[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Slow drivers are NOT “law abiding”, they are violating the statute against obstructing traffic and if they are dawdling in the left lane they are also violating the statute that requires them to move over. And I can’t imagine anyone with half a brain thinks anyone traveling faster than the car ahead would just run right into his rear end

One lane of traffic traveling at the posted legal speed limit is not obstructing anyone driving leagally. A speeding driver has no legal right to expect or demand others act unsafely or illeagally for them. Honesty and integrity, IMHO, demands playing by the rules/laws that we all voted for through our elected representatives. If you are a speeder, you are a scoff-law, law breaker. Like a thief, a drunk driver, under the influence of whatever, and you get caught, you deserve the worst punishment the law allows for endangering the public ... IMO.
Just as doctors are held to a standard of honesty and integrity by the Hypocratic oath, drivers should be held to a similar standard while driving.
Maybe, if people are so untrustworthy that they can't drive at or below speed limits (when safety is required), then no passenger car should be capable of speeds exceeding a state determined maximum. I submit 60 mph, or the metric equivalent. Chevy or Bentley, Ford or Ferrari, max speed 60.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Slow drivers are NOT “law abiding”, they are violating the statute against obstructing traffic and if they are dawdling in the left lane they are also violating the statute that requires them to move over. And I can’t imagine anyone with half a brain thinks anyone traveling faster than the car ahead would just run right into his rear end

Most of the time, they are law abiding. Sometimes heavy traffic demands slow speed. Zero excuses for rearenders... but they happen a lot. Following too closely. Or going too fast. Speed should be determined by the leader, not the followers. They have no idea what is going on infront.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

One lane of traffic traveling at the posted legal speed limit is not obstructing anyone driving leagally.

Not referring to those driving at the LEGAL speed limit, rather those going 10-20+ under it, especially in the left lane. They ARE breaking the law by obstructing traffic or not moving right.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not referring to those driving at the LEGAL speed limit, rather those going 10-20+ under it, especially in the left lane. They ARE breaking the law by obstructing traffic or not moving right.

Speed limits are set for optimum conditions. When conditions deteriorate (rain, fog, smoke, night) or if there is something that could be affecting the ability of the vehicle ahead to be operated at the optimum speed limit, said situation may not be immediately obvious from a vehicle following. Could be mechanical, medical, physical, etc. To react with anger or impatience is not going to help the situation at all. Slow down, back off, emergency blinkers to warn others of the problem. Pass when you can do so safely. Don't try to teach them a lesson.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Speed limits are set for optimum conditions. When conditions deteriorate (rain, fog, smoke, night) or if there is something that could be affecting the ability of the vehicle ahead to be operated at the optimum speed limit, said situation may not be immediately obvious from a vehicle following. Could be mechanical, medical, physical, etc. To react with anger or impatience is not going to help the situation at all. Slow down, back off, emergency blinkers to warn others of the problem. Pass when you can do so safely. Don't try to teach them a lesson.

Not talking about abnormal road conditions either. Stop being obtuse

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not talking about abnormal road conditions either. Stop being obtuse

I don’t see "me" as obtuse.. I am merely pointing out that faster vehicles catch up to slower vehicles, while slower vehicles do not "catch up with faster vehicles. The decision of how to deal with this natural phenomenon is on the faster driver. Hopefully, they will choose the legal, safe, compassionate decision. In my observation, they rarely do. Too self centered and in a hurry to give a s**t. It's always the other persons fault.

[Danube]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

One lane of traffic traveling at the posted legal speed limit is not obstructing anyone driving leagally. A speeding driver has no legal right to expect or demand others act unsafely or illeagally for them. Honesty and integrity, IMHO, demands playing by the rules/laws that we all voted for through our elected representatives. If you are a speeder, you are a scoff-law, law breaker. Like a thief, a drunk driver, under the influence of whatever, and you get caught, you deserve the worst punishment the law allows for endangering the public ... IMO.
Just as doctors are held to a standard of honesty and integrity by the Hypocratic oath, drivers should be held to a similar standard while driving.
Maybe, if people are so untrustworthy that they can't drive at or below speed limits (when safety is required), then no passenger car should be capable of speeds exceeding a state determined maximum. I submit 60 mph, or the metric equivalent. Chevy or Bentley, Ford or Ferrari, max speed 60.

60 mph seems like a random pick. Why not 50 mph maximum? That would save more lives than 60.

Why not 40? Even more lives saved.

Etc.

[gorillarick]

I would venture to guess that impatient drivers cause more accidents than anyone.
Like in tailgating because you are unhappy to the point of hate and madness.

I got hit by a tailgater. My only fault was that I stopped at a yield sign because I saw a driver coming 70mph on a 35mph road.
Person in my backseat was taken by ambulance.
Other car had nose smashed - taken by wrecker.
My car was relatively OK. Continued on.

You move to a retirement community, yet you still drive like you're in suburban dystopia, AND expect everyone else to drive that way.
My neighbor is mid-80's, a widow. She told me she's scared to death but feels she is still capable of going to the grocery store and docs. Good for her. You tell her she shouldn't be driving, and wait - someone might tell you - if you make it.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Danube

60 mph seems like a random pick. Why not 50 mph maximum? That would save more lives than 60.

Why not 40? Even more lives saved.

Etc.

60 was absolutely a random choice. Or, we could go metric and say 100 kph. Sounds way more impressive.