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Tiquer505 03-08-2015 05:30 AM

Insulting signs at fish hawk
 
There are 2 demeaning, sexually suggestive signs in the billiards room at Fish Hawk that should be removed. Requests to the Rec Dept. to this end have been made, accompanied by petition sheets with Villagers' signatures, but to no avail. The signs are "girlie posters" akin to those of a less politically correct era and use fishing terms to suggest a woman's "bush" and keeping a man's "rod" up.

Fish Hawk has a family pool and many young people AND women use the billiards room. These signs suggest that such a disrespectful and crass attitude is okay. It is not what anyone expects or should experience in The Villages.

Check out the signs and express your opinion to the Recreation Dept., the front desk, Fish Hawk's Manager or anywhere you think someone might take positive action. The signs are just in bad taste.

DonH57 03-08-2015 10:23 AM

Are you serious? I'll check it out.

TrudyM 03-08-2015 10:43 AM

An item for the survey?

Bonny 03-08-2015 10:55 AM

I have no problem with the pictures ! Can't imagine complaining about 2 pictures in a rec center and getting a petition.

Chi-Town 03-08-2015 10:57 AM

I'm picturing the billiards rooms of my past. Thanks for the memories.

TheVillageChicken 03-08-2015 11:01 AM

I am definitely putting this on my list of things to be pi55ed off about. It slid in nicely at number 135 just behind wearing white shoes after Labor Day, but ahead of my annoyance of the contraction for "will not" being "won't" instead of "willn't".

Mleeja 03-08-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 1025260)
An item for the survey?

This PC stuff is a slippery slope. The poster may be offensive, to the OP, but not to others. I would think some review committee approved the art work in the Rec Centers. Who is going to be the morals police?

I have not seen the poster, but will check it out before I start passing judgement.

graciegirl 03-08-2015 11:08 AM

Would someone go to Fishhawk and take a picture of these plaques? I can't imagine that Tracy Matthews would have approved anything in poor taste.

Mleeja 03-08-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1025266)
I have no problem with the pictures ! You said you are only going to rent here to see if you like the Villages and the first thing to complain about is 2 pictures in a rec center and getting a petition ?

My guess is she will not like TV. Those offensive posters and the replies received to her post. This just might not be the place for them!

Bye :wave:

rubicon 03-08-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1025266)
I have no problem with the pictures ! You said you are only going to rent here to see if you like the Villages and the first thing to complain about is 2 pictures in a rec center and getting a petition ?

How the heck did you know the OP was renting here? I wonder what the OP wold do if they were ethnic jokes or blonde jokes

Bonny 03-08-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1025284)
How the heck did you know the OP was renting here? I wonder what the OP wold do if they were ethnic jokes or blonde jokes

I really apologize for that. I read another post and got the names mixed up. I usually try to be so careful to make sure what I'm posting.
A big apology to Tiquer505

graciegirl 03-08-2015 11:26 AM

Tiguer, Are they retro pinups ? I get the feeling that Tracy Matthews was going for an old fashioned fish camp feel from the forties. The Billiard room looks like it has two second world war pinup pictures on one wall. Like Killroy was here...of that genre.


http://tours.justsnooping.com/2630619/?b=false

manaboutown 03-08-2015 11:48 AM

Bring on the PC police! I have yet to observe anything anywhere of prurient interest in The Villages.

And yes, I have spent some time in the billiards room at Fish Hawk and noticed nothing unusual or extraordinary about it. The center has an old fashioned masculine fish camp theme. Each center has a theme or "feel". Perhaps the OP might be happier spending her time in more feminine surroundings.

plrbr1120 03-08-2015 12:08 PM

IF it bothers you, stay away from there. Simple as that !!

Tiquer505 03-08-2015 12:10 PM

The pictures aren't the issue. It's the language. "We'll take you deep into the Bush" and "We'll teach you to keep your Rod up"...combine with the pinup posters. I can hear the man cave snickering from here.

Tiquer505 03-08-2015 12:11 PM

They are reproduction pin-up signs. It's not the art that is in question--it's what the signs SAY that is objectionable. Read them and decide for yourself.

graciegirl 03-08-2015 12:13 PM

Is this it?
 
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karostay 03-08-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1025320)

Where can I place my order for 2 :pray:

Tiquer505 03-08-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by plrbr1120 (Post 1025316)
IF it bothers you, stay away from there. Simple as that !!

So if it bothers someone that his child is called negative names at school he should just keep the child out of school? Or if there is a racist sign in a public place we should all stay away from that public place? And if a teenager thinks those signs at Fish Hawk are acceptable thinking--how does that help form his personality and further society's attempts at treating people well and with respect?

golf2140 03-08-2015 12:20 PM

Oh no, let's start a petition drive to change designers of rec centers.

Tiquer505 03-08-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1025320)

That's one of them. The other one shows another pin up girl and says "We'll take you DEEP INTO THE BUSH."

manaboutown 03-08-2015 12:21 PM

Does the OP object to Cosmo covers, too? Cosmopolitan Cover Gallery - Cosmo's Past Cover Girls

This one shows a babe with a lot of cleavage and an article entitled "Innocent Mistakes that Blow a Job Interview".

If so she should stay away from magazine display racks.

