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senior citizen 12-14-2012 01:05 PM

Tragedy in Connecticut
 
For those of you who are from Connecticut or have loved ones or grandchildren in Connecticut, for the past hour or more, CNN has been reporting about the shooting of 27 or more in the Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, CT. Hearbreaking news............shooter is dead. News conference upcoming........God Bless. F.B.I. on scene, etc .
http://news.msn.com/us/at-least-27-d...mentary-school



2BNTV 12-14-2012 01:11 PM

Article from CNN.

Children and adults gunned down in Connecticut school massacre – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

I just saw this on the television. What a tradgedy. Article says 20 killed.

Newtown is 25 minutes from where I live. My thoughts and prayers to those family and friends who have loved ones that were killed and those who are traimatized. :pray:

2BNTV 12-14-2012 02:02 PM

Reporting that at the least, 10 children are dead.

'Close to 20' dead in Connecticut school shooting, source says - CNN.com

This is sickening to me. I'm at a loss for words.

Tom Hannon 12-14-2012 02:04 PM

NY papers say 18 children, 7 teachers are dead. So sad to take the children. What is this world coming to? I could not imagine getting a phone call like that and telling my my kid was not coming home.

jebartle 12-14-2012 02:05 PM

What horror
 
My prayers to all of the families....Just so so sad, these families anticipating the thrills of Christmas with their loved ones, only to discover that their sweet child is gone....Oh, I just want to cry....What is going on in this world!...How can we isolate these NUTS before they do real harm???

Tom Hannon 12-14-2012 02:08 PM

Glad SWAT killed the ******* before we waste tons of money for a trial and the time to rehab this devil.

2BNTV 12-14-2012 02:10 PM

Daily News article -27 Dead - 18 Children

I feel like crying.

Masked gunman kills 27, including 18 children, at Connecticut primary school; Evacuations, terror within Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. - NY Daily News

aln 12-14-2012 02:11 PM

:pray:

Prayers are needed for many people right now for many reasons.

Taltarzac725 12-14-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 594528)
For those of you who are from Connecticut or have loved ones or grandchildren in Connecticut, for the past hour or more, CNN has been reporting about the shooting of 27 or more in the Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, CT. Hearbreaking news............shooter is dead. News conference upcoming........God Bless. F.B.I. on scene, etc .
18 children among 27 dead in Conn. school shootings


I saw that on the AOL News. Horrible. Not sure if there is any kind of solution to these kind of tragedies. Cannot really do away with guns. Just look at how well Prohibition worked with getting rid of alcohol? They seemed to make booze even more prevalent in certain sections of society by outlawing it. http://history1900s.about.com/od/191...hamendment.htm

Prayers for those whose lives have changed or been lost because of this.

spk7951 12-14-2012 02:16 PM

My wife told me about this when I came home from golf earlier. Can not put into words how we feel for those that are suffering and also hope that none of our friends living in that area of CT have suffered any loses.

shcisamax 12-14-2012 02:37 PM

I too lived 25 minutes to Newtown. In fact, we boarded our horse there for several years. For the life of me, I cannot imagine a less likely place for such unimaginable violence. I am heartbroken for all in Newtown, Fairfield County.... the country. What is happening to people?

janmcn 12-14-2012 02:42 PM

My heart is breaking for these families in Newtown, CT. Sickening. Unimaginable.

If these young men, like the shooter, want to take their own lives, let them sit in their cars and blow their miserable brains out...don't take all these innocent people with you.

graciegirl 12-14-2012 02:47 PM

Just returned from Golf to hear this horrible news.

Golfingnut 12-14-2012 02:53 PM

So horrible.

tpop1 12-14-2012 02:58 PM

Dark day!
 
First of all I am sick to my stomach over this unspeakable act. We are praying for these children, teachers, police, EMTs, and others who were caught in today's hellish act.

The innocents pay the price for selfish, self centered, violent individuals who prolifirate in today's society.

I have already seen posts blaming guns. Its not the guns, its endemic of a society where there are little consequesces for ones's anti-social actions. We see it all the time; no discipline, no punishment and no being "responsible for one's actions!.

The slipery slope we allowed to grow has turned into a mud slide!!!

It's time to change or our way of life is done.
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Cantwaittoarrive 12-14-2012 03:06 PM

Now Fox news is reporting 20 children killed. How anyone could kill someone else I will never know but how anyone can kill 5 year olds is beyond my comprehension.

Taltarzac725 12-14-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantwaittoarrive (Post 594596)
Now Fox news is reporting 20 children killed. How anyone could kill someone else I will never know but how anyone can kill 5 year olds is beyond my comprehension.

Very sick and/or evil person.

