[cwmmfink]

No offense, but the Village Glossator hit the nail on the head!

[La lamy]

Originally Posted by TheVillageGlossator

The notion of a pickleball ego is rather absurd. Even the world’s best pickleball player ought to feel a certain embarrassment about being the world’s best pickleball player.

You obviously have never played pickleball. There's nothing embarrassing about the game, whether you're a beginner or professional making millions from it. It's as physical as you make it, as strategic as you make it, as mentally challenging as you make it (especially when you learn how to keep score), and a great way to be social.

[RoboVil]

Originally Posted by Altavia

For open play, try to line up with 3 other players who are at a similar level.

The PCVG offers a series of instructional sessions with mentors and players at similar levels.

Instruction | Pickleball Community Volunteer Group

Drill & Play now offers 2.5 non-rated sessions to help get players started.

Drill & Play | Pickleball Community Volunteer Group

PCVG players are the primary problem. The good players show up an hour before their games are supposed to start and displace open play rec players in line and dominate the game. Why does an outside corporation, which PCVG is, allowed to take over so many courts in The Villages from residents who pay for the upkeep of those courts? Plus, PCVG makes money off the Villagers and support from healthcare organizations using The Villagers' assets. What a deal!

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by JSmith216

Beginning pickleball players invariably find 3.0-4.0 players on the courts designated for beginning open play! This trend has to be frustrating for beginner players. It’s a sad commentary that some players need to feed their egos by playing during designated beginner open play. They apparently don’t like the competition in their skill level.

This seems to be intimidation more than ego. The advanced players are counting on beginners' silence and courtesy to allow them to play. Years ago, when many of us were beginners, we would stop the advanced players cold. After our play, each of us would shout out to the line, "This time slot is reserved for beginner play. Who next in line is a beginner?" Each time, we would hand the court ONLY to a beginner. The advanced players got the message and left. We never went inside the rec center to complain. We knew our absence would give the advanced players what they wanted. More time to play on the courts.

[Teed_Off]

Originally Posted by cwmmfink

No offense, but the Village Glossator hit the nail on the head!

Some egos here have run amok.

[seecapecod]

Originally Posted by CFrance

They just don't want to get off the court, and of course there's nobody there to enforce the rules. A friend of mine went into the rec center, complained, and when she was told they "would send someone out," she said she would wait right there for the person.

We took lessons this summer in MA ($25/hr) on Town courts which have at least 2 courts dedicated for lessons. Anytime there were players occupying either of these two courts, the instructor asked them to move to another court and reminded them they were dedicated for lessons only.

[Laker14]

[QUOTE=TheVillageGlossator;2546504]The notion of a pickleball ego is rather absurd. Even the world’s best pickleball player ought to feel a certain embarrassment about being the world’s best pickleball player.[/QUOTE

No doubt. I'm sure Anna Leigh Waters is supremely embarrassed about having a net worth estimated to be between 3 and 5 Million Dollars, and a yearly income now confirmed greater than 2 Million, at the ripe old age of 19 years. I'd love to be that embarrassed.

Similarly, I'm sure Ben Johns feels acute embarrassment over the 3-5 million he's earning annually.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by JSmith216

Beginning pickleball players invariably find 3.0-4.0 players on the courts designated for beginning open play! This trend has to be frustrating for beginner players. It’s a sad commentary that some players need to feed their egos by playing during designated beginner open play. They apparently don’t like the competition in their skill level.

When playing PB, nobody is wearing a pin designating their rating. So when you are getting beat, or you are beating someone, unless you know them well, you probably don't really have a clue what their rating is, or if they even have an official rating.

How would someone from inside the rec center enforce something like this? I've seen both sides of this. I've seen guys who probably should be playing at a higher level designation absolutely ripping hard drives at people, usually women, who obviously haven't played enough ball sports to know how to protect their faces from fast balls at the head. I have had words with several of these guys about it. I have taken my wife by the hand and said, "honey, this guy is an ass, and we are not going to play with him anymore" and I have seen guys like this basically ostracized from the beginner court because nobody would play with him.
That's the only way to deal with it that I can see.

I have also been on more advanced courts during advanced designated play and had people on the court who don't belong there because they can't compete at that level. They say "I want to get better so I have to play better competition", but they don't acknowledge that their lack of ability to keep the point going brings down the level of play for everyone. With very few exceptions, I have seen the better players shrug, play the game, get it over with, and try not to get stuck on the court with that person again. Unfortunately I have also seen jerks get nasty about it. However, there is just no way anyone from the rec center can come out and single out a player and send them away. The player either gets the message, and takes it to heart, or doesn't.

