[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by TomOB

I just looked at Jersey Mikes franchise page and there is no franchise available for this area. I guess the point is moot and rumors expanded on TOTV again.

I want to HUG you.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by TomOB

I just looked at Jersey Mikes franchise page and there is no franchise available for this area. I guess the point is moot and rumors expanded on TOTV again.

That may be because they already nixed the Brownwood due to the square footage requirement. Why would the people at the present Jersey Mike's have even asked about Brownwood if there were no franchises available? Perhaps they were going to move their location to Brownwood?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by John_W

Yesterday while at Jersey Mike's in front of Target getting my sub fix, while in line the manager asked me, where you headed next. I said to the MVP gym, he said over here next to Gator's Dockside. I said no, they opened another MVP at Brownwood, and there is also a new Gator's Dockside at Brownwood.

He said we talked to The Villages about putting a store at Brownwood, and they said how much space do you need, I told them 1200 sf, we don't need a lot. They said for the time being, they aren't renting out anything under 2000 sf. Then they asked about Pinellas Plaza, and they were told that Subway is already there and has a non-compete clause.

Sounds like TV has some funny business practices turning down a successful franchise that would bring a lot of foot traffic. I hope they can get into the new Publix shopping center before Subway.

Also, I noticed that 'Outback' had a sign 'now open everyday at 11am', so you don't have to wait until the weekend to get lunch there.

I again say, it doesn't sound like "funny business" just business. A non compete clause is GOOD business. There are many geographic Franchise restrictions too. Large successful companies will not sell their product to everyone who wants their product. That is how it's done. The Villages commercial probably rents to people who have a good history of paying their bills and have shown that they can survive in this business climate. We want everything, but we are on a "fixed income". Yup. We seniors are somewhat challenging.

No conspiracy theory here. Just plain old business and economics one oh one.

[NottaVillager]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

I don't know the exact number but it's something like 90% of all restaurant start-ups fail within the first 2 years.

The old joke: "How do you make a million dollars with a restaurant? Start with 2 million!"

That old joke also applies to being a farmer.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by TomOB

I just looked at Jersey Mikes franchise page and there is no franchise available for this area. I guess the point is moot and rumors expanded on TOTV again.

I talked to the manager, and he definitely said they've talked to TV about Brownwood, why would he lie about that or I lie about that? It's my best guess that the area of TV is not available because the current franchise already owns the area. They're not as big as Subway or McDonalds with thousands of locations and franchise can be as little as two miles apart. Part of the current franchise deal was probably not to allow other Jersey Mike's into competition in TV's.

I have no problem with TV turning down Jersey Mike's at Pinellas Plaza because of Subway, my problem is turning down Jersey Mike's at Brownwood because they only wanted 1200sf. There are a lot of vacant storefronts, maybe a couple of years from now they will change their tune. Remember, Lake Sumter opened in 2007 but Panera's didn't movie in until 2011. Brownwood may take a few years to fill all those vacant spots.

The Villages commercial probably rents to people who have a good history of paying their bills and have shown that they can survive in this business climate.

Maybe you should go over to Jersey Mike's and see for yourself. There is a line in that place anytime of the day. They make Subway look small. I've eaten at Jersey Mike's all over the state, my neighbor said he even ate at one in Las Vegas. They are an up and coming franchise and every location I've been in is always crowded. Maybe TV rental dept did as much research as you did.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by John_W

I talked to the manager, and he definitely said they've talked to TV about Brownwood, why would he lie about that or I lie about that? It's my best guess that the area of TV is not available because the current franchise already owns the area. They're not as big as Subway or McDonalds with thousands of locations and franchise can be as little as two miles apart. Part of the current franchise deal was probably not to allow other Jersey Mike's into competition in TV's.

I have no problem with TV turning down Jersey Mike's at Pinellas Plaza because of Subway, my problem is turning down Jersey Mike's at Brownwood because they only wanted 1200sf. There are a lot of vacant storefronts, maybe a couple of years from now they will change their tune. Remember, Lake Sumter opened in 2007 but Panera's didn't movie in until 2011. Brownwood may take a few years to fill all those vacant spots.



Maybe you should go over to Jersey Mike's and see for yourself. There is a line in that place anytime of the day. They make Subway look small. I've eaten at Jersey Mike's all over the state, my neighbor said he even ate at one in Las Vegas. They are an up and coming franchise and every location I've been in is always crowded. Maybe TV rental dept did as much research as you did.

I am going to. You posted on here before about it and it sounds yummy. and I keep forgetting to try it. What is your favorite again?

[TomOB]

Why would Jersey Mike's franchise page lie? Jersey Mike's Subs - 5 - Where can you open a Jersey Mike?s Subs Sandwich Franchise? Anyone can look it up.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by John_W

Remember, Lake Sumter opened in 2007 but Panera's didn't movie in until 2011.

Panara's current spot in LSL was not vacant from 2007 to 2011. It was occupied by a TV owned cafe joint (don't remember the name - sorry).

[OpusX1]

Originally Posted by TomOB

Why would Jersey Mike's franchise page lie? Jersey Mike's Subs - 5 - Where can you open a Jersey Mike?s Subs Sandwich Franchise? Anyone can look it up.

A franchise is not necessarily a single location, more like a territory, the existing franchisee may elect to have more than one store in their territory. Before I retired my partners and I had a Wendy's franchise, in our case our territory was the entire county, we started out with one store but had four stores after six years. Some franchise's have different territories, it could be a metropolitan area or an entire state, it just depends on the contract between the Corporation offering the franchise and the franchisee. That contract always favors the corporation.

[obxgal]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Panara's current spot in LSL was not vacant from 2007 to 2011. It was occupied by a TV owned cafe joint (don't remember the name - sorry).

It was the Veranda and I sure do miss it.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by obxgal

It was the Veranda and I sure do miss it.

Thanks - yes that's it and I did go there often when I visited.

[mulligan]

Originally Posted by CFrance

That may be because they already nixed the Brownwood due to the square footage requirement. Why would the people at the present Jersey Mike's have even asked about Brownwood if there were no franchises available? Perhaps they were going to move their location to Brownwood?

How about the current franchise owner is protected in one or more counties.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by mulligan

How about the current franchise owner is protected in one or more counties.

I don't know. It was the current store whose manager told OP that they talked to the developer about opening a tore in Brownwood. Why would he do that if there were no franchises available? Maybe if you already have a franchise, you've got permission to buy another?

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by Bonny

I'm not crazy about Jersey Mike's subs. I thought they were very skimpy on the meat and cheese. Rather have Publix or Winn Dixie. I must say, for the price, I do like Subway.

When traveling we always stop at subway for lunch. Plenty of them on interstates and a whole lot more healthy than Burger King or McDonalds.

[CFrance]

I like Subway too. We sometimes stop there while traveling with the pets. One of us goes in & the other stays with the pets, walks the dog. My husband went in and ordered my BLT on honey whole wheat. They said what do you want on it? He said No cheese, lite mayo. When I got the sandwich, it had bacon, mayo, and nothing else! I mean, doesn't a BLT automatically come with L & T???

Sorry...off topic.