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Old 06-10-2015, 03:04 PM
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Maybe something from an non USA news source will get the attention of some of the negative responders:

Isis's dirty bomb: Jihadists have seized 'enough radioactive material to build their first WMD' - Middle East - World - The Independent

Unlike the USA they in fact do have a strategy and are not timid about it's aggressive pusuit of their intention. They have a complimentary strategy working for the as well....USA do nothing approach to ISIS.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:16 PM
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I believe they absolutely have a strategy unlike the U.S. to convert us all or kill us which they are succeeding in. Very sad to see adults who still don't get it and kids to wrapped up in ipads., cell phones, etc to even give a dam. Perhaps after the next attack, but then its too late if you've lost your child. There's no going back. So for those who still have their heads buried, God help you. They Are coming
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Old 06-10-2015, 05:09 PM
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The Left-wingers on this board will call people names (warmonger), ask if you want your kids to go to war and make other equally inane comments.

Their strategy is quite clear ... wait until when a nuke finally goes off in the US, and then chose between two options:

1. All out war (this time to win, not to lose) similar to WWII, or

2. Get a prayer rug and convert to Islam (which I honestly believe some on this board would choose if that's what it came down to)
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Old 06-14-2015, 03:38 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen. Boots on the ground won't win this one. Do you think a nuclear weapon is necessary to disrupt life in America? This is the 21st century. Access to the internet can screw up everything that matters. ISIS is fighting a new war. Ask any military person who has been to and fought in the Middle East what is going on. This isn't you fathers version of warfare.
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Ladies and gentlemen. Boots on the ground won't win this one. Do you think a nuclear weapon is necessary to disrupt life in America? This is the 21st century. Access to the internet can screw up everything that matters. ISIS is fighting a new war. Ask any military person who has been to and fought in the Middle East what is going on. This isn't you fathers version of warfare.
It sort of looks like old fashioned warfare to the hunreds and thousands who are back minus any number of limbs.....are these the ones you are suggesting we ask about the type war they lost their limbs in?

Is the beheading and slaughtering of women and children a sign of the sophistication you are crediting the meidevil killers with?

Cut the BS on the continual reference to a "past" warfare....the inference that ISIS is a 21st century technical power is just plain nonsense.
Keep them in the class they are...rag tag radical Muslims out to kill or maim anybody that does not match up to their evil roots.

New war my
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My stance remains the same as to boots on the ground. Reinstate the draft so that we all share in the sacrifice and then we will talk.

I did find a segment on one of the weekly Sunday news shows run a clip about the Iraq military militia saying they will kill any American soldier they find on Iraqi soil.
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My stance remains the same as to boots on the ground. Reinstate the draft so that we all share in the sacrifice and then we will talk.

I did find a segment on one of the weekly Sunday news shows run a clip about the Iraq military militia saying they will kill any American soldier they find on Iraqi soil.
I agree with reinstating the draft. I think that, after a nuke takes out an American city and people are shocked back into the real world (vs the virtual fun world that many live in), that it will be reinstated. We will then do what it takes to wipe out ISIS and Radical Islam ... destroying cities in Syria an Iraq, and everyone who lives there if need be.

Every generation or two seems to need to learn it the hard way ...
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I agree with reinstating the draft. I think that, after a nuke takes out an American city and people are shocked back into the real world (vs the virtual fun world that many live in), that it will be reinstated. We will then do what it takes to wipe out ISIS and Radical Islam ... destroying cities in Syria an Iraq, and everyone who lives there if need be.

Every generation or two seems to need to learn it the hard way ...
With all due respect, I am afraid you hit a nerve with the NUKE comment. I still have Sec of State Rice's voice running in my ears with her "mushroom cloud" comment on the Sunday news shows.

Heard this argument before........
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With all due respect, I am afraid you hit a nerve with the NUKE comment. I still have Sec of State Rice's voice running in my ears with her "mushroom cloud" comment on the Sunday news shows.

Heard this argument before........
No problem ... suggest you simply continue to ignore or disbelieve the threat of a nuclear attack and simply wait until it happens. As I said, that's what it's going to take anyway to finally wake the country up. It would be preferable to prevent, rather than (over)react, but denial seems to be hardwired into the DNA of our democratic republic.

The one thing I would add ... ISIS is not the only threat of nuclear jihad as Iran is clearly in that threat category as well.
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With all due respect, I am afraid you hit a nerve with the NUKE comment. I still have Sec of State Rice's voice running in my ears with her "mushroom cloud" comment on the Sunday news shows.

Heard this argument before........
Why would you make fun of people like this.....for what point ? Just childish play with your friends ?

Mocking anyones fear is a bit weird don't you think ? It is the basis for real fear and different degrees for others and you mock it, as if it were impossible. Based on your posts, you have no idea of what you are speaking of.

I really have trouble understanding an adult making fun of a real threat to the country and mocking posters who agree with that ?

Late last year, the British HomE Secretary was quoted as saying that all ISIS needs to do is consolidate the land and....well here is the quote...

