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SilverRose 08-04-2021 12:07 PM

Florida Set a New Record for Covid Hospitalizations
 
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''

Dana1963 08-04-2021 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverRose (Post 1983568)
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''

This Pandemic has been so much fun we’re getting ready to do it all over again

Dond1959 08-04-2021 12:58 PM

If you are vaccinated your risk of hospitalization is very low, and your risk of death is very, very low. It is mainly younger, unvaccinated people going to the hospital and unfortunately dying. It is their choice to not be vaccinated at this time so they will suffer the consequences.

Altavia 08-04-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dond1959 (Post 1983599)
If you are vaccinated your risk of hospitalization is very low, and your risk of death is very, very low. It is mainly younger, unvaccinated people going to the hospital and unfortunately dying. It is their choice to not be vaccinated at this time so they will suffer the consequences.

Anyone needing non-COVID hospital services are also suffering. Elective diagnostics and surgerys are delayed leading to non-COVID deaths.

Most cruel is the inability to visit loved ones in the hospital.

DAVES 08-04-2021 02:58 PM

My two cents worth the problem is people.

First of all read the posts and see people attacking each other-just like rats on a sinking ship.

We have been dealing with covid 19 for a year and a half or perhaps two. Efforts to control. We are getting sloppy. I am getting sloppy. All diets work. The reason most fail is people start out have some success but do not, stay with it. Same is true of many things.

The vaccines. Frankly the claimed effectiveness is/was way above normal effectiveness for any vaccine.

Viruses easily mutate. The NEW variant being called delta is apparently more easily transmitted and less likely to kill.

We expect, WE DEMAND, perfection. Reality does not work that way.
As I listen to the rain outside, weren't we told that heat and rain would slow down, stop
the virus.

We have no choice. Do the best that YOU can. Discrediting others, name calling and other clearly bad taste posts-helps no one-not even yourself.

Rose Ann Vinci Igoe 08-04-2021 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverRose (Post 1983568)
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''

I just want to give people a heads up no matter what your feeling now. I just found out 4 of my vaccinated friends have COVID... VERY BAD.. IV'S ADMINISTERED... AND a couple of months ago, another 2 of my friends got COVID, ONE with in 2 weeks, died, suffocated to death fast. The other was my brother 6 weeks in ICU almost lost him 3xs could not regulate heart, lungs filled with puss yes puss not Flem .. he is alive... 3 months later home and damage w blood clot.. this is no joke. pls even if you are vaccinated... masks and distance... its not a get out of jail card.. and the variant is spiking as we speak... oh ya.. on these people... it was there FAMILY MEMBERS THAT GAVE IT TO THEM....

GrumpyOldMan 08-04-2021 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose Ann Vinci Igoe (Post 1983652)
I just want to give people a heads up no matter what your feeling now. I just found out 4 of my vaccinated friends have COVID... VERY BAD.. IV'S ADMINISTERED... AND a couple of months ago, another 2 of my friends got COVID, ONE with in 2 weeks, died, suffocated to death fast. The other was my brother 6 weeks in ICU almost lost him 3xs could not regulate heart, lungs filled with puss yes puss not Flem .. he is alive... 3 months later home and damage w blood clot.. this is no joke. pls even if you are vaccinated... masks and distance... its not a get out of jail card.. and the variant is spiking as we speak... oh ya.. on these people... it was there FAMILY MEMBERS THAT GAVE IT TO THEM....

Thank you and I wish your brother well.

Altavia 08-04-2021 03:20 PM

Hospitals are offering over $5,000 a week to traveling COVID nurses...

John41 08-04-2021 03:43 PM

To put it in perspective if you are hospitalized with the flu you have a 7% chance of dying and about 1% with Covid.

GrumpyOldMan 08-04-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983674)
To put it in perspective if you are hospitalized with the flu you have a 7% chance of dying and about 1% with Covid.

