Who else is very tired of Dr. Faucci and mixed messages?
 

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

When he said last week we need to pass the stimulus, his credibility off the cliff.

I have 100% respect for Dr. Fauci's expertise and knowledge.

I have confidence in the medical expertise of Dr. Fauci. (Spelled with one C) on matters relating to vaccines.

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Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


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I have zero confidence in someone who changes his mind more often than a hooker at a bankers convention and believes The Who is doing a good job.

My mind boggled when he recently revealed that even when completely vaccinated and still practicing wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing we should not be dining in, going to movies/entertainment venues, visiting grandchildren, etc.

I thought he previously advised that being vaccinated would allow us to get back to some sort of normal!

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated? We must be doing something right by not becoming ill during that one year period!

Exactly! With the stupid comments that come out of his mouth, he pushes more and more people to forgo the vaccine if being vaccinated still forbids you from returning to a normal life.

Could it be that things change because we learn more? The vaccine will protect you and if you don't care about others you can go back to normal. They don't know if, even though you probably won't get sick, if you can carry and spread. So if that's a possibility you decide if you want to protect your friends, kids and grand kids.

When whole numbers are sufficient folks like Fauci want to talk out at the 7th decimal place...having no significant impact on the whole number.

With no accountability or responsibility one can say whatever they want.....

Early on, that's what the available science indicated, combined with the needs of health care workers, who were experiencing a deficit of PPEs at the time.

And then, the science changed and so did the availability of PPEs.

If you can accept that the concept of "progress" is valid, happens, and can actually be a good thing, you can accept the above, without condemnation of the people who deliver the information.

I respect Dr. Fauci and science, after that its up to our common sense.

Who else is tired of the Covid debate in general?

Re-read...................a statement of fact is not condemning. :ho:

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Fauci is consistently inconsistent. In my book, he has ZERO credibility.

It's like he is trying to keep everyone happy.

In the beginning the wind was blowing one way, then the wind shifted and he shifted as well...

I do not trust him..

That is the truth? And how do you know that is the truth? Did you see it written on stone tablets? Or did you hear it from the same man who said wearing masks would give a false sense of security and would be worse than no mask at all.....until he changed his mind?

Fauci is dealing with new information and sometimes has to change guidance based on that new information. Unfortunately, he seems to also be leveraging his reputation to attempt to drive public behaviors. "Fauci said" is heard more often than "Simon says" these days. In the case of the masks, he acknowledged that part of the reason for his initial message was to preserve masks for doctors - he was trying to drive our behavior. In the case of the number of vaccinations needed for herd immunity he acknowledged that he increased his estimate when he learned that more people were accepting the vaccine - it was off to a good start so he could shoot higher and attempt to get even more people on board.

I trust his expertise but I don't trust the man. I believe he knows his field but I suspect this virus is doing things he doesn't expect and he's struggling to understand it. When he talks about science he has credibility but when he attempts to sway public opinion and drive behaviors he loses it.

Fauci did not keep me alive.

Exactly.

He needs to be taken behind the school for a beatin'. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

I am disappointed in him for many reasons. I'm like Quick Draw McGraw with the remote when he comes on TV.

I do trust him. I trust his background and his expertise, his knowledge and lack of it. This variation of the Corona Virus, Covid-19 had never been encountered by a human before and so what it did to people; to thousands of people, millions of people had not been studied before. I think he did as well as any person in the the entire world in answering questions to the best of his knowledge about what would happen.

It must have been very difficult because the main person in charge is never as qualified to understand things like this Pandemic. And this is true of all Presidents before him. It was almost a year before the person in office before this one had a Surgeon General and people placed in quarantine during the threat of Ebola in Maine, ignored the order to be quarantined. Ebola kills 50% of those infected although it isn't as contagious by far.. No President I have known have been experts on medicine and sometimes what the medical people have to say is at odds to what would be best to keep the country running. So these cross purposes and downright lack of knowledge is thrust at the person who must give directions on the nations health. I felt for him time and time again. What a hot seat he has sat in over time.

I also have great respect for Dr. Fauci, but he makes judgments I don’t always agree with. I would prefer strictly data from him and not opinions. I was not happy when he said masks do not help people. He didn’t explain why he said that in March last year which would have helped me to accept his statement. He does not want people to delay the second dose even though there is data to show that one dose is highly effective and can last for some time. So there are two of his judgements I personally disagree with. But on the whole, I am quite happy with many of his other suggestions.

Just after January 20th, Dr. Fauci made an announcement on TV and he said he can FINALLY be transparent to Americans about the pandemic. He said he would always tell the American people the truth now that he can be transparent.

What does that tell ya????

Oops. Duplicate post.

This is a reply I made on another forum. This was my response to someone who claimed that Dr. Fauci said we did not have to wear masks if we were not symptomatic..........

I truly believe Dr. Fauci lied alright and I will never forgive him, even if it came from the top to tell the American people this lie. The reason I say this is because Dr. Fauci has worked with respiratory viruses his entire career and has devoted his life's work to epidemiology. The influenza virus has asymptomatic carriers of the virus so it was very possible the Covid virus would also. Why not err on the safe side???



Respiratory viruses are transmitted by droplets and aerosols and the Covid virus is no different. Dr. Fauci knew this. I understand why he lied. He even said he lied to us but for a good reason. He said he did not want Americans to purchase all the PPE that the health care professionals needed to take care of sick Covid patients. He apologized for the lie. I heard him say it in an interview on TV.



I honestly think if he and the administration at the time. were honest with the American people, we could have had a handle on the pandemic better than we have faired. Home made masks were better than nothing for protection but very effective for source control. All Dr. Fauci had to tell the American people was to cover our faces when in public with anything other than N95 or KN95 masks. Leave those N95 and KN95 masks for the health care professionals who are on the front lines fighting the war against Covid.



