[newguyintv]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

A simple, informative post..............amazing journey for this thread.

A real loss for us Villagers. Another I don't give a ****, it's just business for TV.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by rubicon

goodtimesintv: I agree with your 1st paragraph. I disagree with your comment concerning envy""...envy has nothing to do with the number of businesses VLSI smashed because they carry a monopoly and want to control their little fiefdom. Finally didn't Athens take personal risks of their assets and didn't they sweat to build a successful business here?

I admittedly don't care to eat out much but Athens was one of the better restaurants here. I will miss their deep fried haddock. apparently residents' loss is VLSI gain. C�st la vie

I guess I'll never understand the misguided loyalty residents seem to have with a business entity called VLSI...its not wise to love a corporation because its incapable of loving you back....like golf.

Personal Best Regards:

I think you are reading great respect for a well run business that has nothing to do with love. I think it is extremely wonderful to see the success of a family who has invested their own money, over and over and built a wonderful community.


I grow tired of hearing that every time a restaurant closes here that it is the developer's fault. Some people like family restaurants and some people like chains. I just like decent, good food, prepared, served hot and promptly. People chastise some of us for our admiration for the Morse business and give the same kind of admiration to a restaurant business. It is very hard to keep a restaurant business afloat in Florida with extreme highs and lows in traffic due to tourist seasons. Usually you can tell that a restaurant is peddling as hard as it can when it serves three meals a day, but even that sometimes is not enough to keep it afloat, keep the meals priced where people will buy them with the rising price of food. It is hard work that starts way before the restaurant opens and continues way after it closes. It is some of the hardest work anyone can choose to do, running a successful restaurant. But still doing all things right, sometimes a business closes. None of us know for sure just exactly what the terms were that the two could not agree to, but since the owners are younger, I bet they will continue in another location. Just a guess. I don't know a thing about them other what I have read here.

[Miles42]

Posting opinions that are clearly lacking in truth helps no one understand the situation. There appears to be other plans for the property. I guess we wait and see and just move on. There are some great places to eat in the area surrounding the Villages. We do get to elect the tenants some what with our spending habits.

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by rubicon

goodtimesintv: I agree with your 1st paragraph. I disagree with your comment concerning envy""...envy has nothing to do with the number of businesses VLSI smashed because they carry a monopoly and want to control their little fiefdom. Finally didn't Athens take personal risks of their assets and didn't they sweat to build a successful business here?

I admittedly don't care to eat out much but Athens was one of the better restaurants here. I will miss their deep fried haddock. apparently residents' loss is VLSI gain. C�st la vie

I guess I'll never understand the misguided loyalty residents seem to have with a business entity called VLSI...its not wise to love a corporation because its incapable of loving you back....like golf.

Personal Best Regards:

I don't have undying, misguided love for VLSI. I have RESPECT for them upgrading Spanish Springs and building new homes in the oldest neighborhoods of TV, so that all regions of TV are up to date and appealing to home buyers we will someday want to come and buy OUR homes here.

As one person said here before, the restaurant owner knew when they signed the lease whether they could renew or not. Obviously they kept their other two locations for a time such as this. Maybe they made enough money here and are now quitting while they're ahead. The overall economy is not stable, in fact I'd call it volatile.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by newguyintv

A real loss for us Villagers. Another I don't give a ****, it's just business for TV.

Just wondering, is this an opinion or a fact based statement?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Miles42

Posting opinions that are clearly lacking in truth helps no one understand the situation. There appears to be other plans for the property. I guess we wait and see and just move on. There are some great places to eat in the area surrounding the Villages. We do get to elect the tenants some what with our spending habits.

What other plans for the property have you heard about that are not rumors or opinions?

[exmayor95]

Owners are in their 30's.

[rustyp]

Someone on this site got it directly from someone who works directly for The Villages that there is a possibility of this parcel becoming a stretch Lantana for someone they can't talk about.

[bookseller61]

Always end up at Athens even if I did not start out there. Felllow upstate New Yorkers. My favorite place

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Just wondering, is this an opinion or a fact based statement?

As in many of his posts it it is an opinion camouflaged as a fact based statement.

[rubicon]

The OP said and another poster followed with the e-mail both of which made it clear that Athens wanted to renew. Anyone with an objective opinion who has witnessed VLSI dealings has come to realize they get what they want. If they find that can turn a better profit margin they desire they move on. Such was the case of the Wellness Center. If one had compared the cost to join the Wellness Center they would have found it similar except that group participation was separate. It costs substantially less with MVP and MVP includes both open area and group programs

I liked Athens because it had a dish that came close to a favorite in central New York. However I do not have a dog in this fight. It just perplexes me why people have such an affinity for a business entity that for business purposes will turn on anyone or anything to turn a profit, that's what corporations do....hence my , you can't love a corporation and as to respect if people had the opportunity to see the inner workings of such a corporation they may not respect it either. Simply stated I am a realist and my comments are not specifically directed to this corporation but to corporations in general of which VLSI is one that residents come in contact with daily
Its all good and in the end it really doesn't matter

Personal Best Regards:

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by rubicon

The OP said and another poster followed with the e-mail both of which made it clear that Athens wanted to renew. Anyone with an objective opinion who has witnessed VLSI dealings has come to realize they get what they want. If they find that can turn a better profit margin they desire they move on. Such was the case of the Wellness Center. If one had compared the cost to join the Wellness Center they would have found it similar except that group participation was separate. It costs substantially less with MVP and MVP includes both open area and group programs

I liked Athens because it had a dish that came close to a favorite in central New York. However I do not have a dog in this fight. It just perplexes me why people have such an affinity for a business entity that for business purposes will turn on anyone or anything to turn a profit, that's what corporations do....hence my , you can't love a corporation and as to respect if people had the opportunity to see the inner workings of such a corporation they may not respect it either. Simply stated I am a realist and my comments are not specifically directed to this corporation but to corporations in general of which VLSI is one that residents come in contact with daily
Its all good and in the end it really doesn't matter

Personal Best Regards:

I guess then I will have to accept what people are saying that their lease was not renewed because the developer had other plans for the space. After all, it is what the business owner said. I certainly respect your opinion Rubicon. Over time I had called on many small family owned businesses myself and watched many of them thrive and many cease.


We will see what happens to that space.

[Skip]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I guess then I will have to accept what people are saying that their lease was not renewed because the developer had other plans for the space. After all, it is what the business owner said. I certainly respect your opinion Rubicon. Over time I had called on many small family owned businesses myself and watched many of them thrive and many cease.
We will see what happens to that space.

They were offered a new 5 year lease. Chris did not like the new terms. Too costly for him.

Skip

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Skip

They were offered a new 5 year lease. Chris did not like the new terms. Too costly for him.

Skip

Please, will you tell us how you know that?

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Please, will you tell us how you know that?

Yes, please let us know. I thought the Athens wanted to renew and they did not offer them a renew because they had plans for the property?