Barefoot 12-14-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aln (Post 594560)
:pray:

Prayers are needed for many people right now for many reasons.

Amen to that. Unspeakably sad news. :pray:

rubicon 12-14-2012 03:12 PM

We have not learned from the previous school, mall, movie theatres shootings. And while well intented pundits will narrow their focus to gun control and mis-lead the discussion. The "cause"of this was not guns. The "cause"is a person whose emotional state had been ignored.

What a terrible thing for young kids to have to go through. God hear our prayers,

eweissenbach 12-14-2012 03:14 PM

There is really nothing, beyond TSA type security, that can be done to stop people who's minds are so twisted that they would even consider such an act. Someone like that is an anomaly and could show up anywhere, unfortunately. And no one that I know would support airport security at all schools, theatres, malls, and restaurants, nor could we afford it.

Taltarzac725 12-14-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 594604)
We have not learned from the previous school, mall, movie theatres shootings. And while well intented pundits will narrow their focus to gun control and mis-lead the discussion. The "cause"of this was not guns. The "cause"is a person whose emotional state had been ignored.

What a terrible thing for young kids to have to go through. God hear our prayers,

So far on this thread, I have only noticed one mention of guns. I just wrote that outlawing guns was not the solution as they would probably still be accessible to criminals as well as to some mentally ill people. The 18th Amendment was a disaster at controlling the abuse of alcohol even if well-intentioned at the beginning. Seemed more like a recipe for corruption as Prohibition developed.

Any over broad approach would probably just be a recipe for abuse of power in government. The 2nd Amendment is there to curb abuse of government.

Golfingnut 12-14-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 594604)
We have not learned from the previous school, mall, movie theatres shootings. And while well intented pundits will narrow their focus to gun control and mis-lead the discussion. The "cause"of this was not guns. The "cause"is a person whose emotional state had been ignored.

What a terrible thing for young kids to have to go through. God hear our prayers,

I agree the cause was not guns, But as God is my witness, without AUTOMATIC HAND guns, this would not have resulted in so many deaths.
My prayers go out to all for this senseless tragedy.

graciegirl 12-14-2012 03:34 PM

words are so inadequate. The president was unable to speak too.

So awful. Dear little ones, all so innocent and so frightened in their last moments. Dear God. Their moms and dads. No one should have to suffer this indescribable pain.

shcisamax 12-14-2012 03:35 PM

So how is it possible that all these twisted people manage to get guns? While I am not one to mess with the constitution, I wonder why it appears the criminals and the crazies are the ones who get them?

mfp509 12-14-2012 03:35 PM

My friends in Glenbrook are from Newtown - I called them right away. I wouldn't be surprised if they know someone related to one or more of the victims. I am also from CT - what a terrible thing!!

LittleDog 12-14-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 594607)
I agree the cause was not guns, But as God is my witness, without AUTOMATIC HAND guns, this would not have resulted in so many deaths.
My prayers go out to all for this senseless tragedy.

You hit the nail on the head about assault and high capacity weapons. That is where the problem lies, not the abolishing of guns themselves. Unfortunately some deranged individual will see this and then plan on some type of duplication.

John

2BNTV 12-14-2012 04:04 PM

A person at work has a daughter in the school and she is OK, Thank GOD.

It is being reported Ryan Lanza is the shooter and he killed his mother at the school and they found his brother dead at home.

I am sick thinking these small children are dead and will ever know the joys that come with growing up and having children themselves. Those surviving children are tramatized by this tradgedy and were crying.

Thoughts and prayers for all affected by this tradgedy. :pray:

KayakerNC 12-14-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 594606)
The 2nd Amendment is there to curb abuse of government.

Really?
I thought it was in there to have a readily available militia. :confused:

Taltarzac725 12-14-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 594642)
Really?
I thought it was in there to have a readily available militia. :confused:

Militia for what? In terms of the people who wrote the Constitution so that they would have enough arms to fight off the British as well as Native Americans and for whatever they might encounter in the very raw areas of much of the Colonial US.

I do feel that access to automatic and semi-automatic weapons is kind of a hard sale to make given that the Constitution was written when they were fighting with ax, musket, sword, tomahawk, bow-and-arrow, and cannon.

Lark7 12-14-2012 04:38 PM

We should all give an extra hug and kiss to our children and grandchildren this evening. We are blessed that each was not a victim of this tragedy. And our prayers should be for those parents, grandparents, siblings, and others who were touched by the victims. Life is very fragile.

cologal 12-14-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 594607)
I agree the cause was not guns, But as God is my witness, without AUTOMATIC HAND guns, this would not have resulted in so many deaths.
My prayers go out to all for this senseless tragedy.

