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"You know, Richard Nixon tried to use the Justice Department to punish his political enemies," Jeffrey Toobin said Friday night. Former Office of Government Ethics head Walter Shaub added: "This is the stuff that authoritarianism is made of... It's simply the scariest thing that I've seen happen so far in this administration. He just simply seems to have no appreciation for, or interest in, the importance of the independence of the DOJ."
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"You know, Richard Nixon tried to use the Justice Department to punish his political enemies," Jeffrey Toobin said Friday night. Former Office of Government Ethics head Walter Shaub added: "This is the stuff that authoritarianism is made of... It's simply the scariest thing that I've seen happen so far in this administration. He just simply seems to have no appreciation for, or interest in, the importance of the independence of the DOJ."
Donald John Trump does scare me quite a bit with his complete disregard for the US Constitution. This man swore an oath to it and just uses it like toilet paper.
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I believe he suggested the DOJ look into the DNC and Crooked Hillary. If he directed the DOJ that would be a different thing. Name one Constitutional Amendment he has actually broken.


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I believe he suggested the DOJ look into the DNC and Crooked Hillary. If he directed the DOJ that would be a different thing. Name one Constitutional Amendment he has actually broken.


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Google Donald John Trump and the US Constitution.

The Constitution vs. Trump | Trump | Al Jazeera

Donald Trump: A One-Man Constitutional Crisis | American Civil Liberties Union

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/12/emol...stitution.html

Property of the People's Operation 45 exposes Donald Trump’s violation of Constitution’s Anti-Bribery Clause, calls on Department of Justice to Investigate — Operation 45
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Let's see....subverting the attorney general, who serves at his pleasure. Could be, with other evidence obstruction ?

He IS eroding our entire justice systtem.

President Trump on Friday repeatedly called on the Department of Justice and FBI to investigate his Democratic political opponents, a breach of the traditional executive branch boundaries designed to prevent the criminal justice system from becoming politicized.

Trump urged federal law enforcement to “do what is right and proper” by launching criminal probes of former presidential rival Hillary Clinton and her party — a surprising use of his bully pulpit considering he acknowledged a day earlier that presidents are not supposed to intervene in such decisions.


Trump breaches boundaries by saying DOJ should be ‘going after’ Democrats - The Washington Post

Better question is what United States department has he not demeaned, and keep in mind, he does this in full view of the world, and most times quotes the now exposed Russian bits.

He has demeaned ALL United States intelligence departments, the court system, any member of congress who disagrees with him, war heroes. It appears he feels he was elected king.

There are reasons that for over 200 years, the President stayed away from the Justice System. His ego tells him that he, and he alone in history is above it.
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"WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) today released the following statement on the importance of an independent justice system after reports that President Donald J. Trump refused to rule out firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions if the Department of Justice does not investigate what the president wishes.

“Like me, most Americans hope that our justice system is independent and free of political interference,” said Corker. “President Trump's pressuring of the Justice Department and FBI to pursue cases against his adversaries and calling for punishment before trials take place are totally inappropriate and not only undermine our justice system but erode the American people’s confidence in our institutions.”"

Corker Statement on Importance of an Independent Justice System - News - - United States Senator Bob Corker
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"You know, Richard Nixon tried to use the Justice Department to punish his political enemies," Jeffrey Toobin said Friday night. Former Office of Government Ethics head Walter Shaub added: "This is the stuff that authoritarianism is made of... It's simply the scariest thing that I've seen happen so far in this administration. He just simply seems to have no appreciation for, or interest in, the importance of the independence of the DOJ."
And exactly what do you believe Obama was doing with the appointments of Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch ( Fast & Furious, refusal to charge New black Panther Party, tarmac meeting between bill and Loretta , etc etc, etc,

Hypocrisy Hypocrisy Hypocrisy . Its instinctive in progressive breeding .

Secondly while Trump has expressed his displeasure with Sessions he has done nothing to interfere with Sessions handling of the DOJ

third just because something is scary doesn't mean it is dangerous but then

many on the progressive side frequently seek safe spaces.

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And exactly what do you believe Obama was doing with the appointments of Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch ( Fast & Furious, refusal to charge New black Panther Party, tarmac meeting between bill and Loretta , etc etc, etc,

Hypocrisy Hypocrisy Hypocrisy . Its instinctive in progressive breeding .

Secondly while Trump has expressed his displeasure with Sessions he has done nothing to interfere with Sessions handling of the DOJ

third just because something is scary doesn't mean it is dangerous but then

many on the progressive side frequently seek safe spaces.

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You know, some day you will need to grow up and act like an adult.

I spoke out on the New Black panther case in the old political forum. It is history. Both Fast and Furious and the famous tarmac meeting bothered me, and I have said so.

Bottom line is that is over. Hanging on to that kind of stuff is sophomoric at best.

We are confronted with a President who publicly, and through the world demeans not only the justice department but basically every institution of the United States. We are faced with an external enemy who uses bots to influence not only us, BUT our President as well. To publicly say what he said this past week is to promote anti constitutional, anti US behavior. To my knowledge, the OBama WH did not announce what action they wanted the Justice Department to take, nor take sides publicly with on going cases.

The man is destroying the country, and I am not being dramatic, he truely is. And that is simply based on what we know.

He is not promoting change...he is promoting anti US.....he is not draining the swamp, but pouring on top....we have a very very serious problem facing us...many are beginning to understand as shown with polls, but folks like you who actually support his lies and accusations are acting on behalf of his anti us behavior.

Read the verified and validated bot stories...compare them to Fox News and Trumps tweets and statements. It is scary and eerie.

