Kraft arrested
 

NE Pats owner Robert Kraft arrested in Jupiter Fla in prostitution sting. Asian massage "spa" that had been shut down recently for 7 months for trafficking women in from China.

Kraft saying he didn't do it.

More: Daily Mail UK saying Cops have video.

PLEASE folks. For anyone that may download or screengrab a portion of Kraft "having relations"... be courteous and kind to your fellow TVrs. I, for one, would never be able to erase a image as that from my mind when tailing off to zzzzland.

So please keep it to yourself and not subject anyone else to images as that. I mean watching that Super Bowl was enough torture (I'm a Pat's fan). Don't compound it with more horrifying images of an old person trying to play in a young person's game...:22yikes::22yikes:

I wouldn't care with consenting adults but these girls are not treated well.

Sheriff: Had no days off. 1,500 men a year. Hygiene "marginal at best."

That ain't nice.

Oh, and Shefter ESPN is saying Kraft isn't the biggest name in the sting.

Ooh, ick. Aside from the human trafficking issue.

You would think with his kind of money he could be a little more discrete..

I agree 100%. One of our good local ladies speculated that was part of the thrill maybe.

Not a very Krafty decision.

One of the other gents picked up was 85!!! Jeez. Give it a rest, bro.
If I were him I would just pretend I didn't know where I was. What, you mean this isn't the library? Damn bifocals!

Kraft
 

Wonder what the NFL will do with him?

Isn't Anthony Weiner out of prison now? He might be on the list although maybe he has had to remain in a halfway house in NY.

Yup, good call. He ordered food from the halfway house the other day and left a bad tip. I find Huma to be very attractive for some reason.

I bet his wife is just "thrilled" with this news. She has to take his arm and hold her head up high the next time they go to some gala. What an arse!

His wife of 48 years died 8 years ago and he has been coming undone since then. Sad and pathetic she must be rolling in her grave.

They should legalize prostitution and tax the **** out of it. I remember Joe Conforte and his girls having their own float in various parades in Reno, Nevada. It is legal only in some counties in Nevada. Not those that house Reno nor Las Vegas.

I thought he had remarried. Now I feel bad for him.

This somehow brings to mind the deflated balls scandal the Patriots suffered.

why would you feel sorry him. He is no better than the person who held those girls captive.

Did the lady take a knee?

Since this happened in Florida I wonder if Tiger is one of the bigger names. He's known to have gone down that path a time or two..

I feel most sorry for the girls who are controlled. This is something you can hate all you want but it won't go away, isn't it called the Worlds Oldest Profession?

I feel Sorry For Mr. Kraft. I am not a fan of his team but as a person I always liked him.

After the recent developments on other issues in the news wouldn't it be proper to see how this really plays out instead of pronouncing him guilty because we heard it on

the TV or Radio?

If God Forbid I ever had the personal problem of losing my wife I have no idea of how I would cope. Each person is different. If by chance he is guilty I hope he uses

his stature to help any person that all that money he has can help. I don't think as smart as he is that he thought this all the way through. Time will tell the real story in

ALL the cases that are pending not just this one.

ANYONE who is guilty should be held to the letter of the law like you and I would be.

Money gets the best lawyers and unfortunately given the current state of our legal system that still makes a HUGE difference in some trial outcomes. Can depend though a lot on the judge and the jury. If there even is one as many cases are plea bargained.

I wonder if he used his one call to call Morgan & Morgan? I'm just kidding Tal, I agree with you.

Can you imagine playing Let's Make A Deal when you own a Football Team?

Let's give it time and see what's up! :popcorn:

ANYONE is correct.

Full story needed is correct.

A few things I have not seen mentioned. Kraft has a girlfriend, a 39 year old model, and is an associate of Jeffrey Epstein and others. Being an "associate" means little in the rich confines of south Florida, but hearing some extend sympathies to him makes me cringe.

Unfortunately this is going on all over the country. Massage Parlor Busts Leads To Sex Slave Investigation

I am wondering if he is suffering from dementia

After what just happened with the Jussie Smollett thing, you would think "Allegedly" would be used in all reported crimes until a Judge and Jury reach a final verdict. On the other hand, if there really is authentic and clear video of Kraft committing what he "Allegedly" is reported to have done, videos don't lie.

Two completely different things.

One is a private citizen filing a false police report

The other is getting caught by police on video as part of a state wide crackdown on these operations.

Both are private citizens that the media claimed as guilty, not "Allegedly" guilty, before all the facts have been disclosed. As I stated, if there really is authentic and clear video of what Kraft "Allegedly" did, then he is guilty and the omission of the term "Allegedly" is warranted. Have you seen the video, and if so, is it clear and does it undeniably identify Kraft doing something illegal?

