[villagetinker]

According to the online paper, Sumter county sees no way to widen Morse Blvd North of 466.
I think they missed the boat (this is where everyone else can get in).
I am not a traffic engineer, but here is my humble opinion.
Sumter County, would it be possible to move the golf cart lanes away from the existing roadway, if necessary on the opposite side of the drainage ditch? My thoughts are this would effectively widen the roadway, and hopefully provide sufficient space to include the suggested left turn lanes. Then provide specific location where the golf carts could cross Morse. This will probably involve the installation of traffic lights, which in turn will have the effect to slow traffic.
From a Google map review, it appears there is sufficient space to move the golf cart lanes, not sure if the additional space from the moved golf cart lanes will support left turn lanes. Also, there would probably be a need for curbing on the new golf cart lanes to keep carts from crossing in between the designated areas. I am sure this approach will need much less right of way than the proposed 4 lane roadway.

I think this is a balanced approach that addresses most if not all of the concerns expressed for the safety of this road.

Now before the lynch mob forms for this poster, I completely agree with many of the online comments, that this safety concern is probably being blown way out of proportion, but I have been on this stretch several times over the last 6 months, and have decided to avoid that area as it seems to congested, and all people using this section need to be very mindful of the traffic.
Let the fun bring!!!!

[bagboy]

I think the safety factor is more of an issue for carts crossing from east to west, or vice versa than travelling in the same direction as vehicle traffic. I think the volume of traffic and the speed of traffic is the main culprit. Slower speed limit (I know it's only 30) and traffic signals may help alleviate the problem. The county and law enforcement are aware of the situation, whether they act to ease the problem above and beyond speed limit enforcement is anyone's guess. I don't think the problem is overblown, and I won't be joining a lynch mob anytime soon .

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by bagboy

I think the safety factor is more of an issue for carts crossing from east to west, or vice versa than travelling in the same direction as vehicle traffic. I think the volume of traffic and the speed of traffic is the main culprit. Slower speed limit (I know it's only 30) and traffic signals may help alleviate the problem. The county and law enforcement are aware of the situation, whether they act to ease the problem above and beyond speed limit enforcement is anyone's guess. I don't think the problem is overblown, and I won't be joining a lynch mob anytime soon .

The only problem I've encountered on a very rare occasion was on the cross over point to get my cart to merge southbound to get on the path. Mostly during heavy traffic autos would ignore my signal left and gun it to pass me forcing me to jerk back to left sometimes greeting me with a one finger salute and horn blast. I believe the biggest problem with Morse blvd traffic speeding is because it's used as a cut thru between 27/441 and 466. I haven't had any scary incidents on morse in our cart in the past six weeks or so.

[DougB]

They wouldn't need to widen the roadway, just put grass here the golf cart lane is now and put the golf cart lane where the grass was originally.

[DougB]

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[vette]

As stated by Don; "I believe the biggest problem with Morse blvd traffic speeding is because it's used as a cut thru between 27/441 and 466." With the increase of traffic traveling from the south end to 466 I strongly agree that we need improved or new roads to accomodate the volume of cars. Reality is that with enough money anything can be done. If I'm correct Morse runs not only in Sumter but also in Lake counties. I suggest that what is needed is a coordinated approach to this by the state, Lake and Sumter. Making Rolling Acres 4 lanes would help. New underground drainage and a relocated Golf cart lane would definitely permit a 4 lane Morse. Mostly eliminating Golf carts from sharing Morse and instead creating a dedicated multimodal only pathway is the best way to improve safety for both cars, bikers and carters.

[Bogie Shooter]

Widen Morse to 4 lanes........................now you really have a shortcut to 27/441!

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Widen Morse to 4 lanes........................now you really have a shortcut to 27/441!

And a speedway too.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by DougB

They wouldn't need to widen the roadway, just put grass here the golf cart lane is now and put the golf cart lane where the grass was originally.

Where the grass is, is a drainage ditch. You also have the problem of what to do with intersections? When you drive the cart path along BV, 466, or Camino Real, the cart path moves behind the gates that are each of the side street. The side streets off of Morse have no gates.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by vette

As stated by Don; "I believe the biggest problem with Morse blvd traffic speeding is because it's used as a cut thru between 27/441 and 466." With the increase of traffic traveling from the south end to 466 I strongly agree that we need improved or new roads to accomodate the volume of cars. Reality is that with enough money anything can be done. If I'm correct Morse runs not only in Sumter but also in Lake counties. I suggest that what is needed is a coordinated approach to this by the state, Lake and Sumter. Making Rolling Acres 4 lanes would help. New underground drainage and a relocated Golf cart lane would definitely permit a 4 lane Morse. Mostly eliminating Golf carts from sharing Morse and instead creating a dedicated multimodal only pathway is the best way to improve safety for both cars, bikers and carters.

I'm surprised to hear people say that. I drive on this section of Morse quite often in both my car and golf carts and I rarely see people speeding. When I'm in my car I usually set my speed control right at 30 and it's rare that I have someone tailgating me. I think that most people drive 30-35mph in that area.

That's not to say that there is not an occasional speeder but I don't see it as a chronic problem.

[njbchbum]

4 lanes, move the cart/bike lane, redo the drainage ditch, turn lanes, traffic lights - who is supposed to pay for that and for the taking of the land to go along with all of these wants? The only things that are needed are obedience to traffic laws, common sense and a little bit of courtesy!

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by DougB

They wouldn't need to widen the roadway, just put grass here the golf cart lane is now and put the golf cart lane where the grass was originally.

That's actually such a simple and logical solution, that it may be brilliant. It would require just pouring another curb? The only problem I can think of is the path at intersections. But that may not be much of an issue, really.

[mrdills]

I have the solution, stop the cut through from non residence on Morris Blvd, we all know that will never happen because Morris doesn't want to maintain this road.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

4 lanes, move the cart/bike lane, redo the drainage ditch, turn lanes, traffic lights - who is supposed to pay for that and for the taking of the land to go along with all of these wants? The only things that are needed are obedience to traffic laws, common sense and a little bit of courtesy!

Sumter County doesn't build or maintain the golf cart paths, only the roads.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Widen Morse to 4 lanes........................now you really have a shortcut to 27/441!

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And more speeding! Same with widening Rolling acres.