[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by Hancle704

Is there an app that will also shut down cellphones of those that insist on carrying on loud conversations in restaurants and refuse to mute them in Church?

Believe it or not, there IS a piece of equipment that will do this. It is not an app, but equipment. For decades some police agency Hostage Negotiators have had it available.

It simulates being a cell tower and "captures" all nearby cell phone signals, keeping them from going to an actual tower where they can complete a call.

The purpose is to prevent the bad guys from communicating with anyone other than the negotiators.

Unfortunately, it is not available to the general population, and its use would be illegal anyway. It is illegal to interfere with wire and wireless communications in this manner.

[Easyrider]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

So, if I read you correctly, you are saying the only place they are not supposed to be is Cody's?

I think if you read it Cody's is the only outside place they are allowed..or at least that has the proper permit whether they meet all the requirements or not.

[Easyrider]

[quote=CFrance;773761]

Originally Posted by Easyrider

Makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it legal to smoke there then you should leave. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

Dog mauling on Lincoln Road worries pet owners and cafe servers - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.[/QUOTE

A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

Of course not since we choose to expose them to sirens...it is OK..

Sirens
A dog's mournful howling at sirens has been assumed to be triggered by pain, or at least, an unpleasant sensation.


THE RESPONSIBILITY PROJECT
PETS & ANIMALS
UP FOR DEBATE: PUTTING PETS BEFORE PEOPLE
Is it O.K. for humans to care more for their pets than the people in their lives?
Writing in The Wall Street Journal, reporter Elizabeth Bernstein notes that “love triangles” between people and pets “might be the trickiest types of relationships.”
In the Florida home of Marina and Kirk Wolak, one-year-old German shepherd Buck gets better meals than his masters. Mrs. Wolak recently served the dog “steamed broccoli for breakfast, raw ribs for a snack, and a grilled chicken breast and baked sweet potato for dinner,” while her husband and daughter supped on simple chicken. Said Mr. Wolak, “There is only one answer to fixing the wedge between us, and that is to get rid of the dog.”

[Easyrider]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

Are you sure you are a biker? Most bikers I ride with would far more prefer animals over people. Dogs are rarely rude and judgmental.

Owning a bike doesn't turn anyone into an animal fanatic.

Dogs are not rude, Tell that to the waitress in the link below that needed 300 stitches....thanks to a dog, I do value people over animals...every-time and especially those many children killed or that have their faces torn to pieces and scarred for life by an animal.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/1...d-worries.html

[wendyquat]

Frankly I DO like animals more than most people! They love without reservation and they don't SPOUT off with stupid ideas!

[CFrance]

[quote=Easyrider;773771]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Of course not since we choose to do it...it is OK...”

Huh? What does that have to do with my response (which you quoted), which was: " A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty."

[Easyrider]

Originally Posted by CFrance

A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

Sirens
A dog's mournful howling at sirens has been assumed to be triggered by pain, or at least, an unpleasant sensation.

Try getting some proof that it is animal cruelty and then post it.

Animal cruelty, NOT according to the experts..

Are dog whistles humane and safe for my 1 year german shepherd?
• David R asked 4 years ago
So I just got this dog from he pound last week. He's really kind and sweet but sometimes he can be a little rough and too playful. He sometimes jumps on me or even tries to bite me. He won listen when I yell stop or wag my finger in front of him, but I downloaded this dog whistle application on my phone and it really scares my dog when I use it. However, I wanna know if it is safe to use and if it wont permanently harm him or make him want to attack me and turn on me?!?!?


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Yes they are humane. So is Clicker Training. you can also get noise emitter collars that you activate by remote control when he is doing something he shouldn't be doing.

Dogs are happier when they know what their parameters are and have clear uncomplicated instructions from their owners.

Enroll in a novice obedience school....be active in being together and teaching him. Shepherds love to work and have tasks before them. They can be great dogs! Go for it.

Commit time for simple training everyday or walks. Have fun.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals. I am more than sickened by this whole thread .....

I agree Gracie. Some people actually think it is funny to hurt animals. Sad.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.
Psychological Reasons Behind Animal Abuse

Gracie, in my past life as an expert witness in child abuse, I learned that there are three such indicators of a sick mind in a child:
cruelty to animals
setting fires
self injury

This thread is the most distasteful I have read yet...that people sit around fantasizing how to make animals suffer. That is really sick.

[Easyrider]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I agree Gracie. Some people actually think it is funny to hurt animals. Sad.

Hurt animals, say what? Dragging them around where they don't belong is much worse but we justify it because that's what we want to do ...

[CFrance]

[quote=Easyrider;773779]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Try getting some proof of that and then post it.

Animal cruelty, NOT according to the experts..

Are dog whistles humane and safe for my 1 year german shepherd?
• David R asked 4 years ago
So I just got this dog from he pound last week. He's really kind and sweet but sometimes he can be a little rough and too playful. He sometimes jumps on me or even tries to bite me. He won listen when I yell stop or wag my finger in front of him, but I downloaded this dog whistle application on my phone and it really scares my dog when I use it. However, I wanna know if it is safe to use and if it wont permanently harm him or make him want to attack me and turn on me?!?!?


Reply
Yes they are humane. So is Clicker Training. you can also get noise emitter collars that you activate by remote control when he is doing something he shouldn't be doing.

Dogs are happier when they know what their parameters are and have clear uncomplicated instructions from their owners.

Enroll in a novice obedience school....be active in being together and teaching him. Shepherds love to work and have tasks before them. They can be great dogs! Go for it.

Commit time for simple training everyday or walks. Have fun.

It absolutely does hurt the dog's ears. The use of it to ward off a dog in attack mode is one thing; the use of it for purposes of amusing yourself at a restaurant is cruelty to animals.

[Easyrider]

[quote=CFrance;773788]

Originally Posted by Easyrider

It absolutely does hurt the dog's ears. The use of it to ward off a dog in attack mode is one thing; the use of it for purposes of amusing yourself at a restaurant is cruelty to animals.

Find some proof from a reliable source and post it.....

[CFrance]

[quote=Easyrider;773790]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Find some proof from a reliable source and post it.....

Just use bigger print...

[Easyrider]

[quote=CFrance;773792]

Originally Posted by Easyrider

Just use bigger print...

Can't seem to understand the regular print.....

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Easyrider

Hurt animals, say what? Dragging them around where they don't belong is much worse ...

"Where they don't belong" ... May I respectfully suggest that dog haters could just avoid restaurants that permit dogs on outside patios. If you see a dog, just leave! Problem solved. You have a choice of most restaurants where they're not permitted.

There are a few restaurants that welcome pets outside. It's just wrong to hurt innocent dogs when they're on patios where they are permitted.