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Old 08-18-2025, 02:02 PM
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Suppose you are 75 yrs +, kids grown, have owned a patio villa, tenant moved out, and you're thinking of selling it. But what next ? and where ? Put proceeds in the bank ? Look in North Carolina ? Roll it over.. 1031 ...into another rental home? A different 55+ community like Margaritaville or James Plantation? Donation to MSPCA? Simplify life and put it in an S&P index fund ? Always enjoy the intelligent comments of the forum.
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Old 08-18-2025, 02:06 PM
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how about trading into an UPREIT?

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Old 08-18-2025, 02:15 PM
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If I were 75+ there is no way I would want to own RE outside my primary residence. Unfortunately only you can define your goals. If you don’t need the money then you could donate it to charity, or travel, invest and make it part of your estate. It really depends on your financial wellbeing and what your goals are at this point in your life.
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I have never liked REITs ever since I actually read the prospectus for one of them. The best way to make money with an REIT is to start one yourself. You pay yourself a huge salary as the CEO, and hire your friends, like an attorney, an accountant, a real estate agent, etc. and pay them big salaries. Then, you hire a stock broker to sell shares and you invest the money in real estate. If you lose money on the real estate, so what, you still get your salary and expenses and make a lot of friends happy. And, as long as you do what it says in the prospectus, you have no accountability for losing money. It's a great deal for you.
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Old 08-18-2025, 04:37 PM
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The real estate market is soft right now. It might not be all that easy to sell. If you can easily find another long term tenant, using whatever means you used to get the current one, then I would consider doing that.

If you decide to sell instead fine, it is certainly less headache than having a tenant. I would not then turn around and buy another rental property. You would suffer transaction costs and be no better off. I definitely would not buy a remotely located rental property. Then you are into an expensive management company and you will make no money.

In terms of what to do with the proceeds, I am not sure anyone can advise you intelligently without out knowing your financial situation and the asset classes of the rest of your portfolio.

Lets say for the purposes of discussion that the PV is owned free-and-clear and worth $300K. And lets neglect taxes for a moment. How much of your total investment portfolio does that represent? 1%, 10% 50% ?. If its 1%, then do whatever you feel like.....have fun If its 10% then look for an overall balance between real estate, stocks bonds etc. You do an asset allocation. If its 50%, then you put it in money markets and draw a few percent per year to help with living expenses.
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I have never liked REITs ever since I actually read the prospectus for one of them. The best way to make money with an REIT is to start one yourself. You pay yourself a huge salary as the CEO, and hire your friends, like an attorney, an accountant, a real estate agent, etc. and pay them big salaries. Then, you hire a stock broker to sell shares and you invest the money in real estate. If you lose money on the real estate, so what, you still get your salary and expenses and make a lot of friends happy. And, as long as you do what it says in the prospectus, you have no accountability for losing money. It's a great deal for you.
Gee, that's too bad. CUBE, which I bought 2/24/2009 @$1.63/share is up only 2,299.78% since then according to my Vanguard statement today. Of course it has paid great dividends over the years.
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Gee, that's too bad. CUBE, which I bought 2/24/2009 @$1.63/share is up only 2,299.78% since then according to my Vanguard statement today. Of course it has paid great dividends over the years.
I commend you for being successful. But, if I were 40 years younger, I would create my own REIT, and make a ton of money.
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Suppose you are 75 yrs +, kids grown, have owned a patio villa, tenant moved out, and you're thinking of selling it. But what next ? and where ? Put proceeds in the bank ? Look in North Carolina ? Roll it over.. 1031 ...into another rental home? A different 55+ community like Margaritaville or James Plantation? Donation to MSPCA? Simplify life and put it in an S&P index fund ? Always enjoy the intelligent comments of the forum.
Buy land and donate it to Ducks Unlimited or Pheasants Unlimited or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. Protect every acre you can from scumbag developers.
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We sold our rental villa 4 years ago when I was 75. I gave the check to my wife and she bought high yield CD's with it with one year to go and I told her when they mature it's my turn and I think I'll just spend it and then learn to live alone.
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Buy a gold miner ETF and some physical coin held by you. Thank me later.
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Well, I’m only 63. And my long-term tenant has moved out of my villa and I currently have it up for sale.
Two bedroom located on the Water if anybody is interested
And I’m selling it cheaper than I bought it for so I don’t have to worry about taxes and nor am I reinvesting
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Buy land and donate it to Ducks Unlimited or Pheasants Unlimited or Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. Protect every acre you can from scumbag developers.
Has ducks unlimited actually bought property and protected it? If so where?
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Suppose you are 75 yrs +, kids grown, have owned a patio villa, tenant moved out, and you're thinking of selling it. But what next ? and where ? Put proceeds in the bank ? Look in North Carolina ? Roll it over.. 1031 ...into another rental home? A different 55+ community like Margaritaville or James Plantation? Donation to MSPCA? Simplify life and put it in an S&P index fund ? Always enjoy the intelligent comments of the forum.
Roll it over in a 1031 investment. Let them invest and have the headaches, you save big on taxes, but ties up your money for a little while.
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Suppose you are 75 yrs +, kids grown, have owned a patio villa, tenant moved out, and you're thinking of selling it. But what next ? and where ? Put proceeds in the bank ? Look in North Carolina ? Roll it over.. 1031 ...into another rental home? A different 55+ community like Margaritaville or James Plantation? Donation to MSPCA? Simplify life and put it in an S&P index fund ? Always enjoy the intelligent comments of the forum.
Also not knowing your financial situation in life…
Give one third to your grown-up kids, put 1/3 in stocks and bonds, use the last 1/3 to get some really nice stuff you always wanted or go see places you’ve always wanted to see.
At 75 you’re a little bit past halfway to the finish line. 😇
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There have been years when REITs (Real Estate Investment Trusts) have outperformed the market substantially and years when it has underperformed by a long ways. If you don’t know what they will do in the next year, be very careful.

REITs have done a lot of good by buying up hundreds of thousands of marginal homes, fixing them up, and reselling to new buyers or renting to people who want to rent homes or apartments or condos. Granted. However, they also introduced apps with algorithms that make sure they ask the top dollar they can get. When the houses nearby match that, they ask for more. The effect is for rentals and home prices to go up much faster than normal because everyone using these apps are on the same page.

Because REITs control millions of houses and apartments, their effect is huge. Thus, it can be argued that despite the good REITs have done, they are responsible for a large share of the huge rise in housing and rental prices across the country. Many renters have seen increases of $500 a month or more at once, then found that most of the other rental units in town have done the same. Okay, great for investors, but a lot of the homelessness today is due to renters being forced onto the streets because they certainly aren’t getting $500 a month raises to make up the difference.
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