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Did don jr. Just sink his dad’s russia defense?

 
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:27 PM
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Donald Trump Jr.’s overeager response to a Russian intermediary’s offer for dirt on Hillary Clinton—“I love it”—essentially ensured that his subsequent meeting with Kremlin-connected lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya would become a key focus for federal investigators. Trump Jr., his lawyers, the White House, and his father have all dismissed that meeting, which took place at Trump Tower in June 2016, as meaningless.

But in a two-and-a-half-hour long interview with Bloomberg in Moscow, Veselnitskaya offered a much more damning account of the meeting, in which she says Don Jr. hinted at a quid pro quo deal.

Veselnitskaya said Trump Jr. indicated that, if his father won the election, the Magnitsky Act—a retaliatory measure the U.S. leveled against Moscow, blacklisting suspected human-rights abusers—would be re-examined.

Veselnitskaya wants to share her account with the Senate Judiciary Committee on the condition that her testimony be made public. Lawyers for Prevezon Holdings Ltd. had earlier sought an order granting Veselnitskaya, permission to come to the U.S. for the hearing, which was denied. They then asked permission to have her call in, which U.S. District Judge William Pauley granted in a ruling late Monday.

Sounds like the Russians are angry they didn't get what they bargained for when Congress denied Trump permission to lift those sanctions. LOL.

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Old 11-07-2017, 04:38 PM
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Interesting ,when it comes to the Trump Russian connection it is always posed as a theory such as the topic's heading here "Did Don Jr."?

Yet we know with Clinton that she did (....)

We know special Prosecutor Muller was head of the DOJ when the uranium deal went down and that he was closely aligned with James Comey and that James Comey international leaked information to force an investigation

yet here we are wasting time money and setting aside important national priorities suffering fools

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Interesting ,when it comes to the Trump Russian connection it is always posed as a theory such as the topic's heading here "Did Don Jr."?

Yet we know with Clinton that she did (....)

We know special Prosecutor Muller was head of the DOJ when the uranium deal went down and that he was closely aligned with James Comey and that James Comey international leaked information to force an investigation

yet here we are wasting time money and setting aside important national priorities suffering fools

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Enjoy your break ?

You and yours are left
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:24 PM
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Interesting ,when it comes to the Trump Russian connection it is always posed as a theory such as the topic's heading here "Did Don Jr."?

Yet we know with Clinton that she did (....)

We know special Prosecutor Muller was head of the DOJ when the uranium deal went down and that he was closely aligned with James Comey and that James Comey international leaked information to force an investigation

yet here we are wasting time money and setting aside important national priorities suffering fools

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Seriously, the "uranium deal"? What a joke. No uranium ever left the country. It was not weapons grade uranium. It was negotiated by a low level (you might even say "coffee boy") associate. It is non-news except in the minds of feverish right wing talk show hosts eager to divert attention from the very real Russian investigation.

According to the conspiracy theory, Clinton received money from several people affiliated with the uranium mine deal, and then pushed the CFIUS to approve it in return.

The problem is, that’s not how CFIUS works. Clinton’s vote would have been only one of nine, as the reviews are run by the Treasury Department and other Cabinet secretaries get to weigh in.

“The secretary of state is one, and frankly not usually a very powerful, member of the committee,” said Steve Grundman, a fellow at the Atlantic Council who dealt with CFIUS reviews while serving in the Pentagon in the 1990s. “You have to remember with CFIUS, the first letter stands for the committee.”

Also, Cabinet secretaries almost never deal with the committee themselves, instead delegating to underlings. For Clinton, that delegate was the assistant secretary of state for economic and business affairs, Jose Fernandez.

“Secretary Clinton never intervened with me on any CFIUS matter,” Fernandez told Time in 2015. Two former State Department officials who served under Clinton told Newsweek that Clinton would have been notified of a CFIUS decision only if there were disagreement among members of the committee, which would push a final decision to the president. The CFIUS decision on the Uranium One deal, however, was unanimous—all nine representatives agreed to approve it.
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Amazing how much knowledge (?) some seem to have to defend Clinton.....NO MATTER WHAT!
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Amazing how much knowledge (?) some seem to have to defend Clinton.....NO MATTER WHAT!
It's easy when one knows how to research, a commonality of the well educated. The claim that Clinton received big money for the Clinton Foundation from those tied to the Tenex–Uranium One deal is also tenuous. PolitiFact reviewed that claim, which was floated in a book by an editor at the far-right media outlet Breitbart, and found that almost all the money came from Frank Giustra, who sold his stake in Uranium One before Clinton became secretary of state.
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Now that Rubicon tried deflection of the thread to Mrs. Clinton, let's get back on track to Donnie Jr.

He went to the Trump Tower meeting with the Russian lawyer in order to obtain damage to the Clinton campaign. He took a message to the Russians that IF his Daddy got elected, the Russian sanctions would be revisited.

No way around it! It was a quid pro quo deal! Even though the Russian lawyer did not produce the "dirt", it definitely proves collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

It also proves lying on Donnie Jr's part to Mueller's investigation.
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Now that Rubicon tried deflection of the thread to Mrs. Clinton, let's get back on track to Donnie Jr.

He went to the Trump Tower meeting with the Russian lawyer in order to obtain damage to the Clinton campaign. He took a message to the Russians that IF his Daddy got elected, the Russian sanctions would be revisited.

No way around it! It was a quid pro quo deal! Even though the Russian lawyer did not produce the "dirt", it definitely proves collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

It also proves lying on Donnie Jr's part to Mueller's investigation.
Rubicon actually believes that HE is not part of the problem, and that those foul mouthed trolls are not his closest allies.

I actually cannot profess legally what constitutes collusion, but I know that almost 100% of that campaign has ties directly and personally to Russia, no other country.

It also appears that most of them have terrible memories, and very little respect for the truth.

The biggest question is what we don't know yet.
 

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