[Cisco Kid]

Originally Posted by RedChariot

You do not sound rationale. You scare me. No one is talking about hating dogs.

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What you feel in your heart about your hate I can't help you with.

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

As I noted it is useless to get involved in these never ending circles...always someone wanting to contradict anything and everything...it's the owner's behavior that causes and cultivates the problem. Actually it is better for the dogs to leave them alone sometimes like when going out to eat.

In my case, you are correct. My dog is too hyper to be in a restaurant setting. For many others (like my sons golden) She is a perfect pup when in a restaurant. A lot of dogs don't belong there, but for those that do....what a fun adventure. The type of dogs you may encounter here in TV are in most
cases....docile, very friendly, well groomed, behaved dogs.

Nobody commenting about the dogs has even seen a dog there. ( except the supposed lady with her dog in Toojays) I question this because the story shows up every time a thread about dogs in restaurants pops up.

Us dog lovers are no more contradictory than you dog haters.

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by gerryann

In my case, you are correct. My dog is too hyper to be in a restaurant setting. For many others (like my sons golden) She is a perfect pup when in a restaurant. A lot of dogs don't belong there, but for those that do....what a fun adventure. The type of dogs you may encounter here in TV are in most
cases....docile, very friendly, well groomed, behaved dogs.

Nobody commenting about the dogs has even seen a dog there. ( except the supposed lady with her dog in Toojays) I question this because the story shows up every time a thread about dogs in restaurants pops up.

Us dog lovers are no more contradictory than you dog haters.

Do we really think it is a fun adventure for the dog or is it the owner that has the fun adventure and thinks it was fun for the dog too? Most of the articles seem to say the dog would be happier at home. What does the "In most cases" statement about the dogs here really means what?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt as they say. Once again dog hater being used without any reason. Seems like the so called dog lovers are the ones getting all torn up over this issue because not everyone wants to have their dogs in their face even at restaurants.

Actually there are some good topics in this link if you scroll down to the bottom that would benefit most dog owners, especially those here..

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/articles/humandog.htm

From the link above:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/articles...tinctsdogs.htm

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Cisco Kid

You guys responding to these dog haters need to give it up.

I googled the dog hater , this is what it said.
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The typical Dog Hater has emotional problems. These folks are psychologically warped, and they will obsessively and aggressively provoke fights and retaliate against other people. They need to be in counselling, on medication, and behind bars. They are a danger to society, and have personality disorders.


This thread has ran hopelessly off course and needs to be closed.

ciscogoogle.com?

[Patty55]

I can't wait to try Square 1, right now it's a little too hot.

I have been at Cody's many times and have never seen a dog acting stupid. I've seen lots of children out of control, I've seen adults who drank too much but I've yet to see anyone mauled by a Maltese.

My dogs loved RJ Gators, they would sit by the railing and look at the water, never a problem.

I would say all the (IMO) control freaks who want to rule other people's lives and run businesses they don't own must be truly blessed that they have nothing more important to worry about.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

Do we really think it is a fun adventure for the dog or is it the owner that has the fun adventure and thinks it was fun for the dog too? Most of the articles seem to say the dog would be happier at home. What does the "In most cases" statement about the dogs here really means what?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt as they say. Once again dog hater being used without any reason. Seems like the so called dog lovers are the ones getting all torn up over this issue because not everyone wants to have their dogs in their face even at restaurants.

Actually there are some good topics in this link if you scroll down to the bottom that would benefit most dog owners, especially those here..

The Human Dog - Treating a Dog like a Human

From the link above:

Canine Feeding Instincts - how to feed your dog.

Did you even read these articles? They have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you should take your dog to a restaurant. It is about training the dog to be obedient to you as its pack leader. Nothing in these articles says don't take your dog to restaurants. And nothing even intimates that your dog is better off at home.

I wish dog bashers would stop pretending they know what my dog wants.

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

Do we really think it is a fun adventure for the dog or is it the owner that has the fun adventure? Most of the articles seem to say the dog would be happier at home. In most cases really means what?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt as they say. Once again dog hater being used without any reason. Seems like the so called dog lovers are the ones getting all torn up over this issue because not everyone wants to have their dogs in their face even at restaurants.

You make it sound as though this is a daily/nightly occurrence. When is the last time you saw a dog in a restaurant? I'll bet you never have, have you? I don't think anyone responding here on TOTV are responding because they want THEIR dog to be able to go there.....they are responding because this restaurant has gone to the trouble of following all laws/rules regarding this, but still have people like yourself trying to find reasons why it shouldn't happen...even though you have no personal experience with the situation. Someone is trying to do something good for a particular group here in TV and because you are not in that group, you have to find reasons to contradict it. We only want to applaud the restaurant for thinking of the dog owners and allowing them to do what they now are legally licensed to do. Since it doesn't negatively affect you, why are you so against it? You say not everyone wants a dog in their face? HUH??? Have you had a dog in your face?

