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Gpsma 03-22-2020 03:25 PM

Am I the only one...
 
That thinks this mass hysteria is ridiculous? People panicking over TP. People buying guns and ammo.

Im shocked at TV...at our age we have gone thru worse. So many veterans here that went thru worse.

We have no kids here to protect and feed. But the entitled worry warts have cleaned out the stores.

Wait for two years and the news will have articles on the Year the World Went Nuts

Sorry...not buying it...scientists and politicians just love to control.

retiredguy123 03-22-2020 03:31 PM

You are not the only one. I am concerned that what they are doing to distroy the economy will end up causing more deaths than the virus will. Also, there doesn't seem to be anyone who is controlling or guiding the overall situation or plan of action. Who is in charge?

mixsonci 03-22-2020 03:53 PM

I agree, mass hysteria and panic, everyone is buying into

billethkid 03-22-2020 04:11 PM

Politicians are not decision makers in the same sense that business and everyday folks.
They have too many "beholding" considerations that affect what they do/say.
Hence their decision may not have anything to with right or wrong or do that which is best.

perrjojo 03-22-2020 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731771)
That thinks this mass hysteria is ridiculous? People panicking over TP. People buying guns and ammo.

Im shocked at TV...at our age we have gone thru worse. So many veterans here that went thru worse.

We have no kids here to protect and feed. But the entitled worry warts have cleaned out the stores.

Wait for two years and the news will have articles on the Year the World Went Nuts

Sorry...not buying it...scientists and politicians just love to control.

No, you are not the only one and that is why the virus continues to spread.

Gpsma 03-22-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1731807)
No, you are not the only one and that is why the virus continues to spread.

And your medical degree came from what university? The Bill Gates School of Internet Medicine?

The internet has fueled this hysteria. Has fueled this panic.

Yes, people will be sick. Unfortinately, some will die.

But the truth will be told...politicians, the media, and social media has blown this out of proportion

Marathon Man 03-22-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731814)
And your medical degree came from what university? The Bill Gates School of Internet Medicine?

The internet has fueled this hysteria. Has fueled this panic.

Yes, people will be sick. Unfortinately, some will die.

But the truth will be told...politicians, the media, and social media has blown this out of proportion

That is opinion, not truth. This is exactly the attitude that will cause the visus to be spread. We have an opportunity to avoid what Italy is going through. However, those who refuse to participate in the effort is a real problem.

npwalters 03-22-2020 05:26 PM

No you aren't the only one.

Villageswimmer 03-22-2020 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1731807)
No, you are not the only one and that is why the virus continues to spread.

Amen. I note that some of your very vocal compadres have gone off the grid. And one doesn’t need a medical degree to see what’s happening in the world. Some, who act as experts, may have caused carelessness. Carelessness we cannot afford. Carelessness that can result in death.

People who use caution are not chicken littles as they’ve been called on this forum. Caution is not panic.

Gpsma 03-22-2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1731823)
Amen. I note that some of your very vocal compadres have gone off the grid. And one doesn’t need a medical degree to see what’s happening in the world. Some, who act as experts, may have caused carelessness. Carelessness we cannot afford. Carelessness that can result in death.

People who use caution are not chicken littles as they’ve been called on this forum. Caution is not panic.

Is Caution buying up loads of toilet paper? Is caution cleaning out the shelves of Publix and Walmart?

No, that is panic and hysteria.

Aces4 03-22-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731827)
Is Caution buying up loads of toilet paper? Is caution cleaning out the shelves of Publix and Walmart?

No, that is panic and hysteria.

In your eyes...

Critical thinking will allow most people to process the fact that restaurants are closed other than some which provide carry outs. One must realize people who seldom or occasionally eat at home are now grocery shopping, using products in their home in larger quanities. Stores were not prepared for the change in purchasing habits. Did people really expect nothing to change when The Villagers had to stay home? Perhaps the hysteria is in the failure to absorb that fact.

DON10E 03-22-2020 06:09 PM

Methinks Darwin is watching and waiting.

