[biker1]

Since I didn't see an emoticon I am assuming you are serious. I doubt that will happen.

Originally Posted by maureenod

Sounds like a lot of houses will be going on the market. And, many new builds will not be sold.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by maureenod

Sounds like a lot of houses will be going on the market. And, many new builds will not be sold.

Really? When we bought here, the attraction was the myriad of activities available for each of us, the beauty of the entire development, and the attractive homes. We had to change our health care plan because it was local to our former home. When VHS started, we changed again. Now, we may have to change again. But I wouldn't sell and move because of it. Too many very good friends and acquaintances here. And I think TV sells itself with or without VHS.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by maureenod

Sounds like a lot of houses will be going on the market. And, many new builds will not be sold.

Why, are you a resident, and know some secret info. We sold our first house in 3 days, find that anywhere in the country

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by maureenod

Sounds like a lot of houses will be going on the market. And, many new builds will not be sold.

I'm assuming you think there will be a mass exodus from The Villages due to the TVH announcement?
And a boycott of new builds? I don't think that will happen.

[NYGUY]

Originally Posted by maureenod

Sounds like a lot of houses will be going on the market. And, many new builds will not be sold.

The average person isn't thinking about Doctors and insurance. They are thinking about golf and pools and Rec Center activities and clubs etc.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce

I couldn't pick GE out of a line-up of two, but I have always thought and continue to think of him as an honorable man.

Originally Posted by outlaw

And sometimes you think you know someone....I sure wouldn't buy a used car from someone who thinks what TVH is doing is acceptable behavior.

Originally Posted by outlaw

And those actions by you would be considered dishonest/unethical by an honest person...which makes me wonder about someone that actually thinks those actions are perfectly acceptable.

TY, Joyce. I think outlaw missed my point I would not
consider misleading info acceptable, I was simply trying to draw the line between IMPLYING, VERBALLY PROMISING and getting it in WRITING. Implying is the weakest, since it also requires an inference by the listener.

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by maureenod

Sounds like a lot of houses will be going on the market. And, many new builds will not be sold.

Total nonsense.

New builds are marketed mainly to newbies who are newly retired, ages 55 to 65.

That's a 10-year age group of people who are not on Medicare plans, and therefore they choose their primary doctors the same way they always have, thru their PPO or their HMO plans.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

TY, Joyce. I think outlaw missed my point I would not
consider misleading info acceptable, I was simply trying to draw the line between IMPLYING, VERBALLY PROMISING and getting it in WRITING. Implying is the weakest, since it also requires an inference by the listener.

golfing eagles: First, I concur with most here.. enjoy learning from your insightful posts. However, as to the aforementioned I wish I had a nickel for every time we defended a breach of contract lawsuit based on implied promises. An implied promise has been ruled to have changed the written contract in more than one ruling


And you are right in explaining that the health market, etc is driving much of this. However, all things equal I am not aware of another system or group of doctors or single practitioner who will only accept one insurer. As a consumer I am not happy that government or insurance is stepping in between my doctor and me. etc etc etc. In network are creating a real pricing problem for out of networks. ACA is replacing medicare pushing for a single payer system

Personally I have no dog in this fight because my canvasing when I first moved here led me to the Munroe System and its a losing argument to go against anything that remotely connects to TV.

Personal Best Regards:

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

Wow! I've read some pros, some neutrality and a lot of cons on this insurance change; people, if the developers are doing this for The Villages, they were here long before you, with their decisions and they will be here long after you, with their decisions. You either stay status quo and find a new physician or change your insurance and stay with your physician; time to move on and get over it. Full disclosure, we have Federal Government BC/BS and can stay where we are but my mother-in-law will have to make changes; it is what it is, my wife is having to make the changes for her, but life goes on.

Whoa! I may have misunderstood this. Are you saying that if you have Fed Govt BSBC you can stay with TVH? Maybe that's why we haven't received the letter.

[rubicon]

Hi GG

"Thou shalt not have false gods before me

A person can love a corporation but a corporation can't and won't love you back.

A Developer by any other name is a Developer be it Donald Trump or Gary Morse. They are good at what they do and they are clever in their marketing. They leverage their businesses over a long period and have a return thrice over...maybe more

So when it comes to flashpoints here between The Villages of Lake Sumter Inc ( Developer) or District ( government) I default to residents as it aligns with my financial interest, unless there is something I view as being unfair to the other side. Its business and its not personal and I have serious doubt any of it has anything to do with jealousy nor do I view the business side of it as greed..... "whatever the traffic will bear is capitalism"

You may not always be right but you will always be Gracie...so don't change we need a variety of different opinions to get to the truth of things.

