[Taltarzac725]

San Bernardino shooting - LA Times

Will have to follow this horrible story. Wait for the facts to come out though before jumping to conclusions. These are becoming way too ordinary. https://www.facebook.com/yarmouthpol...type=3&theater

2 dead suspects identified in CA shooting - FOX5 Vegas - KVVU

[Jaggy]

I was sitting at Publix waiting for my husband to check out and i was reading about the shooting happening ( On my phone).. I mentioned to the gentlemen sitting next to me, " well, there is another mass shooting happening in california".. He said, so what .. Right there is what is going wrong with this country.. SO WHAT?? are we so insensitive that another shooting becomes ho-hum???

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Jaggy

I was sitting at Publix waiting for my husband to check out and i was reading about the shooting happening ( On my phone).. I mentioned to the gentlemen sitting next to me, " well, there is another mass shooting happening in california".. He said, so what .. Right there is what is going wrong with this country.. SO WHAT?? are we so insensitive that another shooting becomes ho-hum???

We seem to be becoming that way. San Bernardino Shootings: What We Know, One Day After : The Two-Way : NPR

[Jima64]

Originally Posted by Jaggy

I was sitting at Publix waiting for my husband to check out and i was reading about the shooting happening ( On my phone).. I mentioned to the gentlemen sitting next to me, " well, there is another mass shooting happening in california".. He said, so what .. Right there is what is going wrong with this country.. SO WHAT?? are we so insensitive that another shooting becomes ho-hum???

Too bad that person feels that way. Wish l could ask him why he feels that way.

[ajbrown]

I will never be insensitive to these situations. I cannot imagine the pain caused by some lunatic(s). Put yourself in a situation like this, being at town square when it is jammed and four murderers open up... unthinkable...

All that said, I am so tired of our media. It is like they relish these things. I am not taking away from the event, but we really need every minute for the next two days rerunning the same thing? How about we just update for 10 minutes per hour?

At least remove the tag 'breaking news'

Frustrated to find my morning news fix on any cable new network, I resorted to the Today Show and there is Matt in CA. I did not even know Today Show pretended to do news anymore.

[tcxr750]

Americans killed by terrorists in the US from 9/11 on 3,500. Americans killed by gun related homicides for the same time period 160,000.
What passes for entertainment in this country has changed in the past 30 years. More shows highlight the use of guns and the bloodletting. Could this be influencing how contemporary Americans have become desensitized to the need to respect what power and responsibility there is with gun ownership.

[nitakk]

San Berdoo is my home town. i lived there for over 30 years and am right now in the airport in Vegas waiting for my connecting flight to Ontario California. My family is all well but I have been glued to the TV since yesterday. Looks like this can happen anywhere. As the BBC reported, "just another day in America".

[Sable99]

Originally Posted by tcxr750

Americans killed by terrorists in the US from 9/11 on 3,500. Americans killed by gun related homicides for the same time period 160,000.
What passes for entertainment in this country has changed in the past 30 years. More shows highlight the use of guns and the bloodletting. Could this be influencing how contemporary Americans have become desensitized to the need to respect what power and responsibility there is with gun ownership.

I don't understand your "same time period". The people killed on 9/11 were killed in about 2 1/2 hours and not all were American. I would think the 160,000 killed in gun related homicides were over a longer period of time.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by biker1

...terrorists can obtain weapons regardless of the existing laws or any other laws that you can envision...

Yep.

[jblum315]

The guns were obtained legally according to the FBI

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by tedquick

If you want to cut down on gun violence arm EVERYBODY!!!



What in the world makes you think that any more gun laws will help anything? I've heard that there are over 23,000 gun laws on the books already. What changes/additions do you suggest?



A Republican problem? How about a criminal or terrorist problem? Why must you blame "the other party"?

I happen to be a card carrying Democrat that believes in the 2nd amendment. It's not a party problem but a societal one. Christian morals are decaying with radical religious beliefs filling the void.

[goodtimesintv]

More gun laws, my foot!

You'd better ban remote-control toy cars and pressure cookers, too! Then stick your head farther down into the sand.

"Multiple federal and regional sources familiar with the investigation of the attack at San Bernardino's Inland Regional Center told NBC News that the controller was similar to the model car controller used in the Boston Marathon bombing of 2013.

.....The attackers had also prepared metal pipe bombs of the type used by the Tsarnaev brothers after the Boston Marathon bombing. San Bernardino Police Department Chief Jarrod Burguan said Thursday at a press conference that 12 pipe bombs were found at a residence in nearby Redlands.

Though there is no known link between the Boston and San Bernardino incidents, the California attackers and the Tsarnaev brothers seemed to be using designs found in multiple issues of Inspire magazine, the on-line publication of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula...."

San Bernardino Attackers Left Remote Controlled Bomb at Party - NBC News

[Justus]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

More gun laws, my foot!

You'd better ban remote-control toy cars and pressure cookers, too! Then stick your head farther down into the sand.

"Multiple federal and regional sources familiar with the investigation of the attack at San Bernardino's Inland Regional Center told NBC News that the controller was similar to the model car controller used in the Boston Marathon bombing of 2013.

.....The attackers had also prepared metal pipe bombs of the type used by the Tsarnaev brothers after the Boston Marathon bombing. San Bernardino Police Department Chief Jarrod Burguan said Thursday at a press conference that 12 pipe bombs were found at a residence in nearby Redlands.

Though there is no known link between the Boston and San Bernardino incidents, the California attackers and the Tsarnaev brothers seemed to be using designs found in multiple issues of Inspire magazine, the on-line publication of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula...."

San Bernardino Attackers Left Remote Controlled Bomb at Party - NBC News

Yep!

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by jblum315

The guns were obtained legally according to the FBI

And in a state with some of the most rigorOus gun laws in the country!!!

It also demonstrates the nice polite couple next door with a six month old baby were the shooters/killers/terrorists!!

We are not saying something when we see something.........often enough!

[John_W]

Originally Posted by tcxr750

Americans killed by terrorists in the US from 9/11 on 3,500. Americans killed by gun related homicides for the same time period 160,000...

Originally Posted by Sable99

I don't understand your "same time period". The people killed on 9/11 were killed in about 2 1/2 hours and not all were American. I would think the 160,000 killed in gun related homicides were over a longer period of time.

I agree with Sable, those comments stood out to me as well. Just thinking back, the Vietnam War was about 10 years long and how many died there, 59,000 or so. I think 160,000 is a pretty big number. Also, I believe suicides by gun gets counted as a homicide and there are about 20,000 suicide by gun per year.