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Labor loves building houses
Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. Changing the fabric of a Retirement Community will only cheapen the quality of Retiree life by creating more expenses to draw from a fixed income. Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! And this Tipping thing is over, do your job and make me a pizza
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Will agree that tipping has gotten out of hand.
Someone handing me my dinner which I take to my table and than making me place used tray and plates and silverwear somewhere for them to clean or whatever is not going to get a tip from me. Taking my order at a table and than bringing my food to the table and refilling my glass is a different story. |
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Within the Villages, the non-age-restricted housing is completely separate from the age-restricted housing. They have their own facilities and recreation, completely separate from yours. The only expense I can think of is that some of your property taxes may be used to build roads and schools. Just like in any city in the country. |
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And do you expect us to be so gullible as to believe that you as a "High Skilled Tradesman" were paid less than $11 an hour ten years ago? |
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Disney is paying 20.00 bucks per hour to their Cast members, with 5 % increases every year…frustrating seeing these and other entry level jobs making these wages & pushing that tip jar in our faces… guess I’m just sick & tired of the system bleeding the Retiree on Fixed incomes… I’m comfortable now but the future looks bleak..
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OP managed to cover 3 complaints in one post.
Housing Minimum Wage Tipping Maybe OP had a bad day or just needs to let up on consuming the media a little bit. So TV is not paying for the housing. The minimum wage in Florida is one of the lowest in the country. Tipping is always optional. I hope you have a better day. |
Don't get me stated on the tip jar. I remember when I first saw one of those back in the 80's at the register of our favorite pizza hut. Though it's been widely accepted for the past I don't know several years, it wasn't as much in the customer's view back then. Optional yes, but the idea to try to collect more money after being left a tip at the table seemed pretty outrageous. I don't think I've ever fed one of those... ever.
As for minimum wage... hmmm $20 now, $3 back when I first began working. I need to start upping my side job hourly rate... they pretty much caught me up! |
Starting for for new graduate RN can start at $22-24 hourly rate, state by state, unless you want to work in high crime area, then you get hazard pay.
So why go into health care, when you can work for Disney, get ticket perks, and have a stress free magical day. |
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The News does get my goat pretty easily lately, and I’m flipping all channels..that 20.00 per hour Walmart story, possibly took me over the edge, knowing most employees still qualify for supplemental government benefits..I’ll just take a chill pill and try to figure out how to process 20 million illegals getting Social Security numbers and 1099s. It might be less Stressful… anyway Thanks again … |
Let’s see, Villagers complain about service at restaurants… mostly due to lack of staff. I note some FB posts recently where a few of the CC restaurants cancelled breakfast service due to lack of staff. We were at Cody’s mid week. We can tell the staff was short. Handed. Our server was out of breath a few times coming to our table so her tips could suffer as the time between visits were too long.
I digress… Wildwood and other towns around the villages see and hear about short staffed establishments and decide to subsidize housing for more minimum wage workers. Is that any different that the state and cities giving large tax credits to large corporations to bring their businesses to FL? Subsidized housing is the same IMHO just 1-2 people at a time. Also IMHO, the service is very good in and around the villages (with some exceptions) as I compare it to Denver/Aurora where we moved from… seems to me more hard working folks want to get out of poverty or just struggling workers vs. workers that have more of an entitled mindset… but just my $.02. |
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I guess you shouldn’t complain about labor shortages in the villages if you think people should drive 40 minutes to an hour each way to come a serve you for ??? an hour . Apartments are a great idea for the workers in the villages . Schools to .
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I guess you shouldn’t complain about labor shortages in the villages if you think people should drive 40 minutes to an hour each way to come a serve you for ??? an hour . Apartments are a great idea for the workers in the villages . Schools to .
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No subsidy
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We had our cleaning ladies here (3 of them - only 1 spoke English).
The cleaning ladies gave me an estimate of $120 for 2 Bedrooms, 2 bath rooms, kitchen, open dining/living room and den. They (there were 3 of them) were here for 45 minutes !!! That's over $40 an hour. Did they clean very well ? NO. They are not coming back.
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Family communities have always existed in The Villages. As far as I know, Villagers don't subsidize them. Residents of family villages do not have access to amenities nor are they golf cart accessible.
