[rsmurano]

Why would somebody admit this or actually want to do this:
“The reality is there is nothing more satisfying than going back to a beginner open Play, playing against those guys, and beating them soundly. The first time you reset one of their drives into the kitchen, or drop a third shot drop at their feet that they put into the net, it's a great feeling. The only other thing you can do is call them out or avoid them. It's much more fun to get good enough to beat them”??
I’ve seen this before where some $&/$$ goes out and tries to crush a beginner, and this type of guy isn’t really that good himself. When you get good, the last thing you want to do is go out and beat up a beginner: it’s dangerous and the beginner could get hurt and/or the beginner could be afraid to go back out on the court, even among other players at there level.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by RoboVil

From the PCVG website: "The PCVG was organized as a not-for-profit corporation in the State of Florida in 2022." PCVG is an outside corporation, not a club. Their mission says they support villagers' pickleball, but what I see is they take over way too many courts, and seem to collect money from Villagers and health entities. At rec centers where there are 3 pods (18 courts) they will take over all 18 courts and often don't even have enough recruits to fill all the courts.

Calendar | Pickleball Community Volunteer Group

There are over 270 Pickleball courts in the Villages available sunrise to sunset.

PCVG reserves 33 2hr sessions per week:

Day Activities listed

Monday - 3
Tuesday - 5
Wednesday - 9
Thursday - 6
Friday - 5
Saturday -2
Sunday - 3
Total - 33

PCVG used about 2% of the available court time across The Villages for the 33 sessions listed November 9–15, assuming each session used an average of six courts.

* PCVG court time: 33 sessions × 2 hours × 6 courts = 396 court-hours
* Total daylight court time: 250 courts × about 11 hours per day × 7 days = 19,250 court-hours
* Estimated share: 396 ÷ 19,250 = 2.1%

[Laker14]

Something wacky is going on with this thread. Things I never posted are being attributed to me. I never said it was a silly sport, and I didn't not write the post about the professional hot dog eater. Yet, both show me as the quoted poster. I don't see anywhere to contact the moderator to correct this. Am I missing something ?

[Laker14]

Moving away from the insulting troll posts, I do want to say something about tennis players playing pickleball. There are two types. The ones who think that because they play tennis, and tennis is more difficult to get good at than PB, this person assumes they will wipe out the inferior PB players with their tennis skills. They try to make PB a game of "small tennis", and they don't get past lower intermediate. A decent intermediate player will pick them apart in short order.

The second type of tennis player has the skills from tennis that when properly applied, will make them really good. They can judge spin, flight, bounce and they are used to hitting a ball away from them (they need to adjust to the racket length but this is quick) and they know how to effortlessly develop power. Learning PB involves learning when NOT to hit it hard, learning new angles, and learning how to use the kitchen (aka "non volley zone") to disarm the power hitters. Advanced leagues are full of good tennis players who are now playing PB.


Regarding injuries: it's a tough sport. First of all, here in TV, we are older, and unfortunately the game is played on concrete. Not a great combination. One important way that PB differs from tennis is that you often don't have enough time to engage good kinetic chain motion to hit the ball. Distances are short, ball come quick, and you make a lot of quick "herky-jerky" motions. This leads to wrist, elbow and shoulder strain. I have had terrible bouts of tennis elbow, and shoulder pain, which eventually caused me to just quit the game.
Also, lots of quick starts and stops. I ruptured my achilles, pulled hamstrings more times than I could count, and developed plantar fasciitis.
I got my ranking up to 4.5, was playing in an appropriate league, but at 72 years, I couldn't play with sufficient intensity to compete at that level safely.

I probably could drop back down and play a more subdued game and be safer, but I'd still be "dancing on concrete"...and when I tried it I was fine until faced with the decision to lose or "ramp it up a notch", and being an egotistical idiot, I found myself doing the stupid thing. So I don't play anymore.

But it's a great game if you can stay in one piece, and be smart about it. It's a great game but it's just a game.

Carry on, have fun!

[TheVillageGlossator]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Something wacky is going on with this thread. Things I never posted are being attributed to me. I never said it was a silly sport, and I didn't not write the post about the professional hot dog eater. Yet, both show me as the quoted poster. I don't see anywhere to contact the moderator to correct this. Am I missing something ?

Kingofbeer commented that pickleball was silly. He removed a quote bracket which inadvertently assigned his quote to you.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by TheVillageGlossator

Kingofbeer commented that pickleball was silly. He removed a quote bracket which inadvertently assigned his quote to you.

Yeah. I knew how it happened. I was hoping to make it unhappen.

[Methos]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

Why would somebody admit this or actually want to do this:
“The reality is there is nothing more satisfying than going back to a beginner open Play, playing against those guys, and beating them soundly. The first time you reset one of their drives into the kitchen, or drop a third shot drop at their feet that they put into the net, it's a great feeling. The only other thing you can do is call them out or avoid them. It's much more fun to get good enough to beat them”??
I’ve seen this before where some $&/$$ goes out and tries to crush a beginner, and this type of guy isn’t really that good himself. When you get good, the last thing you want to do is go out and beat up a beginner: it’s dangerous and the beginner could get hurt and/or the beginner could be afraid to go back out on the court, even among other players at there level.

