Depictions of long bread lines during the Great Depression underscored how desperate many folks were back then. The Great Recession of 2008 version of these bread lines are now much more subtle, their called food stamps.

The number of people receiving food stamps has exceeded 45 million for 56 straight months (cite Department of Agriculture), meaning that an astonishing 14% of Americans are being fed by government. It means that 21.3 % (52.2.million) is one one or more means tested government program. Additionally most of this population also get special tax breaks, incentives or treatment, nanny government's tools for wealth redistribution and Sanders and Clinton advocate for more such social engineering.

Tracking for food stamp participation by the Department of Agriculture began in 1969. Food stamp population participation was 2.87 million people (14%) representing just 1.4% of total population. Statistically food stamp participation has increased 1,470% in 47 years yet the US population has had only a 56% increase.

The Department of Agriculture readily admit that the generous incentive for SNAP associated with both the 2002 and 2008 Farm Acts made benefits easier to secure and more generous.

Again we find Sanders and Clinton engaged in a battle over who will promise the most free stuff. Such promises are unconstitutional and unsustainable. These government welfare programs promote a disincentive to work and require unattainable monetary policy.

The printing/creating of money means more of the national wealth flows to the federal government. We see the same problem because of the FED monetary policies ( QE and low interest) stifling the economy money flow only to Wall Street and the US Treasury.

Government has to stop because its destroying us from within

Personal Best Regards:

Stock up on ammo!

Clinton will be elected president, there is nobody that can stop that. She will be elected by the 52% of voters that are on government assistance (it was 49% in 2013, do the math) and they don't care how many lies she tells, they don't care how many emails she has deleted, they don't care how many classified emails she sent off her personal server, they don't care how many people died in Benghazi, they don't want America to be put back to work...all they care about is "no cuts to their benefits" and she is that!

The ammo will be needed when this country goes bankrupt because it gives away more than it takes in, and because the working people can't afford the non working anymore. When those benefits stop coming; the recipients that have developed a sense of entitlement (some of them have had the last 3 generations of their families on welfare), they will seek to find food and money elsewhere. Get ready for Civil War II.

Go ahead and debate, the old and weak will be the first attacked...stock up on ammo!!

Originally Posted by Guest

Stock up on ammo!

Clinton will be elected president, there is nobody that can stop that. She will be elected by the 52% of voters that are on government assistance (it was 49% in 2013, do the math) and they don't care how many lies she tells, they don't care how many emails she has deleted, they don't care how many classified emails she sent off her personal server, they don't care how many people died in Benghazi, they don't want America to be put back to work...all they care about is "no cuts to their benefits" and she is that!

The ammo will be needed when this country goes bankrupt because it gives away more than it takes in, and because the working people can't afford the non working anymore. When those benefits stop coming; the recipients that have developed a sense of entitlement (some of them have had the last 3 generations of their families on welfare), they will seek to find food and money elsewhere. Get ready for Civil War II.

Go ahead and debate, the old and weak will be the first attacked...stock up on ammo!!

You might want to do some research before you speak:

The 7 Biggest Deadbeat States Who Mooch Off Taxpayers All Vote Republican

Now from the Pew Research Group:

The politics and demographics of food stamp recipients | Pew Research Center

The Top 7 states for food stamps:

7 States With the Most People on Food Stamps

Just another example of the hate speech coming from the Trump Camp!

I'll bet you go to church every Sunday....

Originally Posted by Guest

You might want to do some research before you speak:

The 7 Biggest Deadbeat States Who Mooch Off Taxpayers All Vote Republican

Now from the Pew Research Group:

The politics and demographics of food stamp recipients | Pew Research Center

The Top 7 states for food stamps:

7 States With the Most People on Food Stamps

Just another example of the hate speech coming from the Trump Camp!

I'll bet you go to church every Sunday....

Yes.....but....... Benghazie, Benghazie, Benghazie!