Gpsma 03-22-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1731833)
In your eyes...

Critical thinking will allow most people to process the fact that restaurants are closed other than some which provide carry outs. One must realize people who seldom or occasionally eat at home are now grocery shopping, using products in their home in larger quanities. Stores were not prepared for the change in purchasing habits. Did people really expect nothing to change when The Villagers had to stay home? Perhaps the hysteria is in the failure to absorb that fact.

Guess they are eating home so much that a couple in TV need 100 rolls of toilet paper?

Dont talk about “facts”....this is nothing more than speculation and hysterical fear.

No proof yet this will be worse than H1N1 or a bad flu season.

Aces4 03-22-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731837)
Guess they are eating home so much that a couple in TV need 100 rolls of toilet paper?

Dont talk about “facts”....this is nothing more than speculation and hysterical fear.

No proof yet this will be worse than H1N1 or a bad flu season.

Facts, yes, facts are difficult for some people. It should occur to the observer that a couple with one hundred rolls of toilet paper may have mental issues or are selling them online for profit. Most of us know the average persons here are not hoarding 100 rolls of TP.

Having relatives in Italy would probably help the doubting Thomases.

DianeM 03-22-2020 06:24 PM

I bet all the people who died in Italy had the same impression.

While the panic buying of toilet paper is ridiculous, 149 countries have people dying of this virus. It can’t all be hype.

Velvet 03-22-2020 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1731839)
Facts, yes, facts are difficult for some people. It should occur to the observer that a couple with one hundred rolls of toilet paper may have mental issues or are selling them online for profit. Most of us know the average persons here are not hoarding 100 rolls of TP.

Having relatives in Italy would probably help the doubting Thomases.

Or, is it possible, just possible, that people are buying too much stuff so that they don’t have to go shopping soon again? And expose themselves unnecessarily?

Perhaps it is not hysteria or panic just planning for the unknown. But when there are fights over it at the supermarket.... now that takes it to another level.

retiredguy123 03-22-2020 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1731847)
Or, is it possible, just possible, that people are buying too much stuff so that they don’t have to go shopping soon again? And expose themselves unnecessarily?

Perhaps it is not hysteria or panic just planning for the unknown. But when there are fights over it at the supermarket.... now that takes it to another level.

I agree. It is just human nature. Some people are savers and some are spenders. I always have plenty of non-perishable items like water, toilet paper, paper towels, shampoo, toothpaste, etc. But, I don't consider myself to be a hoarder, just well prepared. It's good planning.

Aces4 03-22-2020 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1731847)
Or, is it possible, just possible, that people are buying too much stuff so that they don’t have to go shopping soon again? And expose themselves unnecessarily?

Perhaps it is not hysteria or panic just planning for the unknown. But when there are fights over it at the supermarket.... now that takes it to another level.

A two week supply is recommended, over and above is hoarding if dealing with food stuffs. Are you seeing fights in the supermarkets here? Some areas of the country are prone to that type of behavior, fear exacerbates the problem.

DONS999 03-22-2020 07:54 PM

market crash
 
The Globex market opened at 6pm tonight and with 10 minutes it reached the circuit beakers and closed. At 9:30 Monday it will open again and the crash will continue.

Our politicians and media are causing a panic with a treatment that will end up being worst than the sickness

the 401s will be half of February's value and I don't have 10 years for them to come back

tophcfa 03-22-2020 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731771)
That thinks this mass hysteria is ridiculous? People panicking over TP. People buying guns and ammo.

Im shocked at TV...at our age we have gone thru worse. So many veterans here that went thru worse.

We have no kids here to protect and feed. But the entitled worry warts have cleaned out the stores.

Wait for two years and the news will have articles on the Year the World Went Nuts

Sorry...not buying it...scientists and politicians just love to control.

Well, who really knows? Many people who were claiming about three weeks ago that everyone was overreacting, are now hypricotally saying that we should have done more sooner? Go figure, only time will tell.

JudyLife 03-23-2020 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731771)
That thinks this mass hysteria is ridiculous? People panicking over TP. People buying guns and ammo.

