The Republican Party really screwed up by passing the giant transportation and Omnibus spending bills before they ran home for vacation. Those two items created a whole new level of dependency on unfunded government spending. I do not think the opportunity to start rolling back the reckless spending track we are on now will ever stand a better chance. Malcolm Gladwell wrote of this in his book "The Tipping Point". When 47% of us pay no federal income tax I don't think we will change anything at the polls, only some kind of disaster will change us.

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The Republican Party really screwed up by passing the giant transportation and Omnibus spending bills before they ran home for vacation. Those two items created a whole new level of dependency on unfunded government spending. I do not think the opportunity to start rolling back the reckless spending track we are on now will ever stand a better chance. Malcolm Gladwell wrote of this in his book "The Tipping Point". When 47% of us pay no federal income tax I don't think we will change anything at the polls, only some kind of disaster will change us.

The Republicans had no choice. Either go with it, or allow Obama to veto anything else and shut down the gov. blaming it on the Republicans. Obama really needs to go before he does more damage than our country can come back from. He is the most dangerous tyrant of this century. And he is determined to cause more damage before he leaves the White House.

This country will only survive IF we elect a conservative to the position.

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The Republicans had no choice. Either go with it, or allow Obama to veto anything else and shut down the gov. blaming it on the Republicans. Obama really needs to go before he does more damage than our country can come back from. He is the most dangerous tyrant of this century. And he is determined to cause more damage before he leaves the White House.

This country will only survive IF we elect a conservative to the position.

The Executive does not maker law or control spending, the CONGRESS does.

The R's keep blabbering that THEY control the purse strings

Voters see right through these Con lies, which is why we will elect a Democrat to the WH for many years to come

Originally Posted by Guest

The Executive does not maker law or control spending, the CONGRESS does.

The R's keep blabbering that THEY control the purse strings

Voters see right through these Con lies, which is why we will elect a Democrat to the WH for many years to come

advocating that more of the same that is not working??? Really?

Nothing will change until there is a true representaion of the wants of the people instead of the partisan pi44ing contests of today.

Which the representatives continue to to be paid and re-elected while doing nothing more than serving themselves.

We the people are asleep at the swith.....STILL!!

Originally Posted by Guest

The Republicans had no choice. Either go with it, or allow Obama to veto anything else and shut down the gov. blaming it on the Republicans. Obama really needs to go before he does more damage than our country can come back from. He is the most dangerous tyrant of this century. And he is determined to cause more damage before he leaves the White House.

This country will only survive IF we elect a conservative to the position.

You're reply supports my point, we cannot elect a real fiscal conservative because of what was just passed, the numbers are just not there anymore. You also confuse the Republicans running as conservatives, they're not, except for a couple who stand no chance of being elected.

Originally Posted by Guest

The Executive does not maker law or control spending, the CONGRESS does.

The R's keep blabbering that THEY control the purse strings

Voters see right through these Con lies, which is why we will elect a Democrat to the WH for many years to come

You need to go back to school and repeat your Civic class. There is this thing called a presidential Veto. Run your mouth all you want, but the Republican congress did the only thing they could have to keep the gov open and still have a chance of electing a responsible president. And the funny thing is that the liberal on here is admitting that Obama/democrats are irresponsible by the way he puts down the Republicans for the new budget. And he can't take that back.

Nope, the Republicans played it just the way they had to.

And I guess the liberal has not been watching TV news today or yesterday or he would have heard how Obummer is going to use E.O. to make new gun control law. Well, he attempted it with immigration and got shot down by the Supremes, so lets see what happens this time. He is a dangerous, misguided and delusional failure, but there is nothing we can do about it until he leaves, kicking and screaming. I bet Michelle can't even stand him.

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You're reply supports my point, we cannot elect a real fiscal conservative because of what was just passed, the numbers are just not there anymore. You also confuse the Republicans running as conservatives, they're not, except for a couple who stand no chance of being elected.

Sorry, but I do not support winning one battle just to make a point that would fail anyway. Obama would have shut down the gov and blamed it on the GOP. That would not have gone well in the elections. Before a Republican congress can fully control the gov, it has to have a president that can compromise. We do not have one. Obummer is the worst of all presidents that we could have. He uses hate mongering and race as his leverage and the stupid people believe him. He is the most dangerous type of tyrant of all.

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Sorry, but I do not support winning one battle just to make a point that would fail anyway. Obama would have shut down the gov and blamed it on the GOP. That would not have gone well in the elections. Before a Republican congress can fully control the gov, it has to have a president that can compromise. We do not have one. Obummer is the worst of all presidents that we could have. He uses hate mongering and race as his leverage and the stupid people believe him. He is the most dangerous type of tyrant of all.

