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Old 02-03-2019, 09:26 AM
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From today's Daily Sun:
"Sumter County has about 14,000 seasonal residents, but that number is expected to grow to about 24,000 by 2045.

Lake has an estimated 22,000 snowbirds, which could hit about 35,000 in the next 25 years, while Marion’s seasonal resident population of 18,000 could reach 23,000"


This seems contrary to what economists say about many Baby Boomers staying put. I'm somewhat relieved knowing I probably won't live long enough to fight all those people for a parking space.
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:34 AM
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From today's Daily Sun:
"Sumter County has about 14,000 seasonal residents, but that number is expected to grow to about 24,000 by 2045.

Lake has an estimated 22,000 snowbirds, which could hit about 35,000 in the next 25 years, while Marion’s seasonal resident population of 18,000 could reach 23,000"


This seems contrary to what economists say about many Baby Boomers staying put. I'm somewhat relieved knowing I probably won't live long enough to fight all those people for a parking space.
The Villages will be extremely spread out by 2045. They probably will still be building.
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Old 02-03-2019, 10:07 AM
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I think in 25 years there will also be one or two more counties involved in this growth and most of us following this post will be looking at it from above, or maybe from below.
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From today's Daily Sun:
"Sumter County has about 14,000 seasonal residents, but that number is expected to grow to about 24,000 by 2045.

Lake has an estimated 22,000 snowbirds, which could hit about 35,000 in the next 25 years, while Marion’s seasonal resident population of 18,000 could reach 23,000"


This seems contrary to what economists say about many Baby Boomers staying put. I'm somewhat relieved knowing I probably won't live long enough to fight all those people for a parking space.
These estimates take in more than just TV.
Source of this data: Bureau of Economic & Business
Research at the University of Florida.
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14000 seasonal residents in Sumter County seems low. I think somewhere else in the article it said 12000 of those are in The Villages. It certainly seems and feels like there are more than 12000 additional people here in the winter vs the summer.
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From today's Daily Sun:
"Sumter County has about 14,000 seasonal residents, but that number is expected to grow to about 24,000 by 2045.

Lake has an estimated 22,000 snowbirds, which could hit about 35,000 in the next 25 years, while Marion’s seasonal resident population of 18,000 could reach 23,000"


This seems contrary to what economists say about many Baby Boomers staying put. I'm somewhat relieved knowing I probably won't live long enough to fight all those people for a parking space.
Yes I don’t think many of us will have to worry about what life is like in 2045.
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:16 AM
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Yes I don’t think many of us will have to worry about what life is like in 2045.
Your kids and grandkids will though. Remember - this is an active senior community with VERY little housing for younger folks. If you take up too much real estate, there won't be need for public schools there. Not enough kids to warrant them. And people working minimum wage jobs won't be driving an hour to the local supermarket to stock shelves. Only seniors living in the community will be available. How many of you can lift 30-pound boxes for a 5-hour shift 3-5 days per week?

And all those waiter and waitress and bartender jobs at all those restaurants you all love going to. I hope you are AMAZING tippers, because if the community spreads too far, no one living on the outskirts will want to drive in to work for sub-minimum plus tips during midweek.

But hey it won't affect you personally, so you don't have to care about it right? Let your kids and grandkids bear the burden, it'll be their problem.

Or - you can remind the developers that this is supposed to be a *community* and not a *municipality.* That's what you paid for, and that's what you're entitled to. You can speak with your votes when the board convenes to elect new board members.
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Your kids and grandkids will though. Remember - this is an active senior community with VERY little housing for younger folks. If you take up too much real estate, there won't be need for public schools there. Not enough kids to warrant them. And people working minimum wage jobs won't be driving an hour to the local supermarket to stock shelves. Only seniors living in the community will be available. How many of you can lift 30-pound boxes for a 5-hour shift 3-5 days per week?

And all those waiter and waitress and bartender jobs at all those restaurants you all love going to. I hope you are AMAZING tippers, because if the community spreads too far, no one living on the outskirts will want to drive in to work for sub-minimum plus tips during midweek.

But hey it won't affect you personally, so you don't have to care about it right? Let your kids and grandkids bear the burden, it'll be their problem.