"British Home Secretary Theresa May warned that if ISIS consolidates its control over the land it occupies, “We will see the world’s first truly terrorist state” with “the space to plot attacks against us.”

"Its seizure of banks and oil fields gave it more than $2 billion in assets. If ISIS could make the right connection to corrupt officials in Russia or Pakistan, the group might be able to buy enough highly enriched uranium (about 50 pounds) and the technical help to build a crude nuclear device. Militants recruited from Europe or America could help smuggle it into their home nations.

Or ISIS could try to build a “dirty bomb,” conventional explosives like dynamite laced with highly radioactive materials. The blast would not kill many directly, but it would force the evacuation of tens of square blocks contaminated with radioactive particles."


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1958855

We have seen that consolidation begin in Iraq, Syria and even in Africa, so your mockery of the other posters is sort of up for its own mocking.
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No problem ... suggest you simply continue to ignore or disbelieve the threat of a nuclear attack and simply wait until it happens. As I said, that's what it's going to take anyway to finally wake the country up. It would be preferable to prevent, rather than (over)react, but denial seems to be hardwired into the DNA of our democratic republic.

The one thing I would add ... ISIS is not the only threat of nuclear jihad as Iran is clearly in that threat category as well.
IRAN is a huge threat, perhaps not as immediate but if the reports we hear are correct, we are not negotiating NO nukes...but instead of..delayed nukes. In other words, it appears that we will allow it but make them wait.

IF that is true, do you really believe that all the other countries in the ME will just sit on their hands and not start their own programs ? Of course they will and the nuclear race then begins. This, the ONLY terrorist state in the ME...the sponsors OPENLY of terrorism
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Why would you make fun of people like this.....for what point ? Just childish play with your friends ?

Mocking anyones fear is a bit weird don't you think ? It is the basis for real fear and different degrees for others and you mock it, as if it were impossible. Based on your posts, you have no idea of what you are speaking of.

I really have trouble understanding an adult making fun of a real threat to the country and mocking posters who agree with that ?

Late last year, the British HomE Secretary was quoted as saying that all ISIS needs to do is consolidate the land and....well here is the quote...

"British Home Secretary Theresa May warned that if ISIS consolidates its control over the land it occupies, “We will see the world’s first truly terrorist state” with “the space to plot attacks against us.”

"Its seizure of banks and oil fields gave it more than $2 billion in assets. If ISIS could make the right connection to corrupt officials in Russia or Pakistan, the group might be able to buy enough highly enriched uranium (about 50 pounds) and the technical help to build a crude nuclear device. Militants recruited from Europe or America could help smuggle it into their home nations.

Or ISIS could try to build a “dirty bomb,” conventional explosives like dynamite laced with highly radioactive materials. The blast would not kill many directly, but it would force the evacuation of tens of square blocks contaminated with radioactive particles."


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1958855

We have seen that consolidation begin in Iraq, Syria and even in Africa, so your mockery of the other posters is sort of up for its own mocking.
I am not making fun nor mocking anyone... This argument, the nuclear threat from Iraq, was used in the run up to the war. And in the end there was no nuclear threat. My brave Gunnery Sargent Marine went to Iraq 5 times and was wounded because the Bush administration flat out lied. And don't bother to say they didn't know it was a lie...they manipulated the truth especially in regard to the nuclear threat!!! 2 buried centrifuges...some threat.

A dirty bomb is much more likely from ISIS than a nuclear strike.
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I am not making fun nor mocking anyone... This argument, the nuclear threat from Iraq, was used in the run up to the war. And in the end there was no nuclear threat. My brave Gunnery Sargent Marine went to Iraq 5 times and was wounded because the Bush administration flat out lied. And don't bother to say they didn't know it was a lie...they manipulated the truth especially in regard to the nuclear threat!!! 2 buried centrifuges...some threat.

A dirty bomb is much more likely from ISIS than a nuclear strike.
And your continued anger toward a PAST President has WHAT to do with the thread which is to discuss the potential dirty bomb threat by ISIS ?

Having served for many years, I have many things that stick in my craw but they are history...this is a threat NOW and PRESENT.

Not being insensitive but often we are told to move on and here it applies since not doing that...moving on...solves absolutely nothing.
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Sure, it is possible that a dirty bomb could be exploded in the US. It could be transported here on a container ship to any port city with little chance of detection - or could it?

There are so many safeguards in place now that the public does not know of that chances are greatly diminished.

There have been tries but no known successful attempts to smuggle a dirty bomb here.

Remember, we have to catch all but they just have to get through once.

Do not put down our guards of the ports. These guys are good!
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After reading General McChrystal's book "Team of Teams" you will realize that terrorists in the Middle East use such technology as trucks, explosives, garage door openers and cell phones to terrorize. No WMD needed. Remember 9/11? Cell phones, and box cutters and the knowledge to fly a commercial airliner brought the fight to America. Any coordinated attack with modern communication and the will to die could disrupt any system...Political,Internet,the power grid, you name it. The politicians who run this country, regardless of party affiliation need to cooperate to enhance the Nation's security.
 

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