Where is our vaccine???
 

It seems we can be used by politicians to make announcements and get publicity for themselves, but when it counts, aka COVID vaccine for Sumter County, we're just "chopped liver". Where's our vaccine?

The Sumter County Board of Commissioners released the following statement on COVID-19 vaccination:

"The Sumter County Health Department has not yet established a list, line, or registry for an individual to sign up to receive the vaccine as the State of Florida has not defined the schedule and volume of distribution to Sumter County at this time.

Please watch the Sumter County Health Department website and press releases for future announcements."

Hopefully, it's being given to those who have to work and interact with the public, instead of those who have the ability to stay home and are simply just bored and feel inconvenienced.

Opinion | When Can I Get a Coronavirus Vaccine in America? - The New York Times

Not sure how accurate the NYT estimator is? I entered my age and the other related questions for Marion County and Sumter County. In Marion it tells me there are 161,000 others ahead of me. In Sumter it indicates 62,000 ahead of me. Being familiar with the demographics for Sumter I'm not so sure how accurate the estimates are.

It will take years for everyone to get the vaccine at the rate we are going.

I suspect the state does not yet have clear idea of how many doses are coming and is therefore reluctant to put a firm schedule in place. We may get impatient but let's just be remember that the healthcare folks are just as anxious as we are to roll out as many vaccinations as we are. And the state officials know we are watching them. So let's not get too bent out of shape. After all, we were told by the doomsayers months ago that there was no way we could develop a vaccine by end of year. But the President's Operation Warp Speed did just that. Kudos to all involved and the shots are coming....

From what I understand either the federal government or the state government has determined which counties have the most need for the vaccine. Strangely, Sumter and Lake are not among the first to get it. I've heard that Marion has gotten some.

I'm not sure what the criterion is for selecting those counties but I suspect that it might be the number of case and/or deaths in those counties.

Logically it might seem that The Villages would be the first place to send it because of the average age and number of health issues but I believe that the number of cases and deaths in The Villages has been relatively low when compared to other counties. That's a good thing. We must be doing something right.

Anyroad, the vaccine will get here when it gets here. We should be thankful that due to operation Warp Speed, it has been developed and approved faster than any medication in history. If not for Warp Speed we could have been waiting years for this to be developed and approved. In addition Warp Speed has made it possible for future medications to get on the market faster than ever before.

The vaccines were approved a few weeks ago. Did anyone think that it was going to be a few days or weeks before they got it? I've heard many people say that it would be sometime in the summer before it got out. My guess is that we will see it in the next month or two.

And remember, it is a two stage vaccine. I believe that the wait time between the first and second dose is three to six months. My understanding is that the first dose reduces your chances of contracting the virus by 50% and the second by 95%. So even if you get the first shot next week it will be a few months before you are 95% safe.

So be patient. Things are not going to change dramatically for quite while. It's not like 330 million doses can be made stored and shipped within weeks. You'll get you vaccine when you get it.

What we can do without is dramatic headlines like that in the online news this morning. (Desperate Villagers angry about lack of information about COVID-19 vaccine) Do we really need that kind of negativity?

The Phizer vaccine is 21 days between first and second jab.
I have not heard any longer than 28 days between jabs for other manufactured vaccines.

We need to have patience, the wait time between 1st and second shot is 3 to 4 weeks depending on which vaccine you get.

Moderna I believe is 14 days.

28 days. Google.

to all who say that Operation Warp Speed is the reason we have vaccines, I would say that's partly true. Pfizer was already working on it's vaccine and did not take any money from the federal govt. for it's development. So it would have been available. and you may remember, as late as Nov., this administration turned down offers for more doses.

as to distribution, I'll just point out the following quote: ‘I failed’: Operation Warp Speed leader takes responsibility for Covid-19 vaccine distribution confusion.

What operation warp speed did was give private companies funding to do their work.

so while Operation Warp Speed can be praised for help with development, it has fallen far short in distribution--the part the govt. is responsible for. just like with testing, it's being dumped on the states with no funding or plan. it's a free for all again.

hey, I'm not the one complaining about the Villages not getting the vaccine. I knew it would be like this because of past experiences with the govt. handling of this crisis.

I will wait until there's a good plan for distribution of the initial and follow-up shot. I have no desire to endlessly try to call a number for a neighboring county or show up somewhere hours or days ahead--because that's the great distribution plan we have now.

OK, I wasn't sure about the time between doses but I was evidently wrong.

I just read an interesting article. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices has recommended that senior citizens be moved toward the back of the line because racial and ethnic minorities are under-represented in this group. In other words, seniors are too white.

I wonder if this is why places like Orlando are getting the virus first.

Although the Advisory Committee made that recommendation, our governor, in a speech he made last week in The Villages, said that in Florida the over-65 people, our parents and grandparents, would remain in line after medical professionals and nursing home residents.