Or - you can remind the developers that this is supposed to be a *community* and not a *municipality.* That's what you paid for, and that's what you're entitled to. You can speak with your votes when the board convenes to elect new board members.
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Your kids and grandkids will though. Remember - this is an active senior community with VERY little housing for younger folks. If you take up too much real estate, there won't be need for public schools there. Not enough kids to warrant them. And people working minimum wage jobs won't be driving an hour to the local supermarket to stock shelves. Only seniors living in the community will be available. How many of you can lift 30-pound boxes for a 5-hour shift 3-5 days per week?

And all those waiter and waitress and bartender jobs at all those restaurants you all love going to. I hope you are AMAZING tippers, because if the community spreads too far, no one living on the outskirts will want to drive in to work for sub-minimum plus tips during midweek.

But hey it won't affect you personally, so you don't have to care about it right? Let your kids and grandkids bear the burden, it'll be their problem.

Or - you can remind the developers that this is supposed to be a *community* and not a *municipality.* That's what you paid for, and that's what you're entitled to. You can speak with your votes when the board convenes to elect new board members.
There are hundreds of apartments in the works as of right now, on 441, on 466A, and on 301, Rolling Acres, 44, etc. all around TV and most are not limited to senior living. There will be children and there will be a larger work force in the very near future. There has also been talk about apartments in the southern Lake County Leesburg section yet to be built. Those who do the planning realize what the needs are and they are doing a great job in making sure all will be taken care of.
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QUOTE=Jazuela;1621866]Your kids and grandkids will though. Remember - this is an active senior community with VERY little housing for younger folks. If you take up too much real estate, there won't be need for public schools there. Not enough kids to warrant them. And people working minimum wage jobs won't be driving an hour to the local supermarket to stock shelves. Only seniors living in the community will be available. How many of you can lift 30-pound boxes for a 5-hour shift 3-5 days per week?

And all those waiter and waitress and bartender jobs at all those restaurants you all love going to. I hope you are AMAZING tippers, because if the community spreads too far, no one living on the outskirts will want to drive in to work for sub-minimum plus tips during midweek.

But hey it won't affect you personally, so you don't have to care about it right? Let your kids and grandkids bear the burden, it'll be their problem.

Or - you can remind the developers that this is supposed to be a *community* and not a *municipality.* That's what you paid for, and that's what you're entitled to. You can speak with your votes when the board convenes to elect new board members.[/QUOTE]


We Villagers pay taxes to the areas we live in that support schools in that area.. We Villagers support backpack programs( our village collects weekly) and volunteer tutor in the local schools. We Villagers fill barrels in the regional rec centers with clothes, bed clothes and new pajamas for those who are homeless. The Villages Inc. provide jobs for many, many people. Growth and industrialization has cut world poverty and hunger in half since 1990. Look it up. I didn't believe it either when my grandson pointed it out. It also causes more greenhouse gases. There are always pluses and minuses to things. Take care of yourself, take care of your own so that your family will not be a burden to others. Save your money, reuse and recycle. Help others quietly. Always vote for school bonds. We each have our own ethics and standards and most people have loving hearts.

Sumter County was one of the poorer counties in Florida until the Morse family arrived.

P.S. Our kids will sell our house, make a profit and seek dreams of their own.
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Your kids and grandkids will though. Remember - this is an active senior community with VERY little housing for younger folks. If you take up too much real estate, there won't be need for public schools there. Not enough kids to warrant them. And people working minimum wage jobs won't be driving an hour to the local supermarket to stock shelves. Only seniors living in the community will be available. How many of you can lift 30-pound boxes for a 5-hour shift 3-5 days per week?

And all those waiter and waitress and bartender jobs at all those restaurants you all love going to. I hope you are AMAZING tippers, because if the community spreads too far, no one living on the outskirts will want to drive in to work for sub-minimum plus tips during midweek.

But hey it won't affect you personally, so you don't have to care about it right? Let your kids and grandkids bear the burden, it'll be their problem.