Im shocked at TV...at our age we have gone thru worse. So many veterans here that went thru worse.

We have no kids here to protect and feed. But the entitled worry warts have cleaned out the stores.

Wait for two years and the news will have articles on the Year the World Went Nuts

Sorry...not buying it...scientists and politicians just love to control.

Ok and you think Italy, Spain are what - faking it?! You are lucky you are in an open area such as TV. But this virus will creep in there as time goes by unfortunately. No one is exempt. Not hysteria, not hype, not exaggeration. FACT.

alfredpopcorn@gmail.com 03-23-2020 05:30 AM

Just 100?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1731839)
Facts, yes, facts are difficult for some people. It should occur to the observer that a couple with one hundred rolls of toilet paper may have mental issues or are selling them online for profit. Most of us know the average persons here are not hoarding 100 rolls of TP.

Having relatives in Italy would probably help the doubting Thomases.

I think 200 roles should be standard supply

noslices1 03-23-2020 05:40 AM

The “average” person is also NOT buying 20 cases of water, or 20 bottles of hand sanitizer, or five bundles of 24 paper towels, but the ones that are, for their own use, are causing this hysteria.

Drdoug49 03-23-2020 05:43 AM

The deniers can become super spreaders, look at Italy, compare them to Korea andHong Kong who took aggressive actions. Those countries enforced social distancing while Florida left the beaches and restaurants open too long

jswirs 03-23-2020 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731771)
That thinks this mass hysteria is ridiculous? People panicking over TP. People buying guns and ammo.

Im shocked at TV...at our age we have gone thru worse. So many veterans here that went thru worse.

We have no kids here to protect and feed. But the entitled worry warts have cleaned out the stores.

Wait for two years and the news will have articles on the Year the World Went Nuts

Sorry...not buying it...scientists and politicians just love to control.

No, you are not the only one, I couldn't agree with you more. This is all hyped up by the news media. In the flu season of 2017-2018, 80,000 people in the US died from the flu. I didn't see any businesses closing, no social distancing, etc. Most people who have contracted the covid 19 virus recover from it, something like 80% recovery rate. Most folks that do not recover are, yes, elderly, BUT, they already have underlying health conditions. Seniors that are healthy are not at anymore of a risk than anyone else. The news media will not tell the true facts, they only expand on how dangerous this is, causing panic and hysteria. Anyone who is living in fear of the virus puts themselves at a greater risk, as fear and the accompanying stress weakens the immune system. My sources are from the NYT and Market Watch.

speedo8357 03-23-2020 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731771)
That thinks this mass hysteria is ridiculous? People panicking over TP. People buying guns and ammo.

Im shocked at TV...at our age we have gone thru worse. So many veterans here that went thru worse.

We have no kids here to protect and feed. But the entitled worry warts have cleaned out the stores.

Wait for two years and the news will have articles on the Year the World Went Nuts

Sorry...not buying it...scientists and politicians just love to control.

I agree. Fact: there are ~ 16K confirmed cases in US. Ten years ago there were over 60 million cases of Swine flu. Yet I have friends — contemporaries of mine age wise — that do not even remember the Swine flu pandemic! While I am heeding advice — socially distancing, extra cleanliness precautions, etc., I cannot help but feel this is a run away train fueled by the media.

MOMOH 03-23-2020 06:07 AM

When Non-Hoarders really need toilet paper
 
I'm immuno-suppressed due to a transplant, and have a-fib and a pacemaker. I live alone, and have been self-quarantining for almost two weeks because I'm afraid that if I get sick..that will be IT! I didn't hoard toilet paper, but I'm ok for now. What happens when I'm NOT ok with toilet paper? My neighbors are kindly shopping for me, and I won't want to ask them to go from store to store for this basic need. What can we do to get back to normal so that someone can walk into a store and just buy what they need?

