. If it from an individual’s research on the internet, that should be an issue. Do they have any real life expertise in medical care or the health system?

If someone is suggesting that an individual should not move here because of medical issues, I CALL BS. They don’t know what they are talking about. Plain and simple.



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And lots of medical BS is being spread on this thread. Be careful CF. There is a lot of snake oil being passed for medical expertise here. Ask where a poster’s source of medical expertise comes from. If it from an individual’s research on the internet, that should be an issue. Do they have any real life expertise in medical care or the health system?

If someone is suggesting that an individual should not move here because of medical issues, I CALL BS. They don’t know what they are talking about. Plain and simple.



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That's why I first posted the medical advocate question to you, db.


And I hope you saw my responses, including how to check on physicians, other providers, and facilities. On top of that, listen to what Golfing Eagles has to say. If I have let you down, tell me what I need to let you know, CF.


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And I hope you saw my responses, including how to check on physicians, other providers, and facilities. On top of that, listen to what Golfing Eagles has to say. If I have let you down, tell me what I need to let you know, CF.


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Well, apparently the stress of packing for a move and putting her house on the market caught up with Barbara and she made a 911 trip to The Villages Regional Hospital last night.

Arriving at the Emergency Room by ambulance meant that she was seen immediately, and she was tucked into a cubicle in the ER, where she is still housed at 4:15PM the next day.

She and about twenty other people are in the ER waiting for people to check out upstairs so they can be moved to a room. When she arrived last night there were 100 people in the ER waiting room.

Apparently a lot of the crowd was stricken by the Flu. In fact, there is so much Flu in the ER area that people are not allowed to visit patients who are in the ER awaiting being moved upstairs.

Barbara's problem is not the Flu, so she is being kept away from other ER patients. Hopefully, she will be treated and released in a couple of days.

Be careful about your health in this Flu season.
Hello Mr. Carl, how is your lady friend Barbara doing it has been a while since you posted about the ER visit. Hope all is well. Nucky

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