Most of us on TOTV are just passing time and trying to keep our minds and fingers alert.

Stay well

Personal Best Regards:

Rubicon says that you shouldn't have positive feelings for a corporation...I can have any kind of feelings I want. I am old enough to recognize when something is well run and the owners are still working. Some call that greed, others call it success. I like it. I say Yay Villages. Good for you.

I think The Villages are run far better than the country is.

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by rubicon

golfing eagles: First, I concur with most here.. enjoy learning from your insightful posts. However, as to the aforementioned I wish I had a nickel for every time we defended a breach of contract lawsuit based on implied promises. An implied promise has been ruled to have changed the written contract in more than one ruling

And you are right in explaining that the health market, etc is driving much of this. However, all things equal I am not aware of another system or group of doctors or single practitioner who will only accept one insurer. As a consumer I am not happy that government or insurance is stepping in between my doctor and me. etc etc etc. In network are creating a real pricing problem for out of networks. ACA is replacing medicare pushing for a single payer system

Personally I have no dog in this fight because my canvasing when I first moved here led me to the Munroe System and its a losing argument to go against anything that remotely connects to TV.
Personal Best Regards:

Below are the "Accepted Insurances' at TVHealth. There ARE other insurer's plans accepted.

As I stated above, there is a significant new population here or coming here, who are 55-65 years old, and will not be involved with Medicare for another 7, 8, 9, or 10 years! And if the politicians have their way, newbies under 65 will probably be looking at 70 years old being Medicare age, anyway!

Or, like us, they are still employed and we have employer-based PPO coverage that is in this accepted list.

Note: Medicare enrollees are not the only people living here!

It would be foolish NOT to market to people younger than Medicare age, as they are bringing private insurer dollars in where Medicare reimbursement falls short of operating costs.

Accepted Insurances:

If you are eligible for Medicare, we want you to know that the only Medicare Advantage plans The Villages Health participates in are those offered by UnitedHealthcare®.

UnitedHealthcare® The Villages® MedicareComplete® (HMO) Plan 1
UnitedHealthcare® The Villages® MedicareComplete® (HMO) Plan 2
AARP® Medicare Complete Choice® (Regional PPO)
AARP® Medicare Complete Choice® (HMO)
United Healthcare® Medicare Advantage Dual Complete
We continue to Participate with the following Commercial Insurances:

Avmed
Blue Cross & Blue Shield
Cigna
Multiplan
Private Healthcare System/PHCS
Tricare Standard
United Healthcare

Accepted Insurance by The Villages Health

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I would have loved to be part of Villages health........

....As for defending The Villages., I think it is a great, well run and making it's owners very rich. AND that ****es a lot of people off. They are jealous, but the owners risked their OWN money for expansion. They could have chosen to stop at any time but they are employing people who have families.....for one.

Rubicon says that you shouldn't have positive feelings for a corporation...I can have any kind of feelings I want. I am old enough to recognize when something is well run and the owners are still working. Some call that greed, others call it success. I like it. I say Yay Villages. Good for you.

I think The Villages are run far better than the country is.

It looks like affordable health care is an impossible dream and it looks like The Villages tried and failed to provide it. They failed. They aren't God and they aren't your mom.

Bravo!

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by rubicon

...A person can love a corporation but a corporation can't and won't love you back...

I agree with much of your post, rubicon. But not this part, stated in such absolute terms.

Corporations exist to make money. And I have no problem with that at all. But corporations are also made up of people.

It may not always happen, but the love can be in both directions.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

I agree with much of your post, rubicon. But not this part, stated in such absolute terms.

Corporations exist to make money. And I have no problem with that at all. But corporations are also made up of people.

It may not always happen, but the love can be in both directions.

And besides, according to Citizen's United, corporations are people, too

[villagetinker]

Does anyone have a copy of the 2016 UHC plan F and plan N enrollment guides. These are the supplement plans that we have, and I threw away these documents when we signed up (we were grandfathered....). Now I am in the process of comparing the 2016 "accepted" plans against what we currently have. I would only need these for a couple of hours or up to 2 days, thank you.