That is pretty much meaningless unless you care to explain why they explain 600,000 dead in the last 18 months from COVID and 20,000 dead from the flu.

PLEASE not the "600,000 is a hoax" answer... sigh

drducat 08-04-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1983680)
That is pretty much meaningless unless you care to explain why they explain 600,000 dead in the last 18 months from COVID and 20,000 dead from the flu.

PLEASE not the "600,000 is a hoax" answer... sigh

They no longer know these numbers to be true due to the failed PCR testing results being what ever virus dead or alive showed up...half could have been a bad flu for all you know.

John41 08-04-2021 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1983680)
That is pretty much meaningless unless you care to explain why they explain 600,000 dead in the last 18 months from COVID and 20,000 dead from the flu.

PLEASE not the "600,000 is a hoax" answer... sigh

It means exactly what it says. If someone is hospitalized with the flu he is much more likely to die than from Covid. Another example is Ebola which if hospitalized has a mortality rate of 40%. Since you quoted hospitalizations I thought it would be informative to know how likely one were to die if hospitalized.

—————- mortality if hospitalized—-
Common cold. 0%
Covid Delta………1%
Influenza………….7%
Ebola…………….. 40%

We have vaccines highly effective against Covid 95%+ but influenza vaccines are only 40% to 60% effective .
Many, many more people have been infected with Covid than the flu so the total number of death is higher this year. But the flu is more deadly.

golfing eagles 08-04-2021 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983674)
To put it in perspective if you are hospitalized with the flu you have a 7% chance of dying and about 1% with Covid.

More misinformation!

To really put it "in perspective" with the facts:

The hospital admission rate for COVID varies with age----2.5% ages 18-49, up to 17.2% age over 85, average 7.3%. Of those hospitalized, 15% died, could not get a breakdown by age, but WAY above 1%.

The hospitalization rate for seasonal influenza is 9.1/100,000 population or .0091%., and about 10% of Americans get the flu each year, so 0.091% vs. 7.3%
So your chances of ending up in the hospital with "the flu" is miniscule compared to COVID

I couldn't find an accurate number for the percentage of hospitalized flu cases that die, but we know the mortality rate year to year is about 0.1% of cases. The 15% deaths of 7.3% hospitalized COVID patients come to about 1%, or 10x as deadly as flu, which is in line with other known data

So bottom line, if that was hard to follow, is that you are MUCH MORE LIKELY to die of COVID than the flu.

PS: My numbers are all from the CDC especially MMWR. And yours?????

Escape Artist 08-04-2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverRose (Post 1983568)
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''

The article doesn't say what the age group affected (teens? 30-somethings?) or if they are Florida residents and other important information. We were told at the beginning of this that the important thing was to have the elderly and those at risk for complications to get vaccinated. We've done that as evidenced by Florida's herd immunity in that age demographic. You can't protect everyone from themselves in a free society! The vaccine in there, it's available, it's FREE! Sometimes you just have to let people live (or die) with their own choices.

golfing eagles 08-04-2021 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983706)
It means exactly what it says. If someone is hospitalized with the flu he is much more likely to die than from Covid. Another example is Ebola which if hospitalized has a mortality rate of 40%. Since you quoted hospitalizations I thought it would be informative to know how likely one were to die if hospitalized.

—————- mortality if hospitalized—-
Common cold. 0%
Covid Delta………1%
Influenza………….7%
Ebola…………….. 40%

We have vaccines highly effective against Covid 95%+ but influenza vaccines are only 40% to 60% effective .
Many, many more people have been infected with Covid than the flu so the total number of death is higher this year. But the flu is more deadly.

Anytime you would like to provide a legitimate source, I'm all ears. Oh, and btw, the general reporting category is influenza AND pneumonia deaths, which year to year generally runs about 10 x as high as influenza alone, so please present the right data

Vikingjunior 08-04-2021 05:06 PM

Close the border.

John41 08-04-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 1983716)
Close the border.