I suppose that the Morse family sees an opportunity to derive income from that particular segment of the market. Why would they not? It does not, as you suggest change the fabric of the community. Raising the minimum wage only creates inflation which actually makes it more difficult for those making minimum wage. Minimum wage was never meant to be something that people could survive or raise a family on. As far as tipping. I never tip for counter service. It has never been requested until recently. I resent the fact that it is often included in the credit card machines that many fast food companies now use. Table service on the other hand is a different matter. Service people work hard and take care of our needs. They make a lower minimum age and deserved to be tipped. Now some might say, just raise their minimum wage to the same level as all other workers. All that would do would be increase the prices on everything in the restaurant. This is especially true since people are not going to do that job for minimum wage. People get into the service business because they know if they do a good job, they will be rewarded. If you worked this increase into the prices of the product, you need to consider that not only will the restaurant owners have to increase prices by the new wage but they would also have to include the increases in taxes and workman's comp and other expenses into the prices. So if you tip 20% now, imagine a price increase of 25%-30& across the board. Also, if your server does not do a very good job, you have the option of tipping less. |
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You are incorrect , there is Very little affordable housing within 60 minutes by car to The Villages, that is why there is such a shortage of employees. And when a place under $1.500 a month ( remember most here make $10 hr or less) one has to pay a $100 non refundable
fee just to apply to get it ( usually at least 50 apply to every non 55 plus rental that comes up) I know 4 young families that had to move to Orlando or other areas because they could not find a place to live. If the developer wants to continue to build, he needs to build some affordable housing that people working for the wages paid here, can afford to buy. The family housing close homes are more outrageous then the homes in The Villages. Most can not afford $200.000 for a 800 sq ft house not including bond assessments, taxes,and Villages usage fee's. If they don't start building true affordable housing, The Villages will have a bunch or retires that paid lots of money , have money, but they will have no place to go due to lack of employees. As of today, most employees drive at least 45 min to go to work. Not good for the future. |
You are incorrect , there is Very little affordable housing within 60 minutes by car to The Villages, that is why there is such a shortage of employees. And when a place under $1.500 a month ( remember most here make $10 hr or less) one has to pay a $100 non redundant fee just to apply to get it ( usually at least 50 apply to every non 55 plus rental that comes up) I know 4 young families that had to move to Orlando or other areas because they could not find a place to live. If the developer wants to continue to go he needs to build some affordable housing that people working for the wages paid here, can afford to buy. The family housing close homes are more outrageous then the homes in The Villages. Most can not afford $200.000 for a 800 sq ft house not including bond assessments, taxes,and Villages usage fee's.
If they don't start building true affordable housing, The Villages will have a bunch or retires that paid lots of money , have money, but they will have no place to go due to lack of employees. As of today, most employees drive at least 45 min to go to work. Not good for the future Florida has one of the lowest min wages in the country, and most of the schools are rated lowest in the US. It is time more is done to help young folks. |
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The local communities like Wildwood seem to be building a lot of housing for non-villagers, and I think that is great. |
Originally Posted by RICH1 [edited]
Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. ... Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! ... Reply by Blueash: [edited]. That is why capitalist entrepreneurs are building new housing. That is why the Morse clan, not stupid people at all, are building more family sections. The work force now comes from afar. And do you expect us to be so gullible as to believe that you as a "High Skilled Tradesman" were paid less than $11 an hour ten years ago? Quote:
And then you threaten me with disaster??? What is wrong with you? I did not twist your comment which despite the poor wording seems to say that the minimum wage today is higher than your salary 10 years ago. If that is not the meaning of "the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago" you write very unclearly. Then you accuse me of only presenting my TWISTED SPIN when I 100% completely included your exact words in my post which is so obvious I don't know how you can make up such a lie about what I wrote. Again see post #4 where your entire post is included above my comment. Please consider why you need to threaten physical violence even if someone did call you stupid or suggest why a disaster is somehow forthcoming if someone misquotes your words. Wow, just Wow. |
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"Please consider why you need to threaten physical violence even if someone did call you stupid or suggest why a disaster is somehow forthcoming if someone misquotes your words. Wow, just Wow." I can only assume that there aren't any mods around right now, because they normally would have instantly deleted that threatening post, as they're usually pretty good about keeping impotent keyboard warriors/extremists from getting away with things like that...which was beyond the pale. |
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We could see what every position made in my system that owned 300 plus facilities, all over the country. It was incentive to post hourly wages from starting to top. Oncology for an RN, not much up grade. ICU, ED, OR, are at the middle, depending on added on certification. However, $100,000 isn’t in any RN scale. NP, ORNP, PA, PAOR, can make six figures, but not all. House RN mom, which was mid management, but never enough money to put up with all the crap. Even with many of us working 60 plus hours a week durning Covid, $100,000 was never in the mix. Many were furloughed or hours cut. Both of us have 45 years each in multi healthcare facilities, our kids, are Doctors, PAOR and RNOR, certified. Granddaughter is started med school this year, trauma orthopedic is her passion, like her grandfather. But conversation this weekend was “ I just figured out by the time I finish residency, I will be $700,000 in debt”. And then I still have to enter into my trauma orthopedics specialty. She said sometimes she questions debt could reach a million dollars and will it worth it. Then she goes to cadaver lab, sees how fractured bones could have been repaired better, and knows it’s all worth the money, |
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