The filing of a false police report in the Smollett case is a felony.

AS IT SHOULD BE WITH SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES.

I was referring to the "allegation" aspect and the giving of sympathies.

This "crime" if he was a citizen if this county would only get him a letter in the mail and a fine.

He made a choice, and allegedly made that choice more than once. How do you choose people to get sympathy ?

If not for his reputation, nobody would even know.

Anyone who reads anything knows these oriental massage parlors are all the same, thus the crackdown by police state wide

The fact of the matter is, that if there weren't so many willing to pay for transactional sex...it wouldn't exist.

Some say legalizing it would solve most of the problems...others have a different view.

Here is a good Pro/Con look...at legalizing prostitution.

Legalizing Prostitution (click here)


Probably the most surprising thing to me regarding the allegations against Kraft, is him going to a strip-mall spa in the first place.

Particularly since he doesn't seem to know (care?)...how these women/girls are procured and/or abused?

I mean really, with his money he couldn't figure out a way to satisfy his urges, with willing adult women...at a less public location? :oops:

Even though I'm a Patriots fan and admire what he's done in football, in this situation (if proven true)...I have absolutely no empathy/sympathy for him.

Thanks for clarifying my comments...my entire thrust was how can you sympathize with a very rich man, with a much younger girl friend, visiting a strip mall to get a "massage". "ALLEGEDLY"

Stories of how these women are conned when brought to this country are many and terrible.

That is gross. And they pay for that????

No one was convicted of anything. Sex trafficking is still an allegation.

Everyone posting on here with pre drawn conclusions is now disqualified from the jury pool if there even is a trial. Hard to get a jury now that is not tainted by the news reports. Let’s just assume all the men are guilty and all the women are victims. What has this world come to ?

I am sure you know by now there is NO jury trial. He will be fined and that is it.

Only big story because of who he is.

Add to the list....former CEO of Citigroup, and the president of a Boys and Girls Club, and three law enforcement officials.

Seems the well planned crackdown is working.

Oh, and the world is just fine......most problems are from folks who take no time to find out what is real or made up

My personal frustration is that posters on here, and others make no effort to search for what is true and factual and are led by other things.

To be clear, Kraft and attys are proclaiming innocence to the main thrust of the investigation......trafficking.......he and others just were caught up in the investigations...and police should be cheered on in their work rather than defending those caught up in a web becaue they were doing something that should not have been doing and were in a place where they should not have been


"NFL owner Robert Kraft isn’t the only prominent name snagged in a Florida prostitution bust.

The sweeping sex sting also nabbed a former Citigroup president and a president of a Florida Boys and Girls Club, according to reports.

At the same time, WPEC-TV reported Friday that the probe also nabbed three former law enforcement officers in Indian River County.

Kraft, the billionaire owner of the New England Patriots, is facing charges of soliciting a prostitute after he was twice videotaped in a sex act at Orchids of Asia, police said."

Ex-Citigroup president caught up in prostitution sting that ensnared Robert Kraft, report says | Fox News


"VERO BEACH — A six-month investigation revealed human traffickers were luring vulnerable girls to massage parlors in Indian River County, where they were coerced into working as prostitutes, police announced Thursday.

Ten spas from the Orlando area through the Treasure Coast into Palm Beach County were shut down Tuesday as law enforcement began making arrests.

Vero Beach Police Chief David Currey said he believes the investigation "put a heck of a dent in human trafficking and sex trade" locally.

Indian River County agencies issued warrants for 173 people, on charges ranging from human trafficking to racketeering to soliciting prostitution.


https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/cr...an/2920354002/

EXCELLENT! :thumbup:

Analogous to the problem with undocumented workers, the quickest way to put a dent into the problem...is to start throwing the book at those who hire/pay for them.

With being a 'John' only a misdemeanor though, that book...doesn't have many pages. :ohdear:

Sex trafficking is just an allegation. Could be many of those women just selling themselves for cash. No one knows. The sex trafficking prostitution is a very minor part of women prostituting themselves but a way to place the blame on men and callwomen victims. Google PORN and you will get a good dose of what women will do for money. Withoutwomen the Porn industry would hardly exist. Imagine...if people would just stop paying money for cars we could eliminate all car accidents.

This sort of situation is as old as mankind's settlements, no doubt. If you ever get to Pompeii the brothel or house of prostitution there is one of the best preserved buildings. It is easy to find as footprints carved into the stone walkway lead to it. Pompeii's Whorehouse: Erotic Murals Re-Exposed - SPIEGEL ONLINE