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So I should ignore the fact that the keto/carnivore diet cured all my health issues because there are links to other studies? This statement right here is the problem... "There is a site, pubmed.gov, which posts most of the medical literature and studies from established and credentialed organizations. Any medical or diet recommendations should should be accompanied with multiple citations from this site or other renowned medical organizations." These "renowned medical organizations" are the same orgs that taught my last doctor to tell me, "You're over 50, nothing you can do. Just take the pills and you'll be fine." These organizations are the ones in bed with the pharma companies. FWIW I don't think all plants are killing people. I think some plants may be killing some people. Starting a carnivore diet is a good way to figure out which plants you may be sensitive to. Last edited by frayedends; 11-26-2023 at 09:07 AM. |
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[QUOTE=frayedends;2277438]So I should ignore the fact that the keto/carnivore diet cured all my health issues because there are links to other studies?
You can believe whatever you want but when some on this thread start proclaiming the the carnivore is a healthy diet that cures many ill and that plants are dangerous without citing credible peer reviewed literature then you shouldn't be surprised when others respond with science and fact based evidence. Were you truly cured or did the symptoms go away. Are there long term negative consequences that you don't know about? We have no idea unless you are willing to provide your entire medical record which probably isn't appropriate on this site. I could provide anecdotal evidence that I had significant improvement by going plant based but it would be almost worthless because it is just one data point. That is why I reference articles from established and credible medical organizations that substantiate their findings with established medical protocols and years of data. Pubmed.gov. If you can find information that backs up your beliefs then I would be most interested in reading it. |
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But this is just my opinion. As far as research, I won't be trusting anything "Dot Gov". They are the people telling us to eat mostly pasta and bread. I guess I wouldn't share my personal medical history here, but my A1C went from 5.7 (any higher is diabetic) to 5.0 in an extremely short time. I lost 30 lbs quickly and my BP and cholesterol have been fine. We are on a couple years now. Again, though, I didn't do strict carnivore, just very low carb. In any case, I've fallen victim to what I complain about and derailed a thread. The OP didn't ask us for advice on the diet. So I think we can agree to disagree on some points and move on to good meat recommendations. |
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"The generalizability of these findings and the long-term effects of this dietary pattern require further study." Of course they are going to get positive feedback because in the short term there are benefits. Study limitations This study was based on self-reported responses to an online survey. Recalling what exactly one eats in a week, month or year is notoriously difficult. And there is no way to objectively verify the accuracy of self-reported eating habits and health outcomes. As far as what Harvard officially recommends, it is more of a Mediterranean diet. Protein power – ¼ of your plate. Fish, poultry, beans, and nuts are all healthy, versatile protein sources—they can be mixed into salads, and pair well with vegetables on a plate. Limit red meat, and avoid processed meats such as bacon and sausage. Healthy Eating Plate | The Nutrition Source | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health And they are also a key participants of long term study of nurses started in 1976 Nurses' Health Study | CNN — A large new study by Harvard researchers suggests having just two servings of red meat per week increases risk for developing type 2 diabetes later in life, and the risk further increases with greater consumption, according to the study published Thursday in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. “The association between red meat and type 2 diabetes has been observed in different populations worldwide,” said the study’s first author Xiao Gu, a postdoctoral research fellow of nutrition at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, via email. “We keep strengthening existing evidence with improved data and techniques. I hope our study could settle the debate regarding whether we should limit red meat intake for health concerns or not.” It is a great body of research because of longevity and the number of people surveyed. And they cover much more than diet. |
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Never mind. No sense derailing the thread anymore.
Last edited by frayedends; 11-26-2023 at 05:08 PM. |
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I am going to look up Jason Logsdon as you recommended, but meanwhile what is the secret to getting a tender roast with sous vide? We think we did not leave it in long enough, but I want to know more before trying again because I don’t want to mess up a roast twice. Boomer
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If rump was tough it was almost certainly undercooked. |
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