I debated about whether or not to throw this link to the Palin and the library story in here. But considering that some of us (including me) have made our own opinions on censorship, and the gray areas thereof, known here on TOTV recently, I thought this link might be of interest.

So far nobody has any proof that books chosen for the Public Library were actually pulled from the shelves. You know the shelves I mean. The shelves in the Public, that would be the Public Library. The Public Library with the selection policy in place to guide the choosing of books for the public. The Public Library staffed with librarians who know how to make all those book selection decisions because they went to school to study up on how. And why. And why not.

So far, the librarian directly involved is not talking to the press.

But what if this alleged conversation actually took place?

What if Palin actually asked the Public Librarian what her response would be if asked by the administration to remove books?

And what if Palin really did interpret such a loaded question as nothing more than a discussion matter about following the administrative agenda?

If it is indeed all true, can we really accept this thing as innocuous? You know, like when Jimmy Carter admitted to lusting in his heart.

My mama always said to never talk about anybody else's kids because you just never know what your own might do. And I have no intention of talking about Palin's kids. Ever.

But if Palin thought she was entitled to censor the Public Library because she was the mayor of the town, well, that one. . . I plan to talk about.

But for right now, I am putting this link to the Anchorage paper here for you. Just as a public service you understand. Not looking for a fight. Just reporting the news from Anchorage. Not sure how this paper spins things.

And I sure don't envy that librarian. She is on vacation right now. Today -- Vacation. Tomorrow -- Maybe the cover of Time.

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

Boomer

First of all, I would be upset if the "rumors" and sudden outcry is found to be true. My question for you and others is if this incident with not much of a "money trail" is legitimate to discuss and to be something that will decide your vote, WHY THEN IS NOT QUESTIONS ABOUT the Presidential candidate actions and associations 12 years ago a subject of discussion ?

Again, on this issue I would be here supporting you !

My mind has already been made up on this woman and this ticket. Whether it's true or not really doesn't matter to me. It should matter to undecideds. "A test of loyalty" certainly wouldn't cut it with me. More smoke and mirrors. That in itself is despicable.

Yes, this is a fair question and/or discussion. It shows the mindset of Palin. If it is true, she certainly does have a record (under investigation) of getting rid of people in a very lowhanded way. I'm telling you, IMHO, no matter how the RNC tries to spin this entire ticket, it just doesn't add up.

Just wondering , is this what they teach in journalism school?
" wether it's true or not doesn't matter to me" or" It shows the mindset of Palin if it is true".. Those are big IF"S sounds fair and balanced to me. Benj

Benj, I'm not speaking as a journalist. I'm speaking as a voter. As I've stated in several posts, my mind is already made up. So is yours apparently.

If she really was considering censorship, it truly bothers me. It goes along with the abstinance sex ed issue to me -- a little too small town, not realistic values for today's world and issues. I sincerely hope this is a lot of innuendo and rumors and that the question was truly rhetorical and not (1) a way to promote book censorship and (2) an excuse to get rid of someone who didn't support her initially (even though a "loyalty" test was passed).

Of course, the concept of a loyalty test for public employees nauseates me. Reminds me too much of the Nazi oaths required pre-WWII in Germany.

It is interesting to note that when Gov Palin was doing whatever she did, Sen Obama was up to his old tricks it seems.

The attached link is a story that was put forward by CBS during the primary and the timing seems to be about the same time. The story is basically the same as today...he was trying to hide his radical extremism.....and of course when the survey he completed came out, he said he had nothing to do with it and nver saw it (although in his handwriting)...it showed him to be much more extreme and radical as he was running for the state senate in Illinois.

The Clintons had this...was one of the reasons that they said he could not be elected...I still have hope that the press will get this stuff out before the election. As I said somewhere earlier...Michelle Obama slipped up a bit in her speech and quoted Saul Alinsky !

Anyway that is what he was doing at the same time !


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3981093.shtml

Bucco, I understand you wanting to put this up as a distraction, but what are your views on this censorship allegation against Palin?

Bucco, I understand you wanting to put this up as a distraction, but what are your views on this censorship allegation against Palin?
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I have said more than once on this thread that I dont in any way support any kind of censorship and that it would be upsetting. Having read the article posted and a few others, it seems to be a non story, although many great scandals began that way .

My point was not to distract but point out and ask..why are we not as concerned at least about electing a president who is a radical liberal. That does not get the attention that this library story from 12 years ago does. I found it ironic that TWELVE years ago Sen Obama was saying it really wasnt him as he does today.

Perhaps the wrong thread to make the point and for that I guess I am sorry,,,but I told you a few times....you dispute anything I am saying...any of it....and I will be a Sen Obama supporter because he seems to be a nice guy, a great orator, etc but his idealogy is RADICAL !

chels
If we are opening comments up on allegations things could get really ugly. Benj

I wonder which books these were that then Mayor Palin found objectionable? There are a lot of books that public libraries will not buy because of the community served and its values. These values vary from one community to another though. What is good in Manhatten might be quite objectionable in a small town in rural Alaska.

Would you want your grandkids for instance viewing DVDs of Sex and the City?

Banning Harry Potter books is one thing but there are a lot of items that public librarians would be very loath to put on their stacks.

It is politically correct among librarians to fight against censorship against certain books but there are a lot of books which are too hot for even them to put on their stacks.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac

I wonder which books these were that then Mayor Palin found objectionable? There are a lot of books that public libraries will not buy because of their local community values. These values vary from one community to another though. What is good in Manhatten might be quite objectionable in a small town in rural Alaska.

Would you want your grandkids for instance viewing DVDs of Sex and the City?

Banning Harry Potter books is one thing but there are a lot of items that public librarians would be very loath to put on their stacks.

But who is it to say what is ok and what is not....isn't it a parents job to dictate what a children can and can not see or read?

Benj, I'm sticking to the thread an asking about the censorship allegations against Palin. Read EVERY word, please.

Originally Posted by Cassie325

But who is it to say what is ok and what is not....isn't it a parents job to dictate what a children can and can not see or read?

You are half right about parents Cassie325. There are books though that are censored all the time from libraries by librarians. Would you be OK for instance with a copy of the Kama Sutra being available to check out for anyone at the Villages Public Library??

Perhaps then a 18+ area? Never thought about it that way...thanks! However...there are movies, music and other media types that have regulating rules about them....perhaps books should have the same thing...??