[NavyCO]

Every so called patriotic villager should read the Code of Federal Regulations (passed by Congress) on how the Flag is to be handled, stored, cared for and most importantly "displayed" as it our source of pride. There are some in The Villages, that neither respect the Flag, nor care about it one put up on pole in their yards. I start off this forum discussion by posting of a FLAG not only improperly display in Hadley, but in such disrepair, it is a disgrace. This so called American is seems more proud of his Heritage than being an American. I suggest all of you that carry a CAMERA to get out and take a picture and post it here, but to also go up to the door of such people and tell them how they are disrespecting the flag, and our country.--a proud Navy VET. The homeowner featured hear considers himself to be a "South African" because under law--of this great land--you CANNOT fly the flag of another nation directly beneath the American Flag. It MUST be on another entirely different pole!

[BobnBev]

good job there Navy!!!!!!

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by NavyCO

Every so called patriotic villager should read the Code of Federal Regulations (passed by Congress) on how the Flag is to be handled, stored, cared for and most importantly "displayed" as it our source of pride. There are some in The Villages, that neither respect the Flag, nor care about it one put up on pole in their yards. I start off this forum discussion by posting of a FLAG not only improperly display in Hadley, but in such disrepair, it is a disgrace. This so called American is seems more proud of his Heritage than being an American. I suggest all of you that carry a CAMERA to get out and take a picture and post it here, but to also go up to the door of such people and tell them how they are disrespecting the flag, and our country.--a proud Navy VET. The homeowner featured hear considers himself to be a "South African" because under law--of this great land--you CANNOT fly the flag of another nation directly beneath the American Flag. It MUST be on another entirely different pole!

Exactly what did the homeowner say to you when you told him of his error?

[dmerz2]

Originally Posted by NavyCO

Every so called patriotic villager should read the Code of Federal Regulations (passed by Congress) on how the Flag is to be handled, stored, cared for and most importantly "displayed" as it our source of pride. There are some in The Villages, that neither respect the Flag, nor care about it one put up on pole in their yards. I start off this forum discussion by posting of a FLAG not only improperly display in Hadley, but in such disrepair, it is a disgrace. This so called American is seems more proud of his Heritage than being an American. I suggest all of you that carry a CAMERA to get out and take a picture and post it here, but to also go up to the door of such people and tell them how they are disrespecting the flag, and our country.--a proud Navy VET. The homeowner featured hear considers himself to be a "South African" because under law--of this great land--you CANNOT fly the flag of another nation directly beneath the American Flag. It MUST be on another entirely different pole!

Thank you Navy - from a USAF Viet Nam DAV. Unfortunately we see a lot of improper displays. DBM

[Pepperhead]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

good job there Navy!!!!!!

Thirty-four years USAF here. I would have spoken to the occupant of the house and offered to help them set up their display properly vs calling them out on the internet.

Flag Code

This is a link that explains proper etiquette with the American flag. Nowhere do I see that another flag cannot be flown on the same pole.I have the Massachusetts state flag on my pole below the American flag. I try to follow all the rules when it comes to displaying our flag . I illuminate it at night, take it down in inclement weather ,and make sure that when it becomes tattered it is replaced. I take my old flags to an American legion or a V.F.W to be disposed of properly. I NEVER allow any flag I'm handling to touch the ground. This is a pet peeve of mine. There are too many flags on sticks around the Villages that are displayed around patriotic holidays that are allowed to touch the ground!!

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan

Flag Code


This is a link that explains proper etiquette with the American flag. Nowhere do I see that another flag cannot be flown on the same pole.I have the Massachusetts state flag on my pole below the American flag.

stuff cut by Alan!

Check out 7 G from your link.

Added later: When I use the acronym OP here it is for original post. I have no issue with the original poster .....


That said , I really do not like the OP of this thread. Intent means so much to a subject like this IMO. That flag is borderline tattered. A flag is considered tattered when it no longer fits to serve as a symbol of the US. This does not meet that for me. For all I know that person is a HUGE patriot, flying a flag from when his son died for this country for as long as it is acceptable. How would I know?

The fact that someone flies another countries flag under the USA flag does not mean that person is not a patriot. They may simply have made a mistake. In fact, if I understand it, it disrespects the other country more that the US. It should not be done in a time of peace.

The OP makes assertions in about this person (I do not know this person) to open this thread that are not substantiated IMO, and to put the person’s address in the post is wrong without understanding the facts.

Just my opinion.

Do not take this post as I condone any disrespect to the US flag in any way.

