Which CDD has most/least restrictive covenants?

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Old 03-08-2023, 09:15 AM
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The monthly POA news as of March 2023 (POA of The Villages | Property Owners Association of the Villages) shared a story about the number of complaints, violations, and public hearings. The article discusses that not all CDDs have the same regulations and that "violations" are treated differently (e.g. lawn ornaments).

So, last year it looks like there were 6,473 complaints submitted (ranging from 419-760 per CDD), mostly anonymously.

Which of the 13 CDDs has the most restrictive and least restrictive POA covenants? Is there a summary document that shows the various differences, or is it "buyer beware" to read through multiple documents?
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Old 03-08-2023, 09:58 AM
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Hi,
The monthly POA news as of March 2023 (POA of The Villages | Property Owners Association of the Villages) shared a story about the number of complaints, violations, and public hearings. The article discusses that not all CDDs have the same regulations and that "violations" are treated differently (e.g. lawn ornaments).

So, last year it looks like there were 6,473 complaints submitted (ranging from 419-760 per CDD), mostly anonymously.

Which of the 13 CDDs has the most restrictive and least restrictive POA covenants? Is there a summary document that shows the various differences, or is it "buyer beware" to read through multiple documents?
First of all, they are not POA covenants but Declaration of Restrictions. I have never seen a analysis of the differences between District deed restrictions. If you are really interested, you could read thru them all taking notes.
They are all available on District Gov site.
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First of all, they are not POA covenants but Declaration of Restrictions. I have never seen a analysis of the differences between District deed restrictions. If you are really interested, you could read thru them all taking notes.
They are all available on District Gov site.
So what are the fine points between a "covenant" (something, I would think, most of us are used to in any properties we've purchased in any location, and "declarations" ? Is declarations" a word that does not carry the same legal weight as "covenant" ? Perhaps the wording allows the villages more latitude in "enforcement", or ignore all together ? Just curious why we differ from the wording of the majority of communities. Anyone know ?
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IMHO, the older sections appear to have more lenient deed restrictions, as they can have pink flamingos, it appears these may have grown more restrictive in following years. As noted above you can read all of them to see for yourself. I have no idea of the restrictions in the areas south of 44.
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IMHO, the older sections appear to have more lenient deed restrictions, as they can have pink flamingos, it appears these may have grown more restrictive in following years. As noted above you can read all of them to see for yourself. I have no idea of the restrictions in the areas south of 44.
If I'm not mistaken that has to do with the bylaws or ordinances of the town of Lady lake or lake County.

One or the other also prohibits bonds on new homes as well.
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If I'm not mistaken that has to do with the bylaws or ordinances of the town of Lady lake or lake County.

One or the other also prohibits bonds on new homes as well.
Pretty sure the Developer would not have bought thousands of acres in Lake County (Leesburg) is they didn’t allow a bond.
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If I'm not mistaken that has to do with the bylaws or ordinances of the town of Lady lake or lake County.

One or the other also prohibits bonds on new homes as well.
I don't know about "prohibits." What I do know are these facts:

Homes within Lady Lake do not have a bond -- Villages of Country Club Hills, Orange Blossom Gardens, Silver Lake, Del Mar, El Cortez, La Reynalda, La Zamora, Mira Mesa, Valle Verde.

Lake County homes