EXACTLY. Operation Warp Speed gave us two excellent vaccines but the rollout this year has been a disaster for lack of leadership and Covid infected illegal immigrants being seeded across the country.

"This is a guy who ran for office saying he’s going to shut down the virus," DeSantis added. "And what has he done? He’s imported more virus from around the world by having a wide open southern border."

kkingston57 08-04-2021 05:32 PM

Appears Sumter county cases are low, but there are repercussions. Had to go to the ER and arrived at 6:15PM. 30+ people in the waiting room. We were told that ER beds and hospital beds were all full. Took me 7 hours to be examined, x rayed and blood tested.

On the bright side, it probably could have been worse if this had not happened in August.

Was told that Leesburg hospital was also full.

villageuser 08-05-2021 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983674)
To put it in perspective if you are hospitalized with the flu you have a 7% chance of dying and about 1% with Covid.

One doesn’t get the possible long term complications from the flu as they do with COVid - weakened heart and/or lung function, a host of other unbearable issues. You really want to take that kind of chance with your body?

thevillages2013 08-05-2021 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983674)
To put it in perspective if you are hospitalized with the flu you have a 7% chance of dying and about 1% with Covid.

Are the hospitals getting paid thousands of dollars by the federal government for flu cases or just Covid cases? Asking for a friend who says “follow the money”

egmcaninch 08-05-2021 05:26 AM

COVID Number in FL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverRose (Post 1983568)
Florida now has 11,515 people hospitalized for Covid. This is a new record. Since Florida had a total population of 21.48 million. This means one in every 1865 Floridians is now hospitalized for Covid.

Despite record COVID-19 hospitalizations, Florida'''s governor says '''admissions have slowed'''

Just curious - Anyone know if the influx at the southern boarder has impacted number in FL - in the US?

DrBrutyle109 08-05-2021 05:29 AM

Wow
 
Best thing to do is lock yourself in a closet with a mask and face shield. You do that while I go out and play golf and enjoy my life. You can be hurt everyday just walking out the door. More room outside for me.

Dana1963 08-05-2021 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 1983847)
Are the hospitals getting paid thousands of dollars by the federal government for flu cases or just Covid cases? Asking for a friend who says “follow the money”

I heard it from a friend who new someone that heard it from a janitor at a hospital somewhere that your statement could possibly be true.

asianthree 08-05-2021 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1983606)
Anyone needing non-COVID hospital services are also suffering. Elective diagnostics and surgerys are delayed leading to non-COVID deaths.

Most cruel is the inability to visit loved ones in the hospital.

More than 80% of surgeries are OP, so no beds required. Facilities are scheduling elective surgeries everyday.Still playing catch-up from 2020. Plus all of the off-site surgeries are up and running. Trauma and emergency surgeries are still happening 24/7.
The only downside for the surgeons if the patient is in FEAR of boarding surgeries. Reading and actually working in a surgical facility is very different of everyday life

milling73 08-05-2021 05:59 AM

These doom and gloom posts serve no purpose.

Sheltie-Lover 08-05-2021 06:02 AM

I doubt those 615,000 people that died care about your statistics.

asianthree 08-05-2021 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1983661)
Hospitals are offering over $5,000 a week to traveling COVID nurses...

So far on the 4 travel sites that I belong to no facility is offering $5000 per week. But some are offering a one time bonus. But I am just skimming the hundreds of real opportunities weekly from some of the top agencies.

When you were offered $5000 a week did you have to travel to the Carolina’s, or did you get that money in Florida?

Cobullymom 08-05-2021 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose Ann Vinci Igoe (Post 1983652)
I just want to give people a heads up no matter what your feeling now. I just found out 4 of my vaccinated friends have COVID... VERY BAD.. IV'S ADMINISTERED... AND a couple of months ago, another 2 of my friends got COVID, ONE with in 2 weeks, died, suffocated to death fast. The other was my brother 6 weeks in ICU almost lost him 3xs could not regulate heart, lungs filled with puss yes puss not Flem .. he is alive... 3 months later home and damage w blood clot.. this is no joke. pls even if you are vaccinated... masks and distance... its not a get out of jail card.. and the variant is spiking as we speak... oh ya.. on these people... it was there FAMILY MEMBERS THAT GAVE IT TO THEM....