Chi-Town 03-08-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1025320)

Where do I sign up?

graciegirl 03-08-2015 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiquer505 (Post 1025329)
That's one of them. The other one shows another pin up girl and says "We'll take you DEEP INTO THE BUSH."


Is this it?

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Mleeja 03-08-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiquer505 (Post 1025327)
So if it bothers someone that his child is called negative names at school he should just keep the child out of school? Or if there is a racist sign in a public place we should all stay away from that public place? And if a teenager thinks those signs at Fish Hawk are acceptable thinking--how does that help form his personality and further society's attempts at treating people well and with respect?

This sign is a Long way from bullying and it is not racist. Let's not try to make this comparison.

How much time have you spent with todays teenagers. My grandson/granddaughter would laugh at something like this. They see and hear much worse at school, social activities, etc.

Go ahead and start your petition. Based on the comments so far, you'll not have many takers.

Grandfinch 03-08-2015 12:41 PM

I'm so old, I don't get it. Are they supposed to be sexually inappropriate to or just to old fashioned?

Walt. 03-08-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiquer505 (Post 1025327)
So if it bothers someone that his child is called negative names at school he should just keep the child out of school? Or if there is a racist sign in a public place we should all stay away from that public place? And if a teenager thinks those signs at Fish Hawk are acceptable thinking--how does that help form his personality and further society's attempts at treating people well and with respect?

Yeah, what if some teenagers turn off their music (Sinatra perhaps?), stop texting, get off the computer and wander into the Fish Hawk center? They will probably turn into stark raving sex maniacs.

kstew43 03-08-2015 12:50 PM

just adds to the sexual interest the Villages seems to promote/portray......good or bad, I'm a prude....I say off with there heads......

ureout 03-08-2015 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1025335)

i agree with the OP i worked in a factory for 30 years and what we were able to do and say back in the 70's and 80's all changed ......the pictures themselves seem ok but the wording does have a sexual meaning....I wouldnt want my granddaughter who is 10 asking me.....Papa what does that mean....i would expect to see pics like this in a redneck gas station

graciegirl 03-08-2015 12:58 PM

My kids AND grandkids are used to honest and direct answers from me. We saw our two grandchildren every day of their lives until they left for college.

But I am a grandmother, not a papa. Sweetie wouldn't tell them where babies come from any sooner than he would fly. He may not KNOW.

IF MY ten year old would ask...what does that mean. I would say, When you are fly fishing you have to watch and keep your arm up and your rod up so your hook doesn't catch something or somebody.

And on the other one... I would say that in certain areas of the world bush is the heavy dense thick vegetation areas.


The plaques are funny because they has two meanings.

If they were older I would explain...the other meaning.

I can think of so many worse things I don't want them to see.

ureout 03-08-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1025351)
My kids AND grandkids are used to honest and direct answers from me. We saw our two grandchildren every day of their lives until they left for college.

But I am a grandmother, not a papa. Sweetie wouldn't tell them where babies come from any sooner than he would fly. He may not KNOW.

Gracie, I agree with you about informing our kids.....but things have changed as to what is politically correct.....I cant imagine anyone one in a business atmosphere with women employees having these pics hanging in their business......I would bet John Rohan wouldn't hang them in his office....for fear of a female employee complaining.....these pics are not what i would expect to see in a rec center in TV

Warren Kiefer 03-08-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1025266)
I have no problem with the pictures ! Can't imagine complaining about 2 pictures in a rec center and getting a petition.

Have you seen the pictures or are you offering a comment without any knowledge.

Taltarzac725 03-08-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1025320)

I like these. 1940s double entendres.

Bonny 03-08-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1025357)
Have you seen the pictures or are you offering a comment without any knowledge.

Yes I have seen the pictures.

ureout 03-08-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1025361)
I like these. 1940s double entendres.

I agree with you I actually do like the signs....and if I had a pool room in my home I would like to have them

Warren Kiefer 03-08-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiquer505 (Post 1025327)
So if it bothers someone that his child is called negative names at school he should just keep the child out of school? Or if there is a racist sign in a public place we should all stay away from that public place? And if a teenager thinks those signs at Fish Hawk are acceptable thinking--how does that help form his personality and further society's attempts at treating people well and with respect?

I will give you one guess what kind of people come up with dumb answers. You are perfectly right and no one should have to avoid any rec center that has displayed objectionable material.

Bonny 03-08-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1025357)
Have you seen the pictures or are you offering a comment without any knowledge.

And even I hadn't, I still can't imagine taking a petition around the Villages to get them taken down. At the end of the day, this is an adult community.

Warren Kiefer 03-08-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiquer505 (Post 1025329)
That's one of them. The other one shows another pin up girl and says "We'll take you DEEP INTO THE BUSH."

The nasty message is pretty clear to me.

DougB 03-08-2015 01:22 PM

Much ado about nothing.

Warren Kiefer 03-08-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1025341)
This sign is a Long way from bullying and it is not racist. Let's not try to make this comparison.

How much time have you spent with todays teenagers. My grandson/granddaughter would laugh at something like this. They see and hear much worse at school, social activities, etc.

Go ahead and start your petition. Based on the comments so far, you'll not have many takers.

Do your grandchildren live in the Villages? I would not be pleased to know that my grandchildren found humor in nasty sublime posters. Also it is an absolute that at some point the ownership of this rec center will become the property of the residents. I will offer to be the first to sign your petition.


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