Or - you can remind the developers that this is supposed to be a *community* and not a *municipality.* That's what you paid for, and that's what you're entitled to. You can speak with your votes when the board convenes to elect new board members.
Based on a lot of your posts, you obviously don't live here. Many of the people working today in restaurants etc live in Lady Lake, Ocala, Summerfield etc and they don't seem to have trouble finding places they can afford to live. As far as tips are concerned I spoke to a waitress here I have known for some time just the other day (Saturday) and she told me she had made about 250 per day in tips the preceding week on the days she worked. She graduated with a 4 year degree, took a full time job in Marion County and quit it because she made more money as a waitress here. She typically works about 6 hours a day.

Honestly, I think you might want to look elsewhere for your nirvana as this place just doesn't seem to suit you. No disrespect, but this place isn't for everybody.
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You are so right Graciegirl.
Now Jazuela, I was speaking with the painter workers who were painting my house. Both of them drive from around the Orlando area 1 hour away to work here because the wages are so good and one of them quit his job (in another field) closer to home because of the opportunities in TV. The Sherwin Williams territory rep who partners with this contractor is grateful for the business and job generated by the TV growth. The rep and his wife live in the family development by Rainey Trail and his wife teaches at the charter school and their children attend the charter school. This place is an economic engine providing jobs and opportunities for many people. By the way I also know an individual who quit being a lawyer and now is a TV real estate agent because it provides him with a better career path. So social philosophy in a vacuum may sound compassionate but it does not match real peoples lives who work in TV
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Your kids and grandkids will though. Remember - this is an active senior community with VERY little housing for younger folks. If you take up too much real estate, there won't be need for public schools there. Not enough kids to warrant them. And people working minimum wage jobs won't be driving an hour to the local supermarket to stock shelves. Only seniors living in the community will be available. How many of you can lift 30-pound boxes for a 5-hour shift 3-5 days per week?

And all those waiter and waitress and bartender jobs at all those restaurants you all love going to. I hope you are AMAZING tippers, because if the community spreads too far, no one living on the outskirts will want to drive in to work for sub-minimum plus tips during midweek.

But hey it won't affect you personally, so you don't have to care about it right? Let your kids and grandkids bear the burden, it'll be their problem.

Or - you can remind the developers that this is supposed to be a *community* and not a *municipality.* That's what you paid for, and that's what you're entitled to. You can speak with your votes when the board convenes to elect new board members.
I think you are taking a very narrow view.

The more The Villages grows, the more outskirts there will be, and the more job opportunities there will be. I think it's actually going to get better for people "on the outskirts." Along with that will come more housing, or people already living in these new outskirts will find better jobs with The Villages than they have now.

There will always be a need for schools both inside and out of TV.

Methinks you don't want to like The Villages. I hope you can talk your husband into a compromise. Or maybe give in and stop fighting it and try to take a more positive attitude. Find something enjoyable to do if you get here.
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Your kids and grandkids will though. Remember - this is an active senior community with VERY little housing for younger folks. If you take up too much real estate, there won't be need for public schools there. Not enough kids to warrant them. And people working minimum wage jobs won't be driving an hour to the local supermarket to stock shelves. Only seniors living in the community will be available. How many of you can lift 30-pound boxes for a 5-hour shift 3-5 days per week?

And all those waiter and waitress and bartender jobs at all those restaurants you all love going to. I hope you are AMAZING tippers, because if the community spreads too far, no one living on the outskirts will want to drive in to work for sub-minimum plus tips during midweek.

But hey it won't affect you personally, so you don't have to care about it right? Let your kids and grandkids bear the burden, it'll be their problem.

Or - you can remind the developers that this is supposed to be a *community* and not a *municipality.* That's what you paid for, and that's what you're entitled to. You can speak with your votes when the board convenes to elect new board members.
TV supports our charter schools, attending sporting events, and volunteering. Our schools are filled with the children of those who work in TV.

There are more younger people living here than you realize, many work from home and have come here to enjoy our lifestyle, something you are having a hard time with. We already live here you don’t need to talk us out of buying.
Sadly you need to convince your Other half to find a place you will not be miserable on a daily basis. Or at best make your own new path and move maybe on your own to a place that makes you happy.
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