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Old 02-13-2020, 10:00 PM
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Is a casino an option?????
A casino? You must be kidding. Who proposed that?

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Just the “wishful thinkers”, the same group that whine about a Costco not being two blocks away from them ......

The casino idea is probably not a bad one ...... they would be hugely successful, IMO .....
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The "RENT" that the Developer charges is a big factor. If someone (an entity) were to invest a lot of money, he'd have to get some substantial "relief" for the first few years. Furthermore, there are other factors on opening a business in the "older section".
That old saw is oft repeated. People in business will "get" what the traffic can bear. A non used building is a lot of money not making money. The developers are not dumb and know their business.

And it is a business. . I would have to guess they'd like to see it rented.
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That's what any landlord does--a customer of mine constructed an office building with several business suites, one of the suites was for the landlord-his suite had the best energy efficient lighting, insulation--the renters suites had no insulation, the cheapest fixtures, etc
That building is older and has been rented until lately. It isn't vacant because it has not been maintained. It isn't maintained now because it isn't rented.

Like Dew says. Economics 101.
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The "RENT" that the Developer charges is a big factor. If someone (an entity) were to invest a lot of money, he'd have to get some substantial "relief" for the first few years. Furthermore, there are other factors on opening a business in the "older section".
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Yeah I asked the same question in post 28.

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From what I have seen, the restaurants in the older sections do not do as well as the restaurants in the newer sections, younger residents seem to spend more
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From what I have seen, the restaurants in the older sections do not do as well as the restaurants in the newer sections, younger residents seem to spend more
If by "the older sections" you mean the Historical section, there is only one CC restaurant, Orange Blossom and that does quite well with us "older folk" here.

We hate it when you youngsters come here and disrupt our lifestyle.

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If by "the older sections" you mean the Historical section, there is only one CC restaurant, Orange Blossom and that does quite well with us "older folk" here.

We hate it when you youngsters come here and disrupt our lifestyle.

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That building is older and has been rented until lately. It isn't vacant because it has not been maintained. It isn't maintained now because it isn't rented.

Like Dew says. Economics 101.
Incorrect, look at what happened to the Santiago Rec Center. The developer sucks money out of a building and does minimal maintenance. I know the Sulieman's wanted to put a restaurant in there shortly after the previous owner vacated.T the cost to fix that place was just too much and the developer wouldn't work with them. The developer wanted to convert it into a Savannah like rec center so they can get cheap rental theater space to use. Thankful that the AAC shot that down
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If by "the older sections" you mean the Historical section, there is only one CC restaurant, Orange Blossom and that does quite well with us "older folk" here.

We hate it when you youngsters come here and disrupt our lifestyle.

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Most of the restaurants, bowling alleys, shopping etc etc are in the older sections and they just keep opening more especially on 466 and 441
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That building is older and has been rented until lately. It isn't vacant because it has not been maintained. It isn't maintained now because it isn't rented.

Like Dew says. Economics 101.
It is not rented now BECAUSE it has not been maintained! The landload is responsible for the maintenance of a buildIng he rents! He has not provided a building to rent that could be profitable because the renter is expected to remodel the building, pay high rent and no doubt share profits. No break in the rent either.

Wonder which CC will be next?
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Incorrect, look at what happened to the Santiago Rec Center. The developer sucks money out of a building and does minimal maintenance. I know the Sulieman's wanted to put a restaurant in there shortly after the previous owner vacated.T the cost to fix that place was just too much and the developer wouldn't work with them. The developer wanted to convert it into a Savannah like rec center so they can get cheap rental theater space to use. Thankful that the AAC shot that down
I don't agree with your assessment and don't recall any such interaction with the Suliemanns. Any business wants their buildings leased. The developer maintains infrastructure and buildings very well as we all can see. Many of the older restaurants in the earlier areas have closed and it is very possible it is because as people age they don't go out as much. Don't drink as much, simply don't financially support the restaurants in their neighborhoods.

Here is an old thread about El Santiago where people are complaining about five dollars to share an entrée and other issues. I think it is from 2007.

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In my humble opinion, for what's its worth, is that I would love to see a good restaurant in the location. But, I would rather see it stay closed than have a casino operating there. Casinos are not my thing, and from what I have observed, they cause more bad than good for the general population.
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There has been lots of talk about the need for repairs, updates, etc. to the building. Is this an actual fact? Or, is this in the same category as "the bridge over Lake Sumter is sinking" (not true, but enough people say it that is taken as fact by many)?
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