[Irish Rover]

Ignorance of the rules (or laws) is not a defense. Had this not been Tiger, the perp would have been DQ'd. Tiger cannot disqualify himself but he can withdraw from the tournament. I hope the commentators will clam up about it and concentrate on the leaders and the other stories developing. Go Freddie!!!

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by Irish Rover

Ignorance of the rules (or laws) is not a defense. Had this not been Tiger, the perp would have been DQ'd. Tiger cannot disqualify himself but he can withdraw from the tournament. I hope the commentators will clam up about it and concentrate on the leaders and the other stories developing. Go Freddie!!!

I disagree, If this had been anyone else, I have faith in the professionalism of the Masters committee that they would have given the same ruling for anyone. Don't let Tigers ability nor race color you fairness.

[Scoops]

Originally Posted by Irish Rover

Ignorance of the rules (or laws) is not a defense. Had this not been Tiger, the perp would have been DQ'd. Tiger cannot disqualify himself but he can withdraw from the tournament. I hope the commentators will clam up about it and concentrate on the leaders and the other stories developing. Go Freddie!!!

Well said, Irish Rover. Let's see some golf!

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by Scoops

Well said, Irish Rover. Let's see some golf!

I agree with that, but don't blame this fiasco on Tiger.

[mrsyarbie]

I was shocked that they take calls from people watching at home, how silly is that... Can we call the NFL when the Super Bowl is being played ....

[dndlion]

Don't blame Tiger. My latest thoughts. The rule committee knew yesterday they were going to oppose a 2 stroke penalty. They knew if they imposed yesterday his starting time would have been earlier. If his tee time was earlier he would not have had as much time on Live TV coverage. So they decided to impose the penalty today with a later tee time and more $$ in the pockets with a higher TV rating....

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by dndlion

Don't blame Tiger. My latest thoughts. The rule committee knew yesterday they were going to oppose a 2 stroke penalty. They knew if they imposed yesterday his starting time would have been earlier. If his tee time was earlier he would not have had as much time on Live TV coverage. So they decided to impose the penalty today with a later tee time and more $$ in the pockets with a higher TV rating....

I tell ya this: What you say here makes more sense than blaming Tiger for the confusion. Most things today are about money, yet some try to find fault with the players instead of the management and I feel that is the wrong way to lean.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

I disagree, If this had been anyone else, I have faith in the professionalism of the Masters committee that they would have given the same ruling for anyone. Don't let Tigers ability nor race color you fairness.

There you go again. The one word that applies to this entire situation is contained in your first sentence and the the one word that has no application is race.

The entire golfing world has shown nothing but adoration for this guy's golfing acumen. They have made it clear he is golf. So when it comes to this rule violation this top of the top PROFESSIONAL PLAYER all of a sudden he did not understand the rule. Please. In my neck of the woods the response would be ""Do you think I just fell out of a tree? Finally please find a better argument then your a racist"" because it is getting so so old

I still like you. But face it tiger should have honored the integrity of this game we all love called golf and emulated Bobby Jones. I am once again disappointed in this player because he apparently lacks integrity and courage.

I opine you decide

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by rubicon

There you go again. The one word that applies to this entire situation is contained in your first sentence and the the one word that has no application is race.

The entire golfing world has shown nothing but adoration for this guy's golfing acumen. They have made it clear he is golf. So when it comes to this rule violation this top of the top PROFESSIONAL PLAYER all of a sudden he did not understand the rule. Please. In my neck of the woods the response would be ""Do you think I just fell out of a tree? Finally please find a better argument then your a racist"" because it is getting so so old

I still like you. But face it tiger should have honored the integrity of this game we all love called golf and emulated Bobby Jones. I am once again disappointed in this player because he apparently lacks integrity and courage.

I opine you decide

Well, I disagree with your opine totally, If you can blame this on Tiger, you have a personal reason. Tiger is following the instruction of the Masters Committee to the tee. To expect him to defy their decision would be disrespectful at the least. I don't know why, i.e. his race, talent, marital problems, or whatever, but something is clouding the thought process of anyone blaming this issue on Tiger. I give you three possibilities of your prejudice against Tiger, so pick one or come up with a fourth, but please don't blame Tiger for following the instructions of the Masters Committee.

