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MacScuba 02-26-2024 02:24 PM

Should Earthlings travel to and inhabit Mars? A discussion.
 
Jim Laurent will discuss travel to and habitation of the planet Mars and discuss the question of should this be undertaken.

Our regular room at Everglades is unavailable due to prep for early primary voting.
We will meet Tuesday March 5th and Riverbend Rec Center at 1:00PM
Riverbend Rec Center is at 1833 Corbin Trail, The Villages, FL, 33585 Only about a mile southeast of Everglades Rec Center.

Brought to you by The Villages Science and Technology Club - South. Open to all Villagers and guests. You will need your Villages (or Guest) ID card to enter. No club "membership" required.

VApeople 02-26-2024 06:38 PM

No, I think Mars is very nice just as it is.

Those of us who love Mars don't want humans to move in and screw it up like they did to poor old Earth.

Skip our beautiful planet and give Jupiter a try. I never liked that bossy big planet anyway.

jebartle 02-26-2024 06:45 PM

Loooooooong way off, it took 50 years to land on moon AGAIN!

BrianL99 02-26-2024 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacScuba (Post 2305397)
Jim Laurent will discuss travel to and habitation of the planet Mars and discuss the question of should this be undertaken.

Our regular room at Everglades is unavailable due to prep for early primary voting.
We will meet Tuesday March 5th and Riverbend Rec Center at 1:00PM
Riverbend Rec Center is at 1833 Corbin Trail, The Villages, FL, 33585 Only about a mile southeast of Everglades Rec Center.

Brought to you by The Villages Science and Technology Club - South. Open to all Villagers and guests. You will need your Villages (or Guest) ID card to enter. No club "membership" required.

It's fairly obvious that The Villages will run out of expansion land eventually and Mars may offer a viable alternative. As it is, many people I've met here, seem to have come from there (Mars).

CoachKandSportsguy 02-26-2024 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2305441)
No, I think Mars is very nice just as it is.

Those of us who love Mars don't want humans to move in and screw it up like they did to poor old Earth.

Skip our beautiful planet and give Jupiter a try. I never liked that bossy big planet anyway.

:mademyday::bigbow:

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-26-2024 07:22 PM

Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell. And there's no one there to raise them, if you did.

Hape2Bhr 02-26-2024 07:27 PM

Aren't we originally from Mars anyway. Of course, after the trip from the Pleiades earlier.

shaw8700@outlook.com 02-26-2024 08:52 PM

There’s no way people are going go to Mars, not now or ever.

MrFlorida 02-26-2024 08:55 PM

I'm sure the Morse family already owns land there.

golfing eagles 02-26-2024 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2305455)
There’s no way people are going go to Mars, not now or ever.

Huh? Is there a basis for that assertion or are you just floating it out there?

BigDawgInLakeDenham 02-26-2024 09:20 PM

Initial thoughts
 
1. Mars bars are inferior while everything Hershey's is worth traveling to

2. I would pay good money to go deep into the resistance underground just to see Quado pop out that dudes belly

3. MARS has no amenities or golf in the southern areas except for a butcher that charges $58 a pound for a decent steak and has Marsy Bingo on a Monday night

Velvet 02-26-2024 09:49 PM

I think Mars might be interesting to visit as a tourist but until they developed some winter sports there or something, I don’t see much attraction.

villagetinker 02-26-2024 10:03 PM

Marvin (the Martian) has specifically requested NO visitors. I also understand his space modulator has been revamped to track intruders. I have this on good advice from Bugs Bunny.

manaboutown 02-26-2024 10:43 PM

Unless we become a space going race we die when the sun expires.

BigDawgInLakeDenham 02-26-2024 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2305475)
Unless we become a space going race we die when the sun expires.

You're way beyond these folks mind capabilities. Keep it to like...everything is OK, kinda responses. They all believe that they can control the weather and that all orbits don't decay...sad and frustrating

mtdjed 02-26-2024 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2305444)
Loooooooong way off, it took 50 years to land on moon AGAIN!

And we have a broken Lander after 59 years of progress. How would you like to see that if you were on the Mars lander? Once was in attendance to a session with an astronaut. I recall his comment regarding confidence in mission success. He made a comment relating to hard to be 100% when all of the parts were made by the lowest bidder.

Taltarzac725 02-27-2024 12:03 AM

What is the temperature on Mars? | Space

They are going to need some kind of coats at minus 195 degrees F.

Absolute zero - Wikipedia

LuvNH 02-27-2024 06:55 AM

If, and that is a BIG if, we make it there I think we should turn it into an international penal colony. Putin should be first over the threshold, then politicians and so on and so forth down the line.

djlnc 02-27-2024 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2305475)
Unless we become a space going race we die when the sun expires.

We are just an insignificant speck in the universe. Not a great loss.

BTW, the book Red Mars, by Kim Stanley Robinson is the best scifi book I've ever read. Give it a try.

opinionist 02-27-2024 07:50 AM

There are people who have the spirit of adventure and would risk their lives to experience the unknown. I say let them go for it because Earth can be a hostile place at times. It is not much different than the colonists who came to America in search of a better life. Would anyone say that they made a mistake?

ThirdOfFive 02-27-2024 07:50 AM

No worries. With Elon calling the shots we’ll have a Mars colony by 2035 and will be mining the asteroid belt soon after.

As it should be.

Stu from NYC 02-27-2024 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2305455)
There’s no way people are going go to Mars, not now or ever.

Do you still believe the earth is flat an we will fall off?

Stu from NYC 02-27-2024 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2305541)
We are just an insignificant speck in the universe. Not a great loss.

