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2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS

ISSUE JOHN McCAIN BARACK OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US Yes No

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it Yes No

Served in the US Armed Forces Yes No

Amount of time served in the US Senate 22 YEARS 173 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan No Yes

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy No Yes

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately No Yes

Supports gun ownership rights Yes No

Supports homosexual marriage No Yes

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase No Yes

Voted against making English the official language No Yes

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals No Yes

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.')

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN
(no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN - 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

And this says nothing about stripping of the DoD, appeasement of the terrorists, and loss of US sovereignty under "world citizen" Obama's relinquishment of US rights to the UN and World Court . Nor does it talk of loss of rights in "Fairness Laws" which are only fair to the minority.


You can verify the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/e...008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/iss...ues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/p..._on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-.../barack_obama/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-...s/john_mccain/

TT,
Great post......I almost posted this myself, but am too new here to get into big political debates.

Sad to say, what you posted is not even the half of it. I never thought it would get this far......what are people thinking????

Frank D.

Obviously they are NOT thinking. Probably lots of Bush hatred so throwing the baby out with the bath water mentality. Problem is the decision here with kill all of us. I'm not prepared for this much financial fallout, let alone the rest.

Let's pray cooler heads prevail.

Sad, what you posted is only half the story and filled with urban legends. Some people will really believe this. I urge all voter's to do their own homework.

Come on Chels: YOU DO THE RESEARCH. This is not urban legend. I have heard this come right out his mouth.

Wow, what a great informative post Tall Trees.

Unfortuantely some people don't vote with their head, they vote with their heart. They vote on promises of "change". They will vote for someone because they are handsome, speak well, because they give good speeches, because they want to be part of "History" for voting the first black President into office. It's just the way some people are and that will not "Change". What some may not realize is that when Barrack goes across this country asking for "Change", he means it literally. Change from every single American to help pay for some of hs programs, and more and more change. It's not like he can try to push any other message in his speeches. He can't talk about, foreign policy, national security, health care, experience, balancing a budget because he has none of this. All he can talk about is "Change".

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - Is NOT a position to be providing on the job training.

Taller Trees,

I have been asking all the Lord Obama supporters for two months to articulate Lord Obamas policies and plans for America. None of them could or would.
You have nailed it and without calling names or incriminating comments. Thank you for your work. I can't understand why any fair minded person in our age demographic would want the results of Lord Obama's plans to be placed in our future. Benj

TallerTrees, I have done the research. In fact, I've been following Senator Obama for much longer than you have. I'm from Chicago and I know the great things he's achieved there, I know how well respected he is, and I know what he can achieve in the future.

He was the first African-American to become President of the Harvard Law Review and he'll be the first African-American to become the President of the United States. And well deserved. It's time to put a man with a brain in the Whitehouse, not another blowhard that has to be fed his information.

Originally Posted by chelsea24

He was the first African-American to become President of the Harvard Law Review and he'll be the first African-American to become the President of the United States.

Just like I already stated "Making History" and "Being the first Black" is all some people care about. :

I don't believe you read my entire post Puterguru. Try again.

chelsea,

There you go again. You cant make a paragraph without name calling.
Just because you dont agree with Bush and he wants our country to go in a different direction than you and the other Lord Obama supporters does NOT mean he doesn't have a brain, to the contrary he has YALE and HARVARD degrees. You probably think he got them through the mail. He is FED his info from a large group of very intelligent people who I'm sure you think are stupid too. One thing you cant argue with is that he has core values and a strong belief in God and they have never wavered throughout his successful presidency. You dems think anyone who doesn't agree with you are brain dead, Maybe their just right. Benj

Originally Posted by chelsea24

It's time to put a man with a brain in the Whitehouse, not another blowhard that has to be fed his information.

Obama has 373 "Advisors" - I'm fairly certain he gets advised when to pee. Those advisors will be running the country if elected since Obama has no experience on anything.

Benj, final post to you. You keep calling Senator Obama, "Lord Obama". I find this more disrespectful then anything I've ever said. I don't take my "Lord's" name in vain.

Also, Bush's core belief was found only after years of wandering and drug use.

Successful presidency? That statement is so ludicrous, I won't even discuss it.

Lastly and FYI, I wasn't talking about Bush at all. I was talking about McCain.

"Me thinks dost protest too much." Good Luck in November.

chelsea,

Maybe it's your final post to me but you start by accusing me of blaspheme. Good start. No sense having your ideas challenged. I have said several times why I call your idol Lord Obama, Because it takes a leap of faith to support him because you have no idea what his plans for America are.
And wandering and drug use? You probably forgot about Lord Obamas use of Pot and coke and maybe even selling drugs.
As far as successful presidents I guess we'll just have to wait and see wont we. Your idea and mine of success are different. That must make me brain dead.
By the way if I'm taking anyones name in vain it's Lord Obama's. According to the dictionary vain is... unsuccessful, idle, empty, conceited a perfect description of Lord Obama. Benj

I'm not going to go into the debate nor merits of this post. Most of what was originally posted is pretty accurate. There are some things that need far more explanation than a simple yes or no response on both sides.

I have said one of my biggest fears of having McCain as president is his willingness to consder war as a first line of action (think Iran next) rather than considering or trying other means first. That, alone, is enough to get me into Obama's corner. I do have some serious misgivings about Obama but the war issue and the lives and costs involved make McCain a not very viable candidate to me.

All that being said, I do find "Lord Obama" offensive. It is name calling plain and simple. No matter how much I dislike a politician, I refuse to call them names. Quite honestly, I loathed Reagan up to and including telling my husband that if he voted for that man, I would be filing for divorce the day after I found out he voted for him. However, I never, not once, called him names. I dislike the male Bushes. If Barbara had ever run for office, I believe I probably would have happily voted for her. So, whether you like or dislike Obama, respect the fact that he has been selected by a very large number of Americans as their choice for President. Whether or not he will become President will depend on voters and the electoral college in November. Don't call him names, don't disrepect your friends', neighbors', enemies' choices. Leave the "lord" title in your mind. It doesn't belong in any public venue any more than does the scare factor of using his middle name (as has been done in the past). On the other side, "McLame" or anything else that makes fun of his name does not belong, either.

We're all adults. Let's try to be civil and respectful of each other and our political choices. There is no need to call our candidates names -- use facts to get your point across. There is no need to call each other names.