Amen! We have the right to bear arms no question but I doubt the framers could have imagined the guns of today.We need to start a national discussion about gun violence....

My heart goes out to those parents who lost a child today.

steamdogman 12-14-2012 05:04 PM

It is hard to fathom what the parents, brothers and sisters and grandparents of these poor little children are going through tonight! This morning they probably all sat down at the breakfast table and grabbed their lunches and headed out to the school bus which was their daily routine.

Our hearts have to go out to the parents etc. Our hearts also go out to the family of the teachers who were also killed.

NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS IN THEIR LIFE TIMES LET ALONE PARENTS AND SIBBLINGS.

There are no answers to this dilema but it just seems to be occuring much much too often in this Country.

Villages PL 12-14-2012 05:23 PM

I'm very familiar with Newtown because my sister and her family lived there years ago and her kids went to that school. It's a very rural, sparcely populated, community as I recall. It seems unlikely for such a tragedy to happen in such a peaceful place.

Newtown is also known for having a mental hospital but so far there doesn't seem to be any connection with it. My grandmother stayed there in her last years because she had dementia (hardening of the arteries). Also, I had a girlfriend whose brother stayed there because he was severely retarded. That was a long time ago.

It's difficult to understand why anyone would shoot and kill little children. What was the purpose of that?

shcisamax 12-14-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 594652)
Militia for what? In terms of the people who wrote the Constitution so that they would have enough arms to fight off the British as well as Native Americans and what ever for they might encounter in the very raw areas of much of the Colonial US.

I do feel that access to automatic and semi-automatic weapons is kind of a hard sale to make given that the Constitution was written when they were fighting with ax, musket, sword, tomahawk, bow-and-arrow, and cannon.

Thank you for putting it in perspective.

buckscounty 12-14-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 594562)
I saw that on the AOL News. Horrible. Not sure if there is any kind of solution to these kind of tragedies. Cannot really do away with guns. Just look at how well Prohibition worked with getting rid of alcohol? They seemed to make booze even more prevalent in certain sections of society by outlawing it. 18th Amendment

Prayers for those whose lives have changed or been lost because of this.

Yes, we can do away with assault weapons, who needs them, any grandparent out there who has a solution, lets do it. It took one mother to bring drunk driving to light.

lovesports 12-14-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 594652)
Militia for what? In terms of the people who wrote the Constitution so that they would have enough arms to fight off the British as well as Native Americans and what ever for they might encounter in the very raw areas of much of the Colonial US.

I do feel that access to automatic and semi-automatic weapons is kind of a hard sale to make given that the Constitution was written when they were fighting with ax, musket, sword, tomahawk, bow-and-arrow, and cannon.

I so agree with you Tal, and many others here, who question the need to have all these assault weapons.
I have some terrible personal experience with school shootings while my daughter was at VT.
Please Please Please, lets work on getting these assault weapons banned. Even my family members who are NRA members agree with this. Shooting little sweethearts, can it be any worse? Words can not express how sad this sitaution is.

shcisamax 12-14-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovesports (Post 594719)
I so agree with you Tal, and many others here, who question the need to have all these assault weapons.
I have some terrible personal experience with school shootings while my daughter was at VT.
Please Please Please, lets work on getting these assault weapons banned. Even my family members who are NRA members agree with this. Shooting little sweethearts, can it be any worse? Words can not express how sad this sitaution is.

Maybe the NRA should start the movement.

shcisamax 12-14-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 594681)
I'm very familiar with Newtown because my sister and her family lived there years ago and her kids went to that school. It's a very rural, sparcely populated, community as I recall. It seems unlikely for such a tragedy to happen in such a peaceful place.

Newtown is also known for having a mental hospital but so far there doesn't seem to be any connection with it. My grandmother stayed there in her last years because she had dementia (hardening of the arteries). Also, I had a girlfriend whose brother stayed there because he was severely retarded. That was a long time ago.

It's difficult to understand why anyone would shoot and kill little children. What was the purpose of that?

It isn't quite as sparsely populated as you may remember. It is however a very peaceful place that at one point was named one of the the safest places to live.

justjim 12-14-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 594723)
It isn't quite as sparsely populated as you may remember. It is however a very peaceful place that at one point was named one of the the safest places to live.

My wife and I were in this area two summers ago visiting a friend. Newtown and surrounding area is (was) a very lovely peaceful community of upper middle class homes. No place is safe from a mentally deranged person. Our prayers are for all the families who lost loved ones in this needless tragedy. Gun control is a subject for another day.

De Lis 12-14-2012 07:33 PM

Tragedy for All
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aln (Post 594560)
:pray:

Prayers are needed for many people right now for many reasons.

Let us not to forget all those teachers who shielded the children!


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