BTW, the book Red Mars, by Kim Stanley Robinson is the best scifi book I've ever read. Give it a try.

Speak for yourself, we are a curious bunch of humans and can learn a lot by exploring.

Davonu 02-27-2024 09:27 AM

Whether we should or not is irrelevant...it's inevitable. Mankind is an explorer.

retiredguy123 02-27-2024 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2305595)
Speak for yourself, we are a curious bunch of humans and can learn a lot by exploring.

I agree that humans are curious. But, why is it that the American taxpayers always get stuck paying most of the costs for exploration? Aren't humans in other countries curious enough help fund the exploration?

villager7591 02-27-2024 09:31 AM

If possible, I would like to volunteer some crabby neighbors for Mars...

LuvNH 02-27-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2305605)
I agree that humans are curious. But, why is it that the American taxpayers always get stuck paying most of the costs for exploration? Aren't humans in other countries curious enough help fund the exploration?

We always pay the bill because we want most of the proceeds. It all comes down to money, money, money in a rich man's world.

BigDawgInLakeDenham 02-27-2024 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2305605)
I agree that humans are curious. But, why is it that the American taxpayers always get stuck paying most of the costs for exploration? Aren't humans in other countries curious enough help fund the exploration?

Do you now have to address these Mars attracted individuals as "Mars curious":shrug:

fdpaq0580 02-27-2024 12:56 PM

We will go! Why? Because it is there!

mraines 02-27-2024 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacScuba (Post 2305397)
Jim Laurent will discuss travel to and habitation of the planet Mars and discuss the question of should this be undertaken.

Our regular room at Everglades is unavailable due to prep for early primary voting.
We will meet Tuesday March 5th and Riverbend Rec Center at 1:00PM
Riverbend Rec Center is at 1833 Corbin Trail, The Villages, FL, 33585 Only about a mile southeast of Everglades Rec Center.

Brought to you by The Villages Science and Technology Club - South. Open to all Villagers and guests. You will need your Villages (or Guest) ID card to enter. No club "membership" required.

Until we learn to clean up this planet, we should not be going anywhere.

Dusty_Star 02-27-2024 01:43 PM

Of course we will travel to Mars, & beyond.

Velvet 02-27-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2305701)
Of course we will travel to Mars, & beyond.

Speak for yourself, I’m pretty happy here in Florida myself.

Stu from NYC 02-27-2024 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2305605)
I agree that humans are curious. But, why is it that the American taxpayers always get stuck paying most of the costs for exploration? Aren't humans in other countries curious enough help fund the exploration?

If our govt was smart they would take control of the new technologies that come about thru space exploration and license it to companies that want to make use of it.

Byte1 02-27-2024 02:39 PM

Kind of stupid to put folks up there before installing habitats to be self-sustaining. First thing that should be done is send up equipment and supplies to terraform the planet to make it habitable. It's going to need oxygen producing vegetation and in order to sustain vegetation, it must have a source of water. Even if they start now, it won't happen in my lifetime, so it really doesn't matter to me. That's a lot of money that will be potentially thrown away, that could be better used here. Of course, if Elon Musk wishes to throw his money into the wind, it's his to do with as he wishes.
But, as for sending folks up there on a sight seeing trip, it seems to be costly and very, very dangerous.

Stu from NYC 02-27-2024 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2305722)
Kind of stupid to put folks up there before installing habitats to will be self-sustaining. First thing that should be done is send up equipment and supplies to terraform the planet to make it habitable. It's going to need oxygen producing vegetation and in order to sustain vegetation, it must have a source of water. Even if they start now, it won't happen in my lifetime, so it really doesn't matter to me. That's a lot of money that will be potentially thrown away, that could be better used here. Of course, if Elon Musk wishes to throw his money into the wind, it's his to do with as he wishes.
But, as for sending folks up there on a sight seeing trip, it seems to be costly and very, very dangerous.

Back when we were much younger much more dangerous to sail from Europe to America.

fdpaq0580 02-27-2024 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2305722)
Kind of stupid to put folks up there before installing habitats to will be self-sustaining. First thing that should be done is send up equipment and supplies to terraform the planet to make it habitable. It's going to need oxygen producing vegetation and in order to sustain vegetation, it must have a source of water. Even if they start now, it won't happen in my lifetime, so it really doesn't matter to me. That's a lot of money that will be potentially thrown away, that could be better used here. Of course, if Elon Musk wishes to throw his money into the wind, it's his to do with as he wishes.
But, as for sending folks up there on a sight seeing trip, it seems to be costly and very, very dangerous.

Short stays determine if it can be done. Longer stays will determine the real feasibility for possible permanent bases and the possibility for terraforming for the actual survival and colonization by humanity. Our Martian descendants will have to adapt and evolve there in the same way we have, and continue to evolve here, physically, socially and intellectually.
It won't happen in my lifetime either, and I leave no descendants of my own. Still, I wonder and hope my species will survive and succeed in become a light in the universe.

fdpaq0580 02-27-2024 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2305739)
Back when we were much younger much more dangerous to sail from Europe to America.

To sail where no one has sailed before!

Topspinmo 02-27-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2305450)
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell. And there's no one there to raise them, if you did.


If they come daycare will follow.:sigh:

Topspinmo 02-27-2024 05:12 PM

With all problems in this country plus 35t and climbing like rocket heading for moon in debt I don’t see the point? Actually ISS waste of money now IMO.

Topspinmo 02-27-2024 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2305701)
Of
course we will travel to Mars, & beyond.

Not in our life time. Maybe in 100 years? :ohdear:


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