Digital proof of vaccination is in the works
 

So glad there is digital proof of vaccination in the works. Paper proof is so easily forged and is basically worthless.

I want to see vaccination mandated for public transportation, getting on cruise ships, entrance to theme parks, entrance to sporting events, entrance to concerts and so much more. The list is endless. Maybe some of you anti-vaxers will change your minds about getting the shot.

Microsoft, Salesforce and Oracle working on Covid vaccination passport

Get your wallet out, this will not be cheap.

If one has had their vaccination, what difference does it make? Or is government telling us all what medicines we have to take or have injected into our bodies the proposal here? Slippery slope. Btw, yes... I chose to have the vaccine.

Next a chip..
Be careful what you wish for!

I will be willing to pay for this "passport" so I can travel, get back to normal activies and most important to hubby and me, cruise again.

I honestly do not think it will come to that..

What difference does it make? When vaccination is mandated (and I truly believe it will be) to live our lives like we used to, we will all need proof of vaccination. As I said in my OP, there are so many activities that should mandate vaccination. That is the difference when you are vaccinated....to be able to live life normally again. No proof of vaccination? People will be restricted with what they can do in life. For example.....like to travel? You need to be vaccinated. Like to go to concerts or sporting events? You need to be vaccinated.

This is what I wish for.

"Ihre papieren bitte. You vill comply."

Let us hope this never happens here.

If you have your vaccination you can live life as you used to do. Mask until all who wanted the vaccine have received it. Perhaps birth control, number of children allowed and no vaccines for anyone over the age of 65 will be the next steps. Appears to be much hysteria in some where common sense should rule the day. People are being vaccinated, some are even getting vaccinated after having Covid a short time ago. Their taking vaccine from those that have no protection yet. Go figure.

Never in 10 years commented on TOTV until today.....I have had my first shot and am totally supportive of vaccine. My wife and I travel extensively, particularly on cruises. Due to a serious medical condition, her specialist says she cannot have vaccine as it could trigger a possible immune reaction which could cause her to go blind in one eye. So???????? I appreciate everyone wishing to be safe and smart. However, there will be exceptions as those folks who cannot accept a vaccine have and will continue to exercise appropriate and proactive measures to protect themselves and others. just sayin........

I get that and regular influenza could take me out but the flu vaccine has a lower efficacy that the Covid vaccine and not everyone will get the flu shots. They should should be mandated to take medications on my behalf? This country shouldn’t go there, IMHO.

So hackers from the world over get into personal....
 

and government computers on a minute by minute basis and you think digital is safer than paper?

There is no safe way to guarantee someone has had the shot....and it doesn't mean they aren't a carrier...scared yet?

No one will HAVE to comply. Those who do not comply, however, will probably not see a return to normal life as they knew it pre- pandemic if there are vaccine mandates.The choice is up to the individuals how they will live out the rest of their lives. Travel or no travel. Concerts or no concerts. Sporting events or no sporting events. Movie theaters or no movie theaters. Airline travel or drive. Cruising or no cruising. The list goes on and on and on and on.

No, I'm not scared. I plan to be fully vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine. (fingers, toes and eyes crossed!!!) That gives me 94.1% protection of not contracting Covid and 100% protection of not needing hospitalization if that remainder 5.9% gets me infected with Covid. I'm good with those odds.

No worries by the time the cruise ships are up and running, the first vaccine may not be effective for the next strain. And so it begins. There are many who can’t take the vaccine, not won’t, but can’t. Those who are in treatment, pregnancy, or allergic reactions, may never get clearance for the current vaccine. The minute you fill out paperwork for vaccine, and answer YES to
Have you ever had an allergic reaction to any vaccine, or medication
Have you used an epi pen personally, or treated at a healthcare facility for a reaction.
This vaccine is not FDA approved, we do know if it will harm a fetus.
The vaccine will not be given at this time, or maybe never.
If one thinks the vaccine should be mandatory, no matter the situation, so they can get back to their previous Covid life, think again. If giving the vaccine might cause harm or death that would fall under the code of ethics to patients
Do No Harm.

I have continued to live my life, since last March, with very little change. I flew the first commercial flight after 911, so flying during the last 10 months has not been a life changing experience. Tomorrow is not guaranteed, so at least I didn’t waste all these months sitting in my house. Then again the new pastime of chasing the vaccine is getting people more screen time, and out of the house to drive 5 miles, or 500 miles to get in line. So I guess that’s a bonus

As far as digital imprinting, that will be the next money making scheme, ligit or not so much

Everybody "thinks" ....but nobody "knows".

Ditgal proof.. yes you are now trackable.. welcome to china..

I believe in the wait and see approach. Never buy the first model of anything. Maybe in a year or two if the virus is still a thing perhaps I will get vaccinated. Until then I will wait and watch for adverse reactions in the guinea pigs. The frenzy people are in to get a vaccination is akin to the toilet paper craze.

