[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Sal D

Here is a quick way of looking at it. Go to your kitchen and look @ the tiles on the floor (or anywhere you may have 12X12 tiles). next imagine paying $40 - 60 for each one. every month. Imagine that cost for the square footage of your home. then you will be able to understand how expensive rent alone is in the villages. Oh and did I forget to mention the 3 - 5% TV gets on your sales too.

Here we go again with the rent is too high to succeded in TV ....urban legend.

Once again all these businesses knew what the rent was going to be when they signed on the bottom line. To blame the rent for high prices is not the reason. To say TV gets 3-5% of sales is a myth for almost all the retailers renting in TV.
Yes most leases contain a clause that if sales excede a certain level...AGREED TO BY THE SIGNER OF THE LEASE!!!.....there is a graduated percentage of the amount over the estimate. The reason folks sign is because the estimated level of sales is so high that if the owner would ever hit that level they would be quite happy to pay TV or anybody else the so called 3-5%.

The rent being called the problem is usually third party or more hear say.....or an renting retailer that did not make it work adverizing that it was the rent that did it....they knew how much the rent was before going in....their business dream just did not pan out to be what they thought it would be!!!!

It ain't the rent!!!!!!!!!!!! Ask any of the ones that have been here since day one!!

btk

[buggyone]

Not too long ago, I was talking with the owner of City Fire and he told me of his many experiences of owning restaurants. He said the Developer is the second best landlord he has had in over 30 years. Speaks pretty good when a tenant gives that kind of a statement.

BTK is absolutely right. It is not the rent that causes some businesses to fail.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

I am not sure what the appeal of Bonefish is either rubi. It is just fine, but not exceptional IMHO. I have eaten at Bonefish in Des Moines, Kansas City, and TV and found no difference. Seems to me fresh seafood would be better, cheaper, and more available an hour away from either coast, but that's just me. I never hear anyone extolling the virtues of Red Lobster, but for my money it is just as good, less expensive, and easier to get seated than Bonefish. I am not knocking bonefish, just don't see why it is such a go-to destination for so many. By the way, if you like lobster, Lopez on Mondays, and NY Athens have very good lobster at great prices.

Hi coach: My feelings exactly and that was my point. I am not complaining about the prices anywhere in TV including bonefish.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

I too am a Midwesterner (Mo., Ks, ND, Mn) and I think the restaurant prices are comparable if not slightly cheaper in TV for similar food choices and ambience. Now the groceries are a different story. Publix is the most expensive regular grocery (not including Whole Foods or Fresh Market) that I have shopped. We do most of our grocery shopping at ALDI when in TV and save big time compared to Publix and even Wal Mart.

Hi again Coach: We go to ALDI's also for a number of items. I told my wife that one of these days I would be a spendthrift and forego by quarter and leave the shopping cart in the parking lot. Joking of course. as you will often see me pulling stray shopping carts backinto the store.

[collie1228]

We had a delicious dinner Friday at Red Sauce - Seafood Spaghetti in red clam sauce and Pan Seared Grouper with risotto, with two glasses of wine each. Total bill including tax and tip was a reasonable $62.00. Food and service were outstanding. We are heading for Key West this week and I'm betting we won't have anything better down there, but the prices will be at least 25% higher. We eat out at least twice a week and I think restaurant prices in TV are generally reasonable.

[jblum315]

Your restaurant tab in Key West is likely to be at least 50% higher. Gas too.

[keithwand]

Just had lunch at Bar Harbor in Harbor Springs, MI.
2 olive burgers with fries and 2 Fat Tire beers.
$40.00 dollars and Priceless.
Best burger this summer at The Boathouse in Traverse City.
$16.00 per and MMM.

[butterfly sue]

Just do some traveling up Pacific Northwest or Western Canada down to San Francisco and see what the prices are. We innocently went for breakfast to pay $5 for bacon each. Duh! We should have looked for the price. It was a small town in northern California. Food is reasonable here for what you get or the restaurant just doesn't stay in business. There are plenty of deals here too. Love the $5, $6 and $7 menu at Gators in LSL. So cut the coupons too! I love and dread everyone coming back. That means packed restaurants and for me, I just eat dinner by 4pm and seem to avoid that.

[rvrsnwbird]

I'm pleasantly pleased that the restaurants in the villages have higher standards (better food) than up in Ocala. Prices are the same just better food and service.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by rvrsnwbird

I'm pleasantly pleased that the restaurants in the villages have higher standards (better food) than up in Ocala. Prices are the same just better food and service.

Please specify which restaurants in Ocala you mean. Personally, I love Harry's Seafood in Ocala.

Here in The Villages, Glenview CC and Lopez CC are the two best restaurants.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Not too long ago, I was talking with the owner of City Fire and he told me of his many experiences of owning restaurants. He said the Developer is the second best landlord he has had in over 30 years. Speaks pretty good when a tenant gives that kind of a statement.

BTK is absolutely right. It is not the rent that causes some businesses to fail.

No, rent is not the reason that businesses fail, but high rent will contribute to higher prices. You are going to pay more for a cup of coffee outside the busiest subway station in the world than you are in the middle of nowhere Kansas. The other side of the coin is that the reason that the rents are higher is that people are wiling to pay more for that cup of coffee because of the convenience of the location.
Prices in Manhattan are higher than a lot of places because the rents are higher. And the millions of people that live and work there are willing to pay more. So, location also contributes to higher prices and higher rents.
If prices are set too high a business will fold. And, if they are set too low a business will also fold. Economic 101.

[zonerboy]

If you think restaurant prices are high here in the villages, travel on down to Disney Word and try to find a hamburger at a sit down restaurant for less than 15 bucks.