Originally Posted by Guest

The Department of Agriculture readily admit that the generous incentive for SNAP associated with both the 2002 and 2008 Farm Acts made benefits easier to secure and more generous.



Government has to stop because its destroying us from within

Personal Best Regards:

The farming and food industry, folks like Kraft, ADM, Cargill, Tyson, etc. Are the beneficiaries of the food stamp program. When the poor get "free money", they spend it on their food products, that's why they push for more and more welfare.

Yes it is destroying us from within. We keep voting for the D and R crooks, what do we expect?

Originally Posted by Guest

You might want to do some research before you speak:

The 7 Biggest Deadbeat States Who Mooch Off Taxpayers All Vote Republican

Now from the Pew Research Group:

The politics and demographics of food stamp recipients | Pew Research Center

The Top 7 states for food stamps:

7 States With the Most People on Food Stamps

Just another example of the hate speech coming from the Trump Camp!

I'll bet you go to church every Sunday....

Keep debating old fool (your Social Security checks will stop when Hillary runs the government into bankrupt).

Love liberal websites...yeah Hillary and Bernie are speaking of taking from the rich and giving to the poor Republicans, LOL.

I might vote for Hillary. Not that my vote will be needed, when she will already have 52% of the country voting for "no cuts in benefits" (all Republicans I guess). Most polls have her at 65% chance to win the presidential election, possibly you want to bet against them?

After the Civil War II; the country will start over and hopefully will be much better than it is now (Obamma, the first half white president, was a bust...Has the Standards and Poor ratings for the US improved?? Was Obammacare a success??) Really, are Hellary, Burn, Crud, and Trump the best people we have to lead this country? That is all we got? Is there nobody better that could garner enough votes to be elected?

You lost the bet! I am Agnostic, so no church for me. I do feel there are good ethics and morals in the Bible, I just do those for myself and not some God.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

The topic is " Government Welfare Programs" . I do not consider Social Security nor Medicare to be welfare programs nor entitlements because American workers were forced to participate. Politicians like to brag about them as entitlements as if they are your benevolent benefactors. But the truth as we know it is that it had been because of their mis-management that these two programs are in dire straits. So in my mind discussion of Social Security/Medicare is a separate issue

This mismanagement also applies to welfare programs. There is no question that some of us will need a helping hand for a brief period and some of us because of disability will need to be provided for life. It is the human thing to assist and its the Christian thing to do.

However, the federal government too often knowingly use these programs as redistribution schemes and as vote getters quid pro quo arrangements and the like. And/or they lack the knowledge or the motiviation to fight fraud and abuse

I hold both Democrats and Republicans equally responsible for allowing this to continue because it has created generation after generation of slacker and the ranks among them are growing .

I also chose this topic because I am sick and tired of talking about candidates ad nauseam. By now we all know who they are and we all have made up our minds about the spin that surrounds their campaigns.

It would seem reasonable to discuss substantive issues, policies etc and the affect we believe they will have on us

Personal Best Regards

Originally Posted by Guest

Depictions of long bread lines during the Great Depression underscored how desperate many folks were back then. The Great Recession of 2008 version of these bread lines are now much more subtle, their called food stamps.

The number of people receiving food stamps has exceeded 45 million for 56 straight months (cite Department of Agriculture), meaning that an astonishing 14% of Americans are being fed by government. It means that 21.3 % (52.2.million) is one one or more means tested government program. Additionally most of this population also get special tax breaks, incentives or treatment, nanny government's tools for wealth redistribution and Sanders and Clinton advocate for more such social engineering.

Tracking for food stamp participation by the Department of Agriculture began in 1969. Food stamp population participation was 2.87 million people (14%) representing just 1.4% of total population. Statistically food stamp participation has increased 1,470% in 47 years yet the US population has had only a 56% increase.

The Department of Agriculture readily admit that the generous incentive for SNAP associated with both the 2002 and 2008 Farm Acts made benefits easier to secure and more generous.