Exactly! I had the first shot and had a rash reaction on my face and arms. (In fact, my face still is red after a month!). Since I have had an anaphylactic response to the sulfa drug in the past, two doctors, a nurse, and CDC guidelines have recommended not getting the second one. “Not worth the risk.” My sister-in-law has severe allergies and was also told by her doctor NOT to get the shot.

I concur that some of us who have had allergic reactions to shots in the past have to be weary of getting this vaccine. There's also constant mutations that occur which scientist are already scrambling to figure out if this latest vaccine will be effective for them. No one knows how long your inoculation will be effective for either. Not a guarantee to prevent you or others from future infections (you can still be an asymptomatic carrier), so I'm always going to try to social distance and do good hand hygiene versus having blind faith in one vaccine. But with all that said I'm genuinely happy for those of you who feel more peace with the 'protection' of this first vaccine.

You are trackable now. Welcome to US of A

Couldn’t have said it better.

You have the freedom to refuse the vaccine but if you do then you will lose your freedom to travel and gather with others. Is this bullying, coercion, or outright extortion?

Many others (goog!e and Apple for two) built exposure trackers early on. As far as I know, these have not been mandated in any of the states. Hopefully a vaccine passport will also be an idea that never catches on.

It’s sounds like your choice is imposing your fears and beliefs on others, not all of us live in fear, not all of us want a shot that doesn’t stop you from getting Covid, just lessens symptoms, has a risk factor and has not been completely tested...so basically if we don’t believe what you want, all our freedoms should be restricted or taken away...wow, just wow..

True. If kids are mandated to have certain vaccinations to start school, then adults should be mandated certain vaccines too. I dont think thats too much to ask

Thank you..agree 100%

People who can not take the vaccine for medical reasons, unfortunately, will not be able to go back to pre-Covid life. Those who can and are willing to take the vaccine should have the opportunity to go back to the life as we knew it before this pandemic.

Moderna press release re: vaccines' efficacy with new variants......

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine Retains Neutralizing Activity Against Emerging Variants First Identified in the U.K. and the Republic of South Africa | Moderna, Inc.

Only an anti-vaxxer would have that concern. Personally, I invite being able to digitally prove I have been vaccinated against Covid. Why not?

Isn't that what epi-pens are for?

I'm really surprised at the difference of opinion some people have about proving, a person has been vaccinated. We already have discussed that paper "proof" can easily be forged. Why not have a fail safe method of proof that can not be forged? I am truly appreciative that this opportunity will exist for those of us who have been vaccinated.

The vaccine will not be mandated. The government is not forcing anyone to get nor will they.

But it may be required to shoe proof that you have ben vaccinated in order to take part in certain activities or use certain facilities.

It's no different than stores requiring you to wear a mask. You don't want to wear a mask, don't go into that store. You don't want to be vaccinated, you can't get on the cruise ship.

That is very different than mandating a vaccine for everyone.

If you ate vaccinated, why does it matter to you if another person isnt'..
You wont catch it because you are protected.
Seems it would be none of your business as there is no effect on you.
You want everyone to be forced to doing things your way and are willing and even desirous of "punishing" those who wont comply with what you want by limiting their personal freedoms. Sounds tyrannical to me.

And a new government agency in Washington and in each state employing thousand of folks. And yes, a substantial fee.

Doesn’t make sense... if one is vaccinated what difference is it if an unvaccinated person sits next to you on a cruise ship? Isn’t one completely protected from the person who elects not to be vaccinated. Why would one care one way or the other?

It is false that only an anti-vaxxer would have this concern. I have this concern and I am definitely not an anti-vaxxer.

Absolutely (to the above highlighted text)!!!

The efficacy of the vaccines affords an individual 94.1% efficacy from the Moderna vaccine and 95% efficacy from the Pfizer vaccine. That means that an individual will have 94.1% protection of not becoming infected with Covid when taking the Moderna vaccine and 95% protection of not becoming infected when taking the Pfizer vaccine. Both vaccines offer 100% protection of not having severe disease therefore not requiring hospitalization.

That is extremely good for these vaccines to offer that kind of protection.

Yup. It really is as simple as that!

If you want a gold star to wear or a "digital passport" to show so others can pat you on the back - go for it. But DO NOT try to impose your fears of beliefs on me.

Requirements for vaccinations for anything other than the most critical jobs where freedoms have VOLUNTARILY been given up are counter to what this country was founded on.

What does that have to do with individual choice and freedom? When some decide what is best for others and impose their beliefs, freedom is lost which is far worse than covid19.

You get it! You said it better than I did and I thank you for that.

Another way to divide people. "US" and "THEM".
It makes we really sad to see how "THEY" are changing our mindsets.
But then again, sheep will be sheep.
In the meantime, just another way to point fingers at and shame our friends and neighbors. It's an ugly look on people and those doing it should be ashamed of themselves.