[rubicon]

Six stages of automation for automobiles.

Level 0 No automation. total human control

Level 1 Driver Assistance some driving functions with single application such as cruise control

Level 2 Partial Automation the automobile can perform one or more function at the same time including steering and acceleration. However the driver remains alert and in control

Level 3 Conditional Automation( Under Development) the automobile drives itself under certain conditions but requires human interventions upon request with sufficient time to respond. Here the driver isn't expected to constantly remain alert.

Level 4 High Automation ( Under Development) the automobile performs all critical tasks and monitors the roadway conditions the entire trip, and does not require the driver to intervene. But self-driving is limited to certain locations and environments.

Level 5 Full Automation (Under Development) The Holy Grail. the automobile drives itself from departure to destination. The driver (human) is out of the loop. The automobile is as good or better than the human and steering wheels and pedals are potentially unnecessary.

1, With what level of automation would you have total confidence?

2. Any prediction ( year) as to when an automobile manufacturer will reach Level 5?

3. What effect do you believe a fully automated automobile will have on:

a) traffic laws
b) liability issues
c) auto repairs
d) insurance
e) driver passenger/ occupants
f) designs of roads and inter-states

Personal Best Regards:

[Schaumburger]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Six stages of automation for automobiles.

Level 0 No automation. total human control

Level 1 Driver Assistance some driving functions with single application such as cruise control

Level 2 Partial Automation the automobile can perform one or more function at the same time including steering and acceleration. However the driver remains alert and in control

Level 3 Conditional Automation( Under Development) the automobile drives itself under certain conditions but requires human interventions upon request with sufficient time to respond. Here the driver isn't expected to constantly remain alert.

Level 4 High Automation ( Under Development) the automobile performs all critical tasks and monitors the roadway conditions the entire trip, and does not require the driver to intervene. But self-driving is limited to certain locations and environments.

Level 5 Full Automation (Under Development) The Holy Grail. the automobile drives itself from departure to destination. The driver (human) is out of the loop. The automobile is as good or better than the human and steering wheels and pedals are potentially unnecessary.

1, With what level of automation would you have total confidence?

2. Any prediction ( year) as to when an automobile manufacturer will reach Level 5?

3. What effect do you believe a fully automated automobile will have on:

a) traffic laws
b) liability issues
c) auto repairs
d) insurance
e) driver passenger/ occupants
f) designs of roads and inter-states

Personal Best Regards:

Very interesting topic. My opinion...we will be a level 5 within 10 years. Within 20 years driver's education classes will no longer be necessary unless someone really wants to know how to manually operate a car. So your future grandchildren may never take driver's ed in high school.

I now drive 48 miles round trip (in suburban Chicago traffic) 4 days a week to my job. I would love a self-driving car right now! By the time self-driving cars are readily available I will hopefully be living in The Villages.

[villagetinker]

There are many problems that need to be solved with 'self driving' cars, for example:
Hand signals from a police officer
What to do when traffic lights are out or not fully operational
Incomplete of faded lane markings
Other cars on the road that are NOT automated, how will the self driving car handle the quirks of human drivers?
Snow, and other phenomenon that interfere with road markings, traction, etc.
Step 5 requires that ALL of the other vehicles be in communication with all of the other cars in the vicinity

IMHO, cars with various safety features are a good idea, self driving will only be practical in very limited and carefully controlled circumstances.

As for the last question, I do not expect to see a real self driving car in my lifetime.

[Wiotte]

I'll pass.


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[Barefoot]

I have a Subaru SUV with "Eyesight Technology".
I was initially very uncomfortable with Eyesight, but have grown to love it. It's really neat!
For instance, Eyesight Technology brakes if I get too close to the car in front of me.
And then it resumes cruise control when danger is past.

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I have a Subaru SUV with "Eyesight Technology".
I was initially very uncomfortable with Eyesight, but have grown to love it. It's really neat!
For instance, Eyesight Technology brakes if I get too close to the car in front of me.
And then it resumes cruise control when danger is past.

I had the same type of system on my 2004 45' Motorhome. It was great.

[rivaridger1]

I's going to happen, but my bet is the great great grand sons will still beg to drive their daddy's Vet.

[rubicon]

1, With what level of automation would you have total confidence?

2. Any prediction ( year) as to when an automobile manufacturer will reach Level 5?

3. What effect do you believe a fully automated automobile will have on:

a) traffic laws
b) liability issues
c) auto repairs
d) insurance
e) driver passenger/ occupants
f) designs of roads and inter-states

1) I can't get past level 0 won't even use my cruise control.

2) with the acknowledgment that I am technological disadvantaged and given the design flaws with technologies from radio to refrigerators I question whether we will ever see a fully automated vehicle free ranging

3 a) traffic laws will apply in the same manner slow in school zones, etc

b) liability issues I predict plaintiff attorneys are going to be having a field day with manufacturers and their suppliers, repair shops, and owners of these vehicles an other vehicles involved as well as government agencies maintain roads, traffic etc.

c) auto repair will become highly technical and is going to require people with advanced education. the day of the ubiquitous "grease monkey" will be at an end

d) insurance Insurers are going to have to learn to underwrite auto overages all over again. In fact any peripheral relationship to automated cars is gong to be subject to new underwriting criteria ( cities insured ,etc)

e) driver/occupants with the passage of time people will become more confident and more savvy with the new technologies and what we view with skepticism will be everyday norm to t future generation because human are very adaptable

f) designs of road and interstates this is gong to be a major undertaking. One wonders if in fact it will cause compaction and more people will e living a city/urban life .

Indeed I wish I were going to be around for the ride (pun intended )

[tcxr750]

The number of people focused on texting and personal grooming while driving has increased over the years speeding the need for those who choose not to drive to buy AV. The trucking industry also will profit by AV semi's. The downside? Dehumanization of the transportation experience.
I'm somewhat concerned that based on the historic hacking of the internet that was once deemed secure, the hacking of the AV could result in a system "CRASH" of epic proportions.
We can always relay on the voices of "Siri" and "Watson" to comfort us in our time of stress and need.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by tcxr750

I'm somewhat concerned that based on the historic hacking of the internet that was once deemed secure, the hacking of the AV could result in a system "CRASH" of epic proportions.

My first reaction was "No-one could possibly want that".
Unfortunately, there are some people who live to create chaos ... a sobering thought.

[Mrs. Robinson]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I have a Subaru SUV with "Eyesight Technology".
I was initially very uncomfortable with Eyesight, but have grown to love it. It's really neat!
For instance, Eyesight Technology brakes if I get too close to the car in front of me.
And then it resumes cruise control when danger is past.

Interesting. I have the same thing on my car -- a PriusV.
On mine I can set three different levels of distance between the car in front of me and my car.

[Mrs. Robinson]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

I'll pass.

On the left, I assume???