[KeepingItReal]

[QUOTE=gerryann;900278]You make it sound as though this is a daily/nightly occurrence. When is the last time you saw a dog in a restaurant? I'll bet you never have, have you?

You would loose that bet. Witnessed a large dog on the sidewalk attack 2 dogs under a table at Johnny Rockets on the other side of the rail. Owners were totally surprised. Happened in a flash.

An old woman had a dog in a bag of some sort slipping it up to the table from the seat at an Italian Restaurant in Brownwood. Once they realized we all 4 had seen them they left in a hurry before the manager could get there. Another couple was immediately seated at the table.

There has to clear boundaries and still there are some that slip them in or get fake service credentials to try and get them in.

As far as following the rules you might note that Square One tried it without a permit first.

Most managers and employees are too scared to handle the problem...

Ridiculous that people who don't want dogs in restaurants are made out to be the bad guys when it is actually those with dogs not following the rules that cause the problems.





As a side note who will ensure this statement by SO CEO is always adhered too:

"We only serve them our people-quality chicken burger, with steamed broccoli, in stainless steel dog bowls. Both are cooked to the same standards of our two-legged guests. There is no ‘cross-contamination’ with people food because there is only high-quality people food in our kitchen."

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Did you even read these articles? They have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you should take your dog to a restaurant. It is about training the dog to be obedient to you as its pack leader. Nothing in these articles says don't take your dog to restaurants. And nothing even intimates that your dog is better off at home.

I wish dog bashers would stop pretending they know what my dog wants.

The articles all clearly explain why a dog should be treated like a dog and should not be treated like a human. That is the point....missed.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/articles...tinctsdogs.htm

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

There has to clear boundaries and still there are some that slip them in or get fake service credentials to try and get them in.



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I think the boundaries are quite clear, so are the options-both yours and mine.

I find it embarassing that out of all of Square 1's locations this is the only one with this problem. Sometimes I feel like I've landed in the Village of StupidVille. (I think it's right up the street from the Village of PretentiousBerg).

How many people were at Johnny Rocket's for the attack? So far we've had several witnesses, what was it a flashmob?

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

The articles all clearly explain why a dog should be treated like a dog and should not be treated like a human. That is the point....

Canine Feeding Instincts - how to feed your dog.

My dog is treated like a dog, MY DOG, not yours, not the six poor hunting dogs I saw crated in the back of a pickup in the blazing sun.

Oh, and once again your link has NOTHING to do with the ongoing conversation.

[KeepingItReal]

Gotta Love The Ignore Button

[CFrance]

[quote=KeepingItReal;900288]

Originally Posted by gerryann

You make it sound as though this is a daily/nightly occurrence. When is the last time you saw a dog in a restaurant? I'll bet you never have, have you?

You would loose that bet. Witnessed a large dog on the sidewalk attack 2 dogs under a table at Johnny Rockets on the other side of the rail. Owners were totally surprised. Happened in a flash.

An old woman had a dog in a bag of some sort slipping it up to the table from the seat at an Italian Restaurant in Brownwood. Once they realized we all 4 had seen them they left in a hurry before the manager could get there. Another couple was immediately seated at the table.

There has to clear boundaries and still there are some that slip them in or get fake service credentials to try and get them in.

As far as following the rules you might note that Square One tried it without a permit first.

Most managers and employees are too scared to handle the problem...

Ridiculous that people who don't want dogs in restaurants are made out to be the bad guys when it is actually those with dogs not following the rules that cause the problems.

The dog was on the sidewalk, not in the restaurant. the dogs in the restaurant were not causing the problem. So do you want all people should stay out of a restaurant because some drunk might come along the street and attack them?

And as for your dog articles, they have nothing to do with taking dogs out or not. Not anywhere in those articles does it say to leave your dog at home. That is your own projection. "Treating a dog like a dog and not a human" dealt with teaching them that you are in command and they are a pack. You obviously do not understand dog obedience training or handling..

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

Gotta Love The Ignore Button

I think you're incapable of ignoring.

[KeepingItReal]

[quote=CFrance;900297]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

The dog was on the sidewalk, not in the restaurant. the dogs in the restaurant were not causing the problem. So do you want all people should stay out of a restaurant because some drunk might come along the street and attack them?

And as for your dog articles, they have nothing to do with taking dogs out or not. Not anywhere in those articles does it say to leave your dog at home. That is your own projection. "Treating a dog like a dog and not a human" dealt with teaching them that you are in command and they are a pack. You obviously do not understand dog obedience training or handling..

They were on the patio.


I clearly knew this was a waste of time and yet......