[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Whatnext

I worked as a first responder for many years. No one ever tipped us for saving their lives.

In 40 plus years after countless 13 hours of trauma surgery, not at any time did anyone in the room think they deserved a tip, for saving an infant, child, or adult.

We always thanked everyone in the room for their dedicated work, and sometimes a nod to what ever higher being you believed. We believed it was a team effort no matter the outcome. The hard moments always came in the waiting room full of family members.

[Number 10 GI]

I have watched ignorant, arrogant and entitled people treat wait staff so poorly that for no amount of money would I do that type of work. Not only do they have to wait tables they also have to clean the mess up after the customer leaves. I watched a family make such a mess at their table, it took 3 servers 10 minutes to clean up after the pigs.
I once worked in retail for a, thank God, brief time and I made the decision that I would only work that kind of job if I was starving.
I know in many other countries the tip is included in the meal price and in the past, it was usually 15%. If you receive terrible service, you still pay a 15% gratuity. With our system you can let the server know their performance was subpar by reducing the tip amount. It doesn't matter what system is used, you are going to pay a gratuity.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by jimhoward

For what its worth, servers in Villages restaurants make a lot more than $13/hour. More like $30. It is usual for a server working a double shift (lunch and dinner, 11-3, hour break, 4-9) to bring home $250 - $300/day in tips alone after paying out hosts and bussers. The hourly wage is on top of that. Some experienced servers that can handle more tables make more than that.

My data comes from two daughters who work at two different villages restaurants.

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Tell that to the people who used to work at Gator's Dockside. They got the "tipped employee" minimum (which was lower than the regular minimum). All tips were pooled for each shift, and the cooks and host got a share of the pool even though cooks and host were both paid the regular minimum.

Sometimes, servers would go home with just minimum wage, because another server might have earned NO tip at all, but they'd get an equal share of the tip pool. A bad server might not last long, but however long they did last, affected the pay of everyone else on the shift.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com

What happened to 15% for a tip? They have a built-in system of getting more money - when restaurants raise their prices the tip is raised too. But really I don’t like tipping. For example, we just had a mini-split put in our garage. The guy worked until 8 p.m. Should we have given him a tip? How much?

The idea that some people get tipped and others don’t is bizarre.

You can if you want to, but they aren't "tipped employees." It's an actual category in the Federal Labor Department laws, and in every state that has a labor department (Florida does not have a labor department).

Tipped employees can be paid less than minimum wage, as long as their total pay including tips comes to minimum wage or higher.

So if minimum wage is $15/hour - and tipped minimum is $10/hour...

Then if you work your shift and combine your tips for the shift with your $10/hour pay, and it comes to only $13/hour total...then your boss has to kick in the other $2/hour, for a total of $12/hour.

If you work your shift and the combined total comes to $15/hour, then your boss only has to pay you that $10/hour.

If you work your shift and the combined total comes to $50/hour, then your boss still has to pay you that $10/hour.

[Rainger99]

A lot of people see it as out of control.

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[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

When the wife and I eat out, exactly who am I trying to impress when tipping?

The server? Someone I'll probably never see again or have them remember me that next time I dine there?

I've been lucky enough to have made a good living for the last 40 years. I have no problem sharing some of that. During Covid, I tipped like Ray Liotta in Goodfellas... Why? Because I could. And because those I tipped were having a hard time making ends meet due to Covid restrictions.

Oh, and I don't believe in heaven (just like you don't)...

And you know as well as I do, and as well as everyone else does, that the pandemic and shut-downs was an unusual circumstance. Most people were out of work entirely, and those who were working in tipped service positions were taking huge risks, and dealing with insane employee shortages because many quit or were too sick to work (or died).

During normal times (which we have now, thankfully), overtipping can be (not always, but can be) harmful to the employee's bottom line, and healthy for the employer's bottom line. This is completely reverse to the intention of tipping.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

A lot of people see it as out of control.

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Absolutely out of control imho. What started as a "thanks, keep the change" Gratuity has morphed into cost saving for business pushed onto customers to cover what should be covered under business expenses/wages. When and why did this happen? Make one wonder how some can keep the lights on.

[Cuervo]

Let's do a little math $13 X 8Hrs. = $104.
Assuming the person works 5 days a week that comes out to $520.
Let's all assume since in today's world $520 a week is not a living wage, the person deiced not to take a vacation.
So, a person working for $13 an hour working 52 weeks a year will earn $27,040.
That is not a living wage that is why I always leave a tip.

[pkfavreau2]

Originally Posted by stratmax

Because the restaurant now has to pay the server a minimum of $9.98 instead of the $2.13/hr they've increased the menu prices.
This being the case, I've reduced the amount that I'm now tipping. What irritates me is they still have the 18, 20, 25% tip suggestions at the bottom of the receipt.

You try living these day on $15 per hour!

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Cuervo

Let's do a little math $13 X 8Hrs. = $104.
Assuming the person works 5 days a week that comes out to $520.
Let's all assume since in today's world $520 a week is not a living wage, the person deiced not to take a vacation.
So, a person working for $13 an hour working 52 weeks a year will earn $27,040.
That is not a living wage that is why I always leave a tip.

Do you leave the same tip at McDonald's or Wendy's where the employees make the same amount?

[wsachs]

Originally Posted by Whatnext

I worked as a first responder for many years. No one ever tipped us for saving their lives.

I'm assuming you received health care, vision, dental, a pension or 401K, and paid vacations. I also assume none of the restaurant workers around TV or FL for that matter get any of those benefits. Most restaurant workers don't even get 40 hrs per week as then their employer would have to pay them additional benefits.

[Nordhagen]

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[LonnyP]

The tips are not built into the prices everywhere. Have you seen them broken down on your receipts? It is amazing sitting back in this community and watching the old misers under tip, I feel bad for those servers. No wonder why it is so hard to get help in the services industry.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by LonnyP

The tips are not built into the prices everywhere. Have you seen them broken down on your receipts? It is amazing sitting back in this community and watching the old misers under tip, I feel bad for those servers. No wonder why it is so hard to get help in the services industry.

Tips are optional. If they are built in to the menu price, they are not tips.

[Andyb]

Originally Posted by stratmax

Have you noticed the food prices in restaurants have gone up dramatically. I'm not sure everybody knows this but last fall, 2024. Florida enacted a law mandating restaurants pay a base wage of $9.98 to their wait staff and a guarantee of $13/hour when combined with the tips.The law gave restaurants time to change their menu prices so they could pay the base wage.
So, why are we continuing to pay 20% tip when there is already a built in tip in the menu prices?
NOTE: the base wage is also going to go up to $10.98 this fall

Yep, started about 4-1/2 years ago.