[I]Actually your refusal to ever show where you get your information from, and the absolute sameness of what you say and what we now know the bots said.....your comments that are right on the same schedule as they are is eerie.[/I]

You ignore what is being done to this country NOW and validated while you keep harping on the past....a past that cannot be repeated, nor had lasting effect. You ignore what is in front of you, and are in fact so twisted up about the past, the nation is dying quickly.

I hated Vietnam but its over

You especially should be enraged at the Russian bot stories, quoted by both you and Fox and the President. It is scary how even the phrasing was spot on. In Philly, they were very active and each day we hear more and more. If you are angry about OBama still after a year, you should be livid to have Russian teens controlling what you post.

Your hate for anything not extreme, and especially progressive is legendary, but like wearing your conspiracy laden heart on your sleeves. You are being "used"

I might add, and not simply as an "add", but nothing....nothing you mention relative to the Democratic Party, OBama or Clinton can even get close to a President not only surrounded by people with DEEP nefarious ties with one foreign country, who also happens invaded our country to affect elections, but who even refused and still delays any action against such country. You make consider that politics...I will reserve my word to describe it, but your concerns pale with what is unfolding.

AND you still support it all
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You know, some day you will need to grow up and act like an adult.

I spoke out on the New Black panther case in the old political forum. It is history. Both Fast and Furious and the famous tarmac meeting bothered me, and I have said so.

Bottom line is that is over. Hanging on to that kind of stuff is sophomoric at best.

We are confronted with a President who publicly, and through the world demeans not only the justice department but basically every institution of the United States. We are faced with an external enemy who uses bots to influence not only us, BUT our President as well. To publicly say what he said this past week is to promote anti constitutional, anti US behavior. To my knowledge, the OBama WH did not announce what action they wanted the Justice Department to take, nor take sides publicly with on going cases.

The man is destroying the country, and I am not being dramatic, he truely is. And that is simply based on what we know.

He is not promoting change...he is promoting anti US.....he is not draining the swamp, but pouring on top....we have a very very serious problem facing us...many are beginning to understand as shown with polls, but folks like you who actually support his lies and accusations are acting on behalf of his anti us behavior.

Read the verified and validated bot stories...compare them to Fox News and Trumps tweets and statements. It is scary and eerie.

[I]Actually your refusal to ever show where you get your information from, and the absolute sameness of what you say and what we now know the bots said.....your comments that are right on the same schedule as they are is eerie.[/I]

You ignore what is being done to this country NOW and validated while you keep harping on the past....a past that cannot be repeated, nor had lasting effect. You ignore what is in front of you, and are in fact so twisted up about the past, the nation is dying quickly.

I hated Vietnam but its over

You especially should be enraged at the Russian bot stories, quoted by both you and Fox and the President. It is scary how even the phrasing was spot on. In Philly, they were very active and each day we hear more and more. If you are angry about OBama still after a year, you should be livid to have Russian teens controlling what you post.

Your hate for anything not extreme, and especially progressive is legendary, but like wearing your conspiracy laden heart on your sleeves. You are being "used"



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"WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) today released the following statement on the importance of an independent justice system after reports that President Donald J. Trump refused to rule out firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions if the Department of Justice does not investigate what the president wishes.

“Like me, most Americans hope that our justice system is independent and free of political interference,” said Corker. “President Trump's pressuring of the Justice Department and FBI to pursue cases against his adversaries and calling for punishment before trials take place are totally inappropriate and not only undermine our justice system but erode the American people’s confidence in our institutions.”"

Corker Statement on Importance of an Independent Justice System - News - - United States Senator Bob Corker
My favorite Trump quote this week, "I'm the only one who matters"!!
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"You know, Richard Nixon tried to use the Justice Department to punish his political enemies," Jeffrey Toobin said Friday night. Former Office of Government Ethics head Walter Shaub added: "This is the stuff that authoritarianism is made of... It's simply the scariest thing that I've seen happen so far in this administration. He just simply seems to have no appreciation for, or interest in, the importance of the independence of the DOJ."
Ooooo. Very scary, go hug talt.
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"You know, Richard Nixon tried to use the Justice Department to punish his political enemies," Jeffrey Toobin said Friday night. Former Office of Government Ethics head Walter Shaub added: "This is the stuff that authoritarianism is made of... It's simply the scariest thing that I've seen happen so far in this administration. He just simply seems to have no appreciation for, or interest in, the importance of the independence of the DOJ."
You mean like Obama used irs and 17 Leo agencies against his enemies?
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You mean like Obama used irs and 17 Leo agencies against his enemies?
I was going to ask for credible links from this poster but now I see it is one of the trolls who must have the duty this evening.

He would not know a credible link or back up if he saw it, and is anti american thus......no questions.....
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Default Anyone who doesn't want our nation to become a dictatorship...

SHOULD be concerned about Trump's tantrums and whining.

Donald Trump laments he's 'not supposed' to influence DOJ, FBI - CNNPolitics
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President Donald Trump said Thursday he wishes he could get involved with the Justice Department and direct it toward Hillary Clinton.

"The saddest thing is that because I'm the President of the United States, I am not supposed to be involved with the Justice Department," Trump said. "I am not supposed to be involved with the FBI."
Just the fact that ANY POTUS would lament that they cannot direct the DOJ or FBI to carry out their direct bidding...should give patriotic Americans a serious pause.

What Trump is advocating, is that he be able to use these entities as Putin uses his.

Which is one of the reasons Chump admires Putin so much.

And for those of you who even have a thought that you agree, ya better think a little further down the road...when the next Dem POTUS is in office.

Would you still be comfortable if a Democratic POTUS...had that kind of power?

Nahhh...I didn't think so.




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You mean like Obama used irs and 17 Leo agencies against his enemies?



You're not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer...are you?




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