Cubnut 03-23-2020 06:09 AM

You could not be more wrong. How could you be so oblivious to worldwide reporters and top scientists warnings. Of course people are overreacting about to etc, but if you are not. Cleaning and isolating yourself you are risking yourself and others.

coalminer 03-23-2020 06:22 AM

Nows your chance to bet your life on your opinion. Go out, mingle with other non believers, just stay the hell away from me.

wilkinson 03-23-2020 06:31 AM

We have to be careful to separate fact from opinion. It is a fact that even in TV we have the effects of media hysteria - the hording of TP and paper towels. Why that is happening is my opinion is that the media deliver the news with an emphasis and tone of voice of "we don't know how bad this will become." A fact is that the grocery shelves in TV are hard to keep up with stocking is partly due to people not buying food at restaurants so they are buying food for home. I am an efficiency consultant for companies like Proctor & Gamble and Gillette - I'd love to hear your opinion of how this panic, real or imagined, is adversely affecting the efficiency of our supply chains. Your thoughts, please?

Joanne19335 03-23-2020 06:38 AM

Breaking News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JudyLife (Post 1731921)
Ok and you think Italy, Spain are what - faking it?! You are lucky you are in an open area such as TV. But this virus will creep in there as time goes by unfortunately. No one is exempt. Not hysteria, not hype, not exaggeration. FACT.

A Villager was admitted to hospital in Leesburg with COVID-19. It has hit America’s Friendliest Hometown.” God help us all.

golfing eagles 03-23-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1731949)
A Villager was admitted to hospital in Leesburg with COVID-19. It has hit America’s Friendliest Hometown.” God help us all.

That's certainly possible, maybe even likely.

However, how do you know this????

Are you an admitting clerk at Leesburg Hospital?
Or did you violate HIPPA and hack the medical records of patients at that hospital?

Unless there is an official statement regarding this, it is merely rumor

stadry 03-23-2020 06:44 AM

anyone else see this ? evidently gates was talking in 2015/16 about a pandemic,,,
We’re Not Ready for the Next Epidemic | Bill Gates

xNYer 03-23-2020 06:44 AM

it was on the Village News website.

Fastskiguy 03-23-2020 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1731771)

Wait for two years and the news will have articles on the Year the World Went Nuts

I sure hope you're right but outbreaks worsen exponentially and we're in the early stages.

There are 5 ways this can play out

-virus "just dies out" like influenza....possible but certainly isn't happening yet
-vaccine or cure is developed.....looking at a year, maybe more
-eradication...like polio (of course, we had a vaccine in the fight v polio)
-most of the population gets over a long timeframe so as to not overwhelm our healthcare
-or....most of the population gets it all at once and we end up like Italy <-avoid this!!

It's a fact that the death rate is higher in older people and...... we're living in geezer central, right?

If only 1/2 of us in TV get it and if only 2% die that's still 5000 of us buying the farm in the next few months.

Like I said, I hope you're right and this is an overreaction but, personally, I'm taking it seriously.

dcurrie947 03-23-2020 06:54 AM

No, you are not alone
 
No, you are not alone in your thinking. The economic impact of this mess is going to be incredible. We are trying to figure out the real reason for whats going on if we will ever know.

rbrooks817 03-23-2020 06:58 AM

With the number of inflections doubling daily you obviously don't have a clue as to our current situation. Unfortunately, you are not the only one, you and too many other nonbelievers will be responsible for spreading the disease and killing us.

Buddy134 03-23-2020 07:08 AM

Stores could limit quantities on anything but for some reason (maybe $), they have not done so. Sad.

Nannyof3 03-23-2020 07:09 AM

No panic here
 
We are not panicking but we are taking this thing seriously, as we all should.
Many people thought it was all hype but just look at Seattle, NYC, Italy. This is not hype, it’s real. We don’t have to rush to the market and buy up all the bread, milk and TP in the store. We are mostly 1-2 person households, how much can we use?
Most Villagers are kind and generous its only a small percentage that put themselves first. We will never change them.
Stay safe, be careful and be kind to one another

JoelJohnson 03-23-2020 07:10 AM

How many people here in the US have to die before you believe the pandemic is real?


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