Just out of curiosity, early on in the pandemic, I went to Amazon to see how many N95 or KN95 masks there were and how much they were. To my surprise, every single listing for N95 or KN95 masks were blocked off to the public. They were only for sale for health care providers and health care facilities. That is all it took to prevent the general public from preventing those supplies from going to the health care professionals.



I firmly believe Dr. Fauci's hands were "tied" by his boss at the time. And I'm so damn mad about that!
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Having said all that.......I would like to add to this above comment that I still do trust Dr. Fauci. He made it very clear to the American people in months after the pandemic began, that he did lie about us not needing masks if we were not having symptoms but for a good reason. At least he admitted to the lie which, to me, is a testament to the man's character. He finally told us the truth which is more than I can say for his previous boss.

Science evolves and so does this virus. What was true yesterday may not be true today. If you follow science, you know this. I listen to the man who has devoted his entire professional life to epidemiology.

The vaccines prevent death and long haul side effects. Isn't that enough of an incentive to consider being vaccinated?

Not I said the cat!!!

Truer words were never spoken. IMHO, I have always thought that if EVERYONE wore a mask in public AND kept a safe distance from others ALL THE TIME, we would not be in this mess of a pandemic.

If you have watched Fauci then I wonder which way he’s going tomorrow as he’s changed course at least 3-4 since thus started , and scientists live for grants so they can do their pet projects so they have interesting being in the forefront so I don’t always trust their motives either

If people getting the shot cannot get back to doing what they were prior to the virus, then why get the shot?? I’m suspect and will never get the shot.

How about not dying? Is that enough incentive for you? How about not have those lingering long haul side effects even if you do survive the virus? Is that enough incentive for you?

There is new evidence coming out of Israel that the mRNA vaccines prevent the transmission of the virus. That is the best news to come our way about these vaccines. Dr, Fauci did make this announcement and I saw him on a news cast on TV saying that.

In addition, because of this new evidence, fully vaccinated people who have an exposure to a Covid positive person, DO NOT have to quarantine. To me, this means there is evidence that a vaccinate person can not transmit the disease.

This is what the CDC has on their website regarding vaccinated people not needing to quarantine if exposed to Covid. Take note of the 4th bulleted point...........

Interim Clinical Considerations for Use of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

Just my opinion but if this latest evidence shows without a doubt that vaccinated people will not transmit the virus, there will be updated recommendations from Dr. Fauci. We just have to wait.

Great. So long masks. I am vaccinated.

Finally an intelligent response. He can only make decisions and give advice based on the knowledge and statistics currently available.

Why did he say that? Money in it for his department. IMO he flip flops too much. Also why FDA dragging feet to evaluate J&J vaccine. That one going to be game changer IMO, you’ll be able to get at drug store, urgent care centers, doctor offices, anywhere where there a pharmacy.

That goes straight to his credibility. If you're saying he lied because his boss told him to, that shows lack of integrity. Would you lie because your boss told you to? I know if my boss told me to lie I would either ignore his order or find another job. If your word is no good anything you say is suspect.

I see your point but....I still trust the man. He did something that many people could not bring himself to do. Admit he was wrong.

You got it wrong.

First, he is a man who has been verbally abused by the largest megaphone in the world. If he had news to get out that was not pleasing to admin, he was forbidden to talk, which his boss can, and did do. He ha been called an idiot on national TV and was forbidden to respond.

The experts on TOTV, and other places seem to have become experts in medicine suddenly.

He has been a leader in many causes over the years. As mentioned, he is learning (perhaps not as fast as TOTV posters or some elected officials) as everyone is doing.

This is tiresome, degrading a man, but it is what we are now. Respect nobody who does not agree 100% with is the new philosophy. Accuse people of the things you do.

Dr Fauci does not claim to be perfect, admits he is trying to get it all right.

Headlines today attack him saying Corona Virus “experts” criticize him for mixed messaging. Read the article.....a few of the “experts” have zero medical background, and the criticism is that he is too cautious ( a repeat of things said before when it was at its peak). I will take cautious over announcing early on that the virus is over

He will not tout a drug, nor become complacent about where we are. Instead of praising reckless claims about the downfall of this virus, cannot adults even realize he is not a cheerleader, and, for me anyway, I will be happy with trying to get it right rather than damning this guy.

Get your facts correct. Do not quote people “out of context” with apparently no idea of what he said.

“When asked by Stephanopoulos if schools had the resources available to abide by the new CDC guidelines, Fauci said he did not believe so.

“I think that the schools really do need more resources and that's the reason why the national relief act that we're talking about getting passed — we need that. The schools need more resources.”

Fauci: Stimulus bill needs to be passed for schools to reopen | TheHill

“When asked by Stephanopoulos if schools had the resources available to abide by the new CDC guidelines, Fauci said he did not believe so.

“I think that the schools really do need more resources and that's the reason why the national relief act that we're talking about getting passed — we need that. The schools need more resources.”

Dr. Fauci is not a politician who has to make his mind up on a topic even if he lacks any factual information, then stick with that decision even as new information comes in. His guidance has changed as more information became available about COVID-19 and, unfortunately, as the government chose to ignore the recommendations he made, as well as those made by the CDC, the WHO, etc. and as a significant section of the citizenry has chosen to follow the advice of non-experts, 24-hour news channel talking heads and conspiracy nuts. Has he strayed from his area of expertise on occasion? Possibly. Are we tired of living under the restrictions he has urged? Undoubtedly. Should we follow his advice, even as it is updated, revised and otherwise changed? You bet.