And remember, it's just pickleball. It's a game. It's a great game, which I can no longer play because of injuries, but's still JUST A GAME.

[kingofbeer]

[QUOTE=Laker14;2546576]

Originally Posted by TheVillageGlossator

The notion of a pickleball ego is rather absurd. Even the world’s best pickleball player ought to feel a certain embarrassment about being the world’s best pickleball player.[/QUOTE

No doubt. I'm sure Anna Leigh Waters is supremely embarrassed about having a net worth estimated to be between 3 and 5 Million Dollars, and a yearly income now confirmed greater than 2 Million, at the ripe old age of 19 years. I'd love to be that embarrassed.

Similarly, I'm sure Ben Johns feels acute embarrassment over the 3-5 million he's earning annually.

Pickleball is a silly sport. The ball does not bounce much, so you have to bend down to your ankles to hit the ball back. So many injuries can and will happen when you play this game. Especially harmful for the seniors here. I have watched the level of play at the local courts here and it is poor. I know many of these players play every day. Not sure what their level is 2 or 3. Where I used to live, they had a semi-pro tournament and you could see how the game is played at the highest level and it is completely different. These players glide on the court when they move. It almost looks like tennis is being played. Here the seniors struggle to get to the kitchen. I won't waste my time playing this silly little game risking getting hurt badly.

[npwalters]

[QUOTE=kingofbeer;2546581]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Pickleball is a silly sport. The ball does not bounce much, so you have to bend down to your ankles to hit the ball back. So many injuries can and will happen when you play this game. Especially harmful for the seniors here. I have watched the level of play at the local courts here and it is poor. I know many of these players play every day. Not sure what their level is 2 or 3. Where I used to live, they had an semi-pro tournament and you could see how the game is played at the highest level and it is completely different. These players glide on the court when they move. It almost looks like tennis is being played. Here the seniors struggle to get to the kitchen. I won't waste my time playing this silly little game risking getting hurt badly.

A firm opinion spoken by someone who knows almost nothing about the game.

[Battlebasset]

I played for awhile and enjoyed it, but my wife didn't. I know more people that like to play golf, so that is where I decided to spend my time.

Yes, there do seem to be some people here that as soon as they retired, they reverted to their 8th grade bullying ways. I guess some never really leave junior high.

[kingofbeer]

[QUOTE=npwalters;2546582]

Originally Posted by kingofbeer

A firm opinion spoken by someone who knows almost nothing about the game.

Another bruised ego response

[Howdy]

Originally Posted by TheVillageGlossator

The notion of a pickleball ego is rather absurd. Even the world’s best pickleball player ought to feel a certain embarrassment about being the world’s best pickleball player.

Obviously you were not here or aware of the Lake Miona Pickleball Players " Attitude " actually not really that long ago.
A person (Player) who quite innocently showed up at were given in no uncertain terms that they were Not Wanted or Had No Right Being There in the 1st Place. In two words it was " Terrible & for some Humiliating ".

They also had a hand in what was then the Old Villages Pickleball Club that they had a rule you Needed to be get this " Sponsored " before you qualified to join the Club. Yes indeed honestly not that long ago that this went on @ Lake Miona.

As for the word " EGO " those involved were the Epitome of the word. They honestly gave The Villages a terrible reputation, unfortunately it has carried on in some areas.

[nhkim]

Originally Posted by TheVillageGlossator

The notion of a pickleball ego is rather absurd. Even the world’s best pickleball player ought to feel a certain embarrassment about being the world’s best pickleball player.

Says the couch potato who has never played pickleball...

[nhkim]

[QUOTE=kingofbeer;2546581]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Pickleball is a silly sport. The ball does not bounce much, so you have to bend down to your ankles to hit the ball back. So many injuries can and will happen when you play this game. Especially harmful for the seniors here. I have watched the level of play at the local courts here and it is poor. I know many of these players play every day. Not sure what their level is 2 or 3. Where I used to live, they had a semi-pro tournament and you could see how the game is played at the highest level and it is completely different. These players glide on the court when they move. It almost looks like tennis is being played. Here the seniors struggle to get to the kitchen. I won't waste my time playing this silly little game risking getting hurt badly.

Oh, my. Someone is clearly not enjoying their retirement in The Villages.