I applaud that decision. It seems to me that we need to protect the people who, if they get COVID, are more likely to use hospital care and medical resources. Younger people who get sick are much less likely to need those resources. By keeping seniors out of hospitals we reduce the death rate more and preserve the availability of hospital care.

Over here ! Over here! Me First !Me First !

The Village chant

Sumter County residents can call (352) 569-3102 starting Jan. 4 to schedule an appointment.

Before signing up, residents must review the pre-vaccination checklist link provided by The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention at: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ening-form.pdf.

Broward ran out of slots in hours. booked thru Feb. and closed down appts for now. I can just imagine what it will be like here

With 330 million people in the USA, 20 million won't go far

Vaccine is for those over the age of 16.

Already it is starting --- push, push; shove, shove; give to Me; I want; Me first!

They are making more.

Here if the Sumter County announcement about the availability and signup for the Vaccine.

COVID-19 Vaccination | Florida Department of Health in Sumter

When you tell us what the ACIP said it would be my preference that you would include a link the the recommendation. Do you have one? You are of course wrong in what you wrote. You are not getting your information from accurate truthful sources. Please consider double checking what you read before spreading falsehoods.
You can read the actual ACIP recommendations HERE

That link gives the recommendation listed by date of publication. The most recent statement as supplies began to be available and it was clear that there was not going to be enough vaccine to vaccinate 20 million by year end as had been promised, that recommendation is HERE

Regarding your specific false statement that the ACIP suggesting moving seniors to the back of the line:


Do you see anything there about race determining who gets vaccine? Do you see anywhere where it says give it to POC instead of the elderly? No you don't. Nobody is picking on white people by denying them vaccine because of their color.

Its in today's sum newspaper.

Phone number was taken down as it became overloaded. It is first come first served at specified locations.

State facts , it's two weeks between shots as suggested .

I'm 73 and have mucho conditions.but hell I'm retired so no hurry. Take care of the car givers first!

Patience grasshopper.

Very interesting, what was the source of this article? :ohdear:

If your are retired you should be last to be vaccinated. Vaccinate those that have to go to work. Old retirees can quarantine and wait for a vaccination in the safety of their home. This not the time to be selfish.

PATIENCE PEOPLE! Be thankful and grateful that vaccines have been developed so quickly and patiently wait your turn.

Front line people and nursing homes are and SHOULD get it first. Wait your turn and eventually youll get it. But its obviously fair that these others get it before us

Chinas plan was to get old and sick to not be a burden on society. Covid will stop pensions, social security, and Medicare. China will run the world before 2030 and they are working their plan. Wait till you see Covid-23. Keep buying Chinese, fools.

Wah Wah. Wah... poor baby.

Yes but i wonder how and who formed Warp Speed!! It didnt just happen and picked all of those experts who have done a superb job without someones supervision!! Or did it just form itself?? Come on man!!

If you hate America and hate your life, move on to the next realm.

"State facts...." Good advice. Pfizer is 21 days (3 weeks) between shots and Moderna is 28 days (4 weeks) between shots. Information available from many sources including page 3 of this data sheet put out by the CDC.

Got my vaccine yesterday which to me is very impressive and thanks to the administration for the warp speed efforts. Shame on Pfizer for not announcing their progress before the election in an attempt to influence the election.

This criticism might be a bit harsh. From the CDC link that was provided it is possible to find the ACIP recommendations and in particular the evidence table for allocations where the following two statements can be found.

In the Ethics section for essential workers:

Mitigate health inequities: COVID-19 vaccination helps to address the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 among some racial and ethnic minorities who are overrepresented in subsets of essential workers.

In the Ethics section for persons over 65 years:

Mitigate health inequities: Although racial and ethnic minority groups are underrepresented among persons >65 years,

While the ACIP certainly didn't say "old people are too white," the racial makeup of the different groups clearly was part of the consideration.

I posted something similar to this regarding the vaccine distribution the other day to another thread. I was listening to an epidemiologist last week and he made a lot of sense. He was saying the Federal government and the states have this all wrong in the way this is being distributed. His points were this.

Why was the vaccine developed? To stop people from dying.
Who are the people who are dying? The vast majority of those over the age of 65.
His point was by the end of January it is estimated that fifty to sixty million doses of the vaccine are to be available. This was enough to vaccinate all hospital workers, nursing home employees and patients as well as everyone over the age of 65 in the country. By doing this death rates and hospitalizations would dramatically freeing up the hospitals. Once this was accomplished then you would be free to vaccinate front line workers and start vaccinating those left from oldest, those with underlying conditions to youngest. People who are in their twenties, thirty’s and forties who are healthy and have no conditions do not need the shot at this time. This would result in eradicating the virus as quickly as possible.By doing it the way they are they are picking winners and losers and this never works out well and will only prolong getting this under control. I thought he made a lot of sense.

We have to have something for you to whine about. Getting old.