[dndlion]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Well, I disagree with your opine totally, If you can blame this on Tiger, you have a personal reason. Tiger is following the instruction of the Masters Committee to the tee. To expect him to defy their decision would be disrespectful at the least. I don't know why, i.e. his race, talent, marital problems, or whatever, but something is clouding the thought process of anyone blaming this issue on Tiger. I give you three possibilities of your prejudice against Tiger, so pick one or come up with a fourth, but please don't blame Tiger for following the instructions of the Masters Committee.

I agree, just like you can not blame Arnold for 1958. Both Tiger and Arnold abbided by the decision of the Masters committee.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by dndlion

I agree, just like you can not blame Arnold for 1958. Both Tiger and Arnold abbided by the decision of the Masters committee.

Exactly. I am so sorry that negative thoughts come into my mind when someone blames the player for the decision of the referee. There are several things I could condemn Tiger for, but this is not the situation to flame him for. On the other side of the coin, I for one think he is the best golfer the world has even had to date.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Well, I disagree with your opine totally, If you can blame this on Tiger, you have a personal reason. Tiger is following the instruction of the Masters Committee to the tee. To expect him to defy their decision would be disrespectful at the least. I don't know why, i.e. his race, talent, marital problems, or whatever, but something is clouding the thought process of anyone blaming this issue on Tiger. I give you three possibilities of your prejudice against Tiger, so pick one or come up with a fourth, but please don't blame Tiger for following the instructions of the Masters Committee.

golfingnut: Can you say "confirmation bias", because that is exactly what your aforemention comments amount to. Your thinking is too linear. He didn't agree with the type penalty assessed so he must be a racist.

I would have reacted in the same manner if the situation involved my favorite player Fred Couples. The Committee ruled in his favor because they know he brings in a lot of money to the golf industry. I am a purest and that explains my sole and only reason. I am not a racist ,admire his talent and ignore his private life as I do with family friends, etc live and let live. Please be more careful with throwing that racist label around. It isn't fair nor is it proper

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by alemorkam

Tiger (#1 player in the world) knows the rules. He CLEARLY broke a rule of golf. He should disqualify himself. The precedent was set by Bobby Jones when he called an official over because he THOUGHT his balled moved. The official asked if anyone saw the ball move. Noone did. The Official told Bobby Jones that they should be no penalty. However, Bobby Jones said he would take the penalty because he was not sure. He LOST the major by one shot.

This decision is great for the ratings this week. It is all about the money. How many more people will watch because of this.

The rule the are citing for the 3 stroke penalty instead of disqualification says in fact "a play who "UNKNOWINGLY" breaks a rule which is brought to his attention after signing his card will be assigned a 2 stroke penalty.

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I really like Tiger Woods and enjoying watching him play. However, Tiger Woods needs to do the right thing and Disqualify Himself. Which he may yet.

Basically, you are accusing Tiger Woods of cheating. That's a pretty serious accusation. I've played tennis for 30 years. There are times when I've forgotten a rule or simply didn't know one. What about the pro football player on the Eagles (McNabb) who forgot the overtime rules? Or the coach of the Lions who threw a challenge flag when he was not allowed to and ultimately cost them the game? Are these people not professionals too "who know the rules"?

I don't think you can make such a statement.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by rubicon

golfingnut: Can you say "confirmation bias", because that is exactly what your aforemention comments amount to. Your thinking is too linear. He didn't agree with the type penalty assessed so he must be a racist.

I would have reacted in the same manner if the situation involved my favorite player Fred Couples. The Committee ruled in his favor because they know he brings in a lot of money to the golf industry. I am a purest and that explains my sole and only reason. I am not a racist ,admire his talent and ignore his private life as I do with family friends, etc live and let live. Please be more careful with throwing that racist label around. It isn't fair nor is it proper

That is a real Riche post but totally twisted. For someone that claims to like me so much, you sure don't show it in the above post.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Basically, you are accusing Tiger Woods of cheating. That's a pretty serious accusation. I've played tennis for 30 years. There are times when I've forgotten a rule or simply didn't know one. What about the pro football player on the Eagles (McNabb) who forgot the overtime rules? Or the coach of the Lions who threw a challenge flag when he was not allowed to and ultimately cost them the game? Are these people not professionals too "who know the rules"?

I don't think you can make such a statement.

Spot on post. Thanks for posting this.