"Before a Republican congress can fully control the gov, it has to have a president that can compromise." What is your definition of "fully control". It had to be the same definition as your definition of the word "compromise", which is give us everything that we want and we will call that a compromise.

Did the Democrats get everything that they wanted in the budget? No, they didn't. Obama is the most dangerous type of tyrant. He sure is. That is one that is willing to compromise. Maybe that is the reason a government shut down would be blamed on the Republican is because in their world compromise is a swear word.

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"Before a Republican congress can fully control the gov, it has to have a president that can compromise." What is your definition of "fully control". It had to be the same definition as your definition of the word "compromise", which is give us everything that we want and we will call that a compromise.

Did the Democrats get everything that they wanted in the budget? No, they didn't. Obama is the most dangerous type of tyrant. He sure is. That is one that is willing to compromise. Maybe that is the reason a government shut down would be blamed on the Republican is because in their world compromise is a swear word.

Obama compromise???? .......

Originally Posted by Guest

Sorry, but I do not support winning one battle just to make a point that would fail anyway. Obama would have shut down the gov and blamed it on the GOP. That would not have gone well in the elections. Before a Republican congress can fully control the gov, it has to have a president that can compromise. We do not have one. Obummer is the worst of all presidents that we could have. He uses hate mongering and race as his leverage and the stupid people believe him. He is the most dangerous type of tyrant of all.

Who cares if the Republicans got blamed, it would have been the right thing to do. The President and Progressives got a big win because our party said we will do it next time. Really. Elect us again. We really mean it this time.

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Who cares if the Republicans got blamed, it would have been the right thing to do. The President and Progressives got a big win because our party said we will do it next time. Really. Elect us again. We really mean it this time.

So, lets be clear on this. You feel that the Republicans should have stood their ground and pass a budget that would be veto'd and then the gov would be shut down? And then, you feel that because of that, they would then get elected? And a we would get a Republican president also? What fantasy world do you live in? No wonder we have an idiot in the White House, if we have people with a vote that don't understand how the government works.

i think there are enough knowledgeable voters now to realize that it would have been the President shutting down the govt and they would have voted republican. now the result is that even republicans don't want to vote republican! i am voting for Trump, Cruz or Dr Carson, whichever might get the nomination.

Originally Posted by Guest

The Executive does not maker law or control spending, the CONGRESS does.

The R's keep blabbering that THEY control the purse strings

Voters see right through these Con lies, which is why we will elect a Democrat to the WH for many years to come

Dear Guest: You are either one who lives a very sheltered life or a troll. In either case for the record here is a response.

You are correct. Essentially Congress (Legislative Branch) makes law and controls spending. The Executive Branch carries out those laws, and the Judicial Branch (Supreme Court) interprets such laws. Its called separation of powers and was constructed to maintain balance

However Obama has turned this fine balance on its head by veto, executive order, regulations (over 80,000 pages in 2015) via federal agencies (czar appointed and not elected. He essentially has ignored Congress altogether and has taken public issue with some of the decisions made by the Supreme Court, to wit Citizens United (see below)

This dance of his has been going on for his entire tenure and it has been very damaging. Anyone who believes what Obama says are as they say in the game of politics "useful idiots", because Obama doesn't care about you, me or them. Obama is a puppet to internationalist that want to take America down a peg or two. All one has to do to know this is true is to take a broad view of the tapestry of Obama's political works

For example, in response to Citizens United a decision and its deciders he publicly ridiculed at one of his televised State of the Union addresses, he sent his bull dogs (IRS) to counter its effect by targeting conservative groups.

Unlike some on this thread the threat of a government shut down did not concern me one bit because essential service by law must be maintained and you can't fool all of the people all of the time.....Many people including some of the liberal media are finally realizing what a monster Obama the Terrible really is and the damage he has wrought on America. I make this statement with a heavy heart because as Americans are taught one supports and respects the position of the President of these United States.

However in this case I have never acknowledge Obama as being my president and I believe he has been very disrespectful of America and its people and as such he has not earned their respect.

Personal Best Regards:

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The Republicans had no choice. Either go with it, or allow Obama to veto anything else and shut down the gov. blaming it on the Republicans. Obama really needs to go before he does more damage than our country can come back from. He is the most dangerous tyrant of this century. And he is determined to cause more damage before he leaves the White House.

This country will only survive IF we elect a conservative to the position.

typical, do the deed and blame it on someone else--"elect a conservative" like bush43, who destroyed this country financially to get the invisible wmd's





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Originally Posted by Guest

i think there are enough knowledgeable voters now to realize that it would have been the President shutting down the govt and they would have voted republican. now the result is that even republicans don't want to vote republican! i am voting for Trump, Cruz or Dr Carson, whichever might get the nomination.

the fact is you would vote for anyone running as a republican, pathetic, what you want is a dictatorship or communism