Again we find Sanders and Clinton engaged in a battle over who will promise the most free stuff. Such promises are unconstitutional and unsustainable. These government welfare programs promote a disincentive to work and require unattainable monetary policy.

The printing/creating of money means more of the national wealth flows to the federal government. We see the same problem because of the FED monetary policies ( QE and low interest) stifling the economy money flow only to Wall Street and the US Treasury.

Government has to stop because its destroying us from within

Personal Best Regards:

I've been hearing the same bs since I was old enough to read about politics.
The sky is falling.

Why don't you take a day off and go help somebody in need rather than sit there all day biting each other's heads off. Wake up.

Originally Posted by Guest

I've been hearing the same bs since I was old enough to read about politics.
The sky is falling.

Really?

So where does the doubling of those getting food stamps under Obama fit in your life long education of this matter?

You want to talk about "Government Welfare Programs". Fine. All the tax benefits given to the top wage earnings, what do you call that? How about this? Welfare for people that don't need it.

Saying that food stamps are for slackers is just plain wrong. It is painting everyone with the same brush. Is there fraud? Of course, there is. Is it wide spread? No, it isn't. When everyone that doesn't agree with you has to be your enemy, this is what you get. Just blame them for everything. That way you don't have to look in the mirror at part of the problem.

If you think that companies supplying items to the military are completely honest, you are not living in the real world. There is fraud everywhere. The problem is how much money do you want to spend uncovering it? The cost may be more than the benefit.

The welfare moms disappeared in 90s.

Originally Posted by Guest

You want to talk about "Government Welfare Programs". Fine. All the tax benefits given to the top wage earnings, what do you call that? How about this? Welfare for people that don't need it.

Saying that food stamps are for slackers is just plain wrong. It is painting everyone with the same brush. Is there fraud? Of course, there is. Is it wide spread? No, it isn't. When everyone that doesn't agree with you has to be your enemy, this is what you get. Just blame them for everything. That way you don't have to look in the mirror at part of the problem.

If you think that companies supplying items to the military are completely honest, you are not living in the real world. There is fraud everywhere. The problem is how much money do you want to spend uncovering it? The cost may be more than the benefit.

The welfare moms disappeared in 90s.

In addition to the so called isolated fraud(?) the bigger, much bigger numbers are those who no longer qualify but remain on the rolls collecting the benfits.
The government just does not police status. Once you are on you are on....no enforcement! The politicians are not going to be the ones to stand up and state taking people off the programs......that would be losing a vote.
Hence like most federal programs, out of control spending, no enforcement to maintain voter block.

Originally Posted by Guest

Yes.....but....... Benghazie, Benghazie, Benghazie!

I watched all of the last session.... Your guys got nothing but egg on their face!

And you would have more credibility if you could spell it correctly!


Benghazi

Originally Posted by Guest

You want to talk about "Government Welfare Programs". Fine. All the tax benefits given to the top wage earnings, what do you call that? How about this? Welfare for people that don't need it.

Saying that food stamps are for slackers is just plain wrong. It is painting everyone with the same brush. Is there fraud? Of course, there is. Is it wide spread? No, it isn't. When everyone that doesn't agree with you has to be your enemy, this is what you get. Just blame them for everything. That way you don't have to look in the mirror at part of the problem.

If you think that companies supplying items to the military are completely honest, you are not living in the real world. There is fraud everywhere. The problem is how much money do you want to spend uncovering it? The cost may be more than the benefit.

The welfare moms disappeared in 90s.

Great post!!! Then we could talk about Corporate Welfare and Tax evasion!

Think by Numbers » Government Spends More on Corporate Welfare Subsidies than Social Welfare Programs

If you want to talk about government welfare and the billion of dollars it costs - start talking about farm subsidies!

You will very rarely meet a poor farmer but you will always meet a farmer who claims to be poor.