I think he was saying when he replays the more advanced players during open, and beating them. Not beating up on new players.

While I enjoy playing with those who are a bit better than me (better challenge and workout), I always adjust my game when playing against someone who is significantly less advanced. It gives me an opportunity to work on my short game.

I love the sport. It literally can be played by anyone, any size and shape. Many many times I've judged a book by it's cover, and was humiliated by my score.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Altavia

Calendar | Pickleball Community Volunteer Group

There are over 270 Pickleball courts in the Villages available sunrise to sunset.

PCVG reserves 33 2hr sessions per week:

Day Activities listed

Monday - 3
Tuesday - 5
Wednesday - 9
Thursday - 6
Friday - 5
Saturday -2
Sunday - 3
Total - 33

PCVG used about 2% of the available court time across The Villages for the 33 sessions listed November 9–15, assuming each session used an average of six courts.

* PCVG court time: 33 sessions × 2 hours × 6 courts = 396 court-hours
* Total daylight court time: 250 courts × about 11 hours per day × 7 days = 19,250 court-hours
* Estimated share: 396 ÷ 19,250 = 2.1%

So.

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

Why would somebody admit this or actually want to do this:
“The reality is there is nothing more satisfying than going back to a beginner open Play, playing against those guys, and beating them soundly. The first time you reset one of their drives into the kitchen, or drop a third shot drop at their feet that they put into the net, it's a great feeling. The only other thing you can do is call them out or avoid them. It's much more fun to get good enough to beat them”??
I’ve seen this before where some $&/$$ goes out and tries to crush a beginner, and this type of guy isn’t really that good himself. When you get good, the last thing you want to do is go out and beat up a beginner: it’s dangerous and the beginner could get hurt and/or the beginner could be afraid to go back out on the court, even among other players at there level.

Seriously? So you work hard, then go back and try out your new skills on guys that should not even be in the level they are playing at - the point is they are NOT beginners. Satisfying to do once, not on a regular basis anyway. I prefer playing at my level with others who are too. Its much more fun. Amazing how you can write 6 or 7 paragraphs, and that is someones takeaway? some people are just looking for something negative to point out.

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by RoboVil

From the PCVG website: "The PCVG was organized as a not-for-profit corporation in the State of Florida in 2022." PCVG is an outside corporation, not a club. Their mission says they support villagers' pickleball, but what I see is they take over way too many courts, and seem to collect money from Villagers and health entities. At rec centers where there are 3 pods (18 courts) they will take over all 18 courts and often don't even have enough recruits to fill all the courts.

The PCVG (Pickleball Community Volunteer Group) is a “lifestyle group” that was formed in year 2008. The PCVG operates as a non-profit organization with an elected volunteer Board of Directors, Activity Directors, and Activity Leaders.

Mission Statement
The Pickleball Community of The Villages (PCVG) is committed to supporting a welcoming pickleball environment for residents of The Villages, Florida. As a not‑for‑profit organization, all PCVG programs and activities are organized, led, and overseen by volunteers who support the growth and accessibility of the sport.

PCVG activities are designed to encourage participation and help players of all skill levels learn, improve, and enjoy the game.

PCVG’s mission is to strengthen the pickleball community by offering high‑quality instruction, meaningful opportunities for play and competition, and a supportive volunteer‑driven structure that encourages connection, improvement, and lifelong enjoyment of the sport.

All PCVG activities are created and supported by our coordination and cooperation with The Villages Recreation & Parks
Department.

This is right from thier website. I have been involved in a LOT of free instruction, drilling, and tournaments and have spent almost nothing. I think I paid $20 for mens cup but we got a free lunch. As far as using the courts, we are all residents and the courts are almost always full, in fact some stuff is hard to get signed up for because so many are participating.
If I was anywhere else, I would be paying hundreds of dollars a month for what the volunteers of this group give out for free.
Seriously, you are just wrong.

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by Methos

I think he was saying when he replays the more advanced players during open, and beating them. Not beating up on new players.

While I enjoy playing with those who are a bit better than me (better challenge and workout), I always adjust my game when playing against someone who is significantly less advanced. It gives me an opportunity to work on my short game.

I love the sport. It literally can be played by anyone, any size and shape. Many many times I've judged a book by it's cover, and was humiliated by my score.

Methos, you are absolutely correct. Nice to have people like you on this forum. You are right about what I meant and most definitely about judging a book by its cover. Placement beats power every single time.....

[DeeCee Dubya]

Originally Posted by TheVillageGlossator

The notion of a pickleball ego is rather absurd. Even the world’s best pickleball player ought to feel a certain embarrassment about being the world’s best pickleball player.

Excellent, full marks and five stars