No it was CHINA that gave it to them..stop the blame game…

Florida17 08-05-2021 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1983674)
To put it in perspective if you are hospitalized with the flu you have a 7% chance of dying and about 1% with Covid.

Thank you

Sheltie-Lover 08-05-2021 06:05 AM

Rather crude and insensitive statements do not belong here.

Cobullymom 08-05-2021 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dond1959 (Post 1983599)
If you are vaccinated your risk of hospitalization is very low, and your risk of death is very, very low. It is mainly younger, unvaccinated people going to the hospital and unfortunately dying. It is their choice to not be vaccinated at this time so they will suffer the consequences.

I had Covid and I wasn’t vaccinated, and I’m not young nor dead…people and their fear mongering…never ends

Cobullymom 08-05-2021 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1983708)
The article doesn't say what the age group affected (teens? 30-somethings?) or if they are Florida residents and other important information. We were told at the beginning of this that the important thing was to have the elderly and those at risk for complications to get vaccinated. We've done that as evidenced by Florida's herd immunity in that age demographic. You can't protect everyone from themselves in a free society! The vaccine in there, it's available, it's FREE! Sometimes you just have to let people live (or die) with their own choices.

I had Covid and I wasn’t vaccinated, and I’m not young, nor old, nor dead, I’m actually doing fine…people and their fear mongering…never ends

Billy1 08-05-2021 06:14 AM

My understanding is that hospitals are full of people dying from covid, the other info is a deflection from what is taking place.

Altavia 08-05-2021 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1983880)
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When you were offered $5000 a week did you have to travel to the Carolina’s, or did you get that money in Florida?

Missouri

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-05-2021 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villageuser (Post 1983830)
One doesn’t get the possible long term complications from the flu as they do with COVid - weakened heart and/or lung function, a host of other unbearable issues. You really want to take that kind of chance with your body?

They should be allowed to take their chances, as long as they sign a waiver stating that IF they end up with COVID symptoms, they were not permitted entry to the hospital. They can self-isolate until the symptoms subside or until they're dead - their choice.

Blackbird45 08-05-2021 06:21 AM

I don't know why people are debating influenza, pneumonia and covid deaths. Dead is dead, my wife and I got the shot for all three.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-05-2021 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egmcaninch (Post 1983852)
Just curious - Anyone know if the influx at the southern boarder has impacted number in FL - in the US?

The influx at the Texas border has had little to no impact on the number of people in Florida with COVID, because it has had little impact on the number of people in Florida, period.

Immigrants in from Mexico/Texas aren't being sent to Florida and told "be free!" and just cut loose at the airport. It just flat out isn't happening. It's fear-mongering, a CONTINUED attempt to blame Mexicans for all the ails of the USA, because the fear-mongerers don't want to admit that they could have done more right here in the states to reduce transmission, but chose not to.

Just like Europe blames the French, the USA blames the Mexicans or the Muslims, depending on the situation that week.

rlcooper70 08-05-2021 06:26 AM

Well ... the governor says that we have 'freedom' to choose in Florida ... I guess he's right on that. Why would someone choose to avoid getting the vaccine at this point? I don't get it.

dolphin 08-05-2021 06:27 AM

Traveling urses
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie0723 (Post 1983661)
hospitals are offering over $5,000 a week to traveling covid nurses...

whaaaat

JMintzer 08-05-2021 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egmcaninch (Post 1983852)
Just curious - Anyone know if the influx at the southern boarder has impacted number in FL - in the US?

Well, bus loads of "migrants" are being shipped to FL, so I'd say "yes"...


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