[Villager Joyce]

Please judge me for what is in my heart, not that I have "flags on sticks" in my flower beds. I am an American. I love my country.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan

Flag Code



This is a link that explains proper etiquette with the American flag. Nowhere do I see that another flag cannot be flown on the same pole.I have the Massachusetts state flag on my pole below the American flag. I try to follow all the rules when it comes to displaying our flag . I illuminate it at night, take it down in inclement weather ,and make sure that when it becomes tattered it is replaced. I take my old flags to an American legion or a V.F.W to be disposed of properly. I NEVER allow any flag I'm handling to touch the ground. This is a pet peeve of mine. There are too many flags on sticks around the Villages that are displayed around patriotic holidays that are allowed to touch the ground!!

Thank you for noting some of the ways in which a flag should be (or not) flown. I am a member of the Sons of the American Revolution. We try to recognize those who fly the flag properly.

If any Villager believes they know someone who flies the colors properly, please provide me the individual's address. I will monitor the flag and recommend a certificate for those doing so properly.

God bless our veterans and service members this Memorial Day weekend

[Carl in Tampa]

I tend to agree with ajbrown about the inappropriateness of posting the address where the flags are being flown contrary to the Flag Code. It smacks of Vigilantism.

I also doubt if many people in The Villages were aware of the rule regarding flying the flags of two nations on one flagpole. It could be that the violator, seeing flagpoles flying the U.S. flag with state flags, military service flags and P.O.W. flags had no idea that he was violating the Flag Code.

As a practical matter I doubt that HOA rules would permit the installation of two flagpoles in the homeowner's yard.

My personal preference is for no other flag to be flown from the same halyard as the U.S. Flag.

How many readers of this post have ever complained to a university or NFL football team about the unfurling of a giant USA flag over the field during half-time exercises? It is a violation of the Flag Code to carry a US flag flat or horizontally. (8 c.)

How many vets reading this post are aware of a change in the law that now authorizes serving military not in uniform and all veterans to render the military hand salute during the passing, raising or lowering of the US flag and the playing of the National Anthem?

To help put this in perspective, I was in a foreign country several years ago when preparations were being made for a Forth of July celebration in the American Embassy. Workers were about to hang a flag vertically against a wall and they asked the Ambassador where the blue field should be located. He got it wrong!

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[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Thank you for noting some of the ways in which a flag should be (or not) flown. I am a member of the Sons of the American Revolution. We try to recognize those who fly the flag properly.

If any Villager believes they know someone who flies the colors properly, please provide me the individual's address. I will monitor the flag and recommend a certificate for those doing so properly.

God bless our veterans and service members this Memorial Day weekend

I joined the Sons of the American Revolution many decades ago through the Louisiana Chapter in New Orleans. They were not very active and I had little contact with them.

Is there an active local chapter in this area?

Carl

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

I joined the Sons of the American Revolution many decades ago through the Louisiana Chapter in New Orleans. They were not very active and I had little contact with them.



Is there an active local chapter in this area?



Carl

Yes. It is called the Lake Sumter chapter and meets at the John Pella American Legion post in Fruitland Park on the first Saturday of the month at 11:00 AM. I am the treasurer and we would be honored to have you join us

On the web, search for the Lake Sumter Chapter, Sons of the American Revolution.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

Check out 7 G from your link.

Added later: When I use the acronym OP here it is for original post. I have no issue with the original poster .....


That said , I really do not like the OP of this thread. Intent means so much to a subject like this IMO. That flag is borderline tattered. A flag is considered tattered when it no longer fits to serve as a symbol of the US. This does not meet that for me. For all I know that person is a HUGE patriot, flying a flag from when his son died for this country for as long as it is acceptable. How would I know?

The fact that someone flies another countries flag under the USA flag does not mean that person is not a patriot. They may simply have made a mistake. In fact, if I understand it, it disrespects the other country more that the US. It should not be done in a time of peace.

The OP makes assertions in about this person (I do not know this person) to open this thread that are not substantiated IMO, and to put the person’s address in the post is wrong without understanding the facts.

Just my opinion.

Do not take this post as I condone any disrespect to the US flag in any way.

Yea, this is about how I feel about it. Not only that, but there are hundreds of people who don't fly the flag at all and we're picking on someone who doesn't do it exactly as specified. The fact that he makes an effort to fly it says to me that he loves his country.

[bimmertl]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Yea, this is about how I feel about it. Not only that, but there are hundreds of people who don't fly the flag at all and we're picking on someone who doesn't do it exactly as specified. The fact that he makes an effort to fly it says to me that he loves his country.

Great point. A person flies the flag, and it's not up to "code" and the critics weigh in. Get over it!

No doubt it's not hundreds, but thousands, who don't fly a flag, so what.

What's next, caps and hats in doors. It's not 1950 any more folks!

[Indydealmaker]

I am sure that many people do not know that the Code of Federal Regulations relative to the handling and display of the U.S. Flag is not a law. It is merely a recommendation.

I feel that Congress should make a law that can be enforced relative to the more egregious intentional violations ie., hanging flag upside down; hanging another flag above ours; deliberate destruction, etc.