is really an orchestrated effort as stated by some representatives?
Even the WH spokesman, Gibbs, has labled the activity as "mob" activity distracting the message.

Take up the following challenge on this issue....as well as all future threads....judge the issue not by the party but by the concept of we the people and America first. America first is not a partisan concept...and it certainly is not the priority in recent politics (not limited to just jan-July 2009!!!!!!).

btk

It's not staged. People are ****ed off and the more they learn the more ****ed they get. People are starting to understand the great lie.

Of course in typical fashion, the liberals will attack and demonize any who oppose them including the American people.

That's the main reason they are trying to ram everything through this year. In 2010 the house cleaning begins.

I am 55 and intended to retire this year but am hanging on because of the economy and the health care push. We earned our way and deserve what we earned. I am tired of politicians giving away my money and now they want to take away my health care.
We are mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore.
Let them speak and then tell them we are not stupid and we are not buying the bs they are pitching.

response how does the media, select representatives and WH' Gibbs come across?

Check out Barbara Boxer as an model example of the coincidental (?) tone:

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What is becoming apparent is that any questioning, challenging or counter proposing by members of either party is being consistently labeled as against health care reform or against the POTUS or against progress. That has been an issue of concern being expressed by increasing numbers in many quorums on the subject.

Do any other members of this forum hear anything different or similar in groups they may visit?

There is absolutely no doubt the current administration has the benefit of the media for wide spread exposure. And that is also adding to the agitation of those who have a difference of opinion.....no matter the party affiliation.

It will be interesting to see how this apparent ground swell is handled over the next couple of months.

btk

Remember when the democrats said that dissent was a high form of patriotism?

She too is a disgusting liar. CA would be served well to run her out of town. Ask me how I know. I'm going to enjoy 2010.

Remember when the democrats said that dissent was a high form of patriotism?

Only when they are not in power of course. Now we are just well dressed staged mobs.

Originally Posted by dklassen

She too is a disgusting liar. CA would be served well to run her out of town. Ask me how I know. I'm going to enjoy 2010.

Don't get your hopes up too high. I'm afraid there will just be others just like her, male/female, Democrat/Repbulican right behind.

It is amazing to me that when liberals/democrats demonstrate, they are called 'demonstrators'. When conservatives do the same POTUS calls them a mob. Liberals are by nature, sheeple. Sheep go in herds following their leader’s direction given by the dogs. The dog never questions the leader, nor do the sheep question the dogs. They simply comply. This was well expressed by Nickelsburg is a writing on large herd control. - "The working relationship in large flock sheep herding should be a partnership -- a partnership in which both the shepherd and the dog work together out of mutual trust and respect toward a common goal to complete a common task in cooperation with each other as a team. This requires respect for the leader and obedience to the rules clearly set forth by the leader."

Nothing I know, could more accurately describe the behavior of liberals in campaigns. There is always a leader, there are always lieutenants and there is always direction to the people/sheep of when to show up and what to do. Chartering buses, for example, is a normal tactic.

Getting cooperation among conservatives is much more difficult. Trying to herd conservatives is about as profitable as trying to herd cats. Conservatives, by definition, want individual responsibility, individual rights and independent thought. As demonstrated the recent attempts at healthcare legislation are anethical to these beliefs. (1) Individual responsibility – this requires each of us to accept the primary responsibility for our own health care and to tell the government to ‘butt out’. (2) Individual rights – this means that we get to select our healthcare providers, our own insurance and how far and wide our medical records will be distributed – Obamacare is strictly opposed to this. If you choose the national plan, and you must under Obamacare – he is on record as favoring a single payer system, then this means you do not get to choose your own doctor or insurance – Obamacare will do it for you. As to the privacy of your medical records – forget about it. They will all be digitized and available to any beaurcrat that wants them. If you think the worries about being audited by the IRS if you did not get along and go along were bad, think about how much more pressure the government can bring to bear when the hold the right to life or death decisions over your loved ones. (3) Independent thought – this is almost laughable after POTUS characterizes those who dare disagree with him as mobs and continues to carry on character assassination of those who dared to oppose him.

A good house cleaning goes a long way to sending a message. But then the libs will just say the voting was rigged by Rush Limbaugh.

The intellectual position is that the rabble have no idea what's good for them, and it is the role of the intellectual to do the thinking for the rabble. And if the rabble doesn't follow the "leadership" of the intellectual with total acceptance, then the rabble is simply ungrateful, ignorant and need more measures of control placed upon them. That "control" is more government, higher taxes (so the rabble must seek their "daily bread" from the national bakery) and increased propaganda (where's the "free press" now?).

Yep, it's "change." Do you believe in it now?

Originally Posted by billethkid

Do you think the recent activity in the town hall meetings is really an orchestrated effort as stated by some representatives?
Even the WH spokesman, Gibbs, has labled the activity as "mob" activity distracting the message. [snip]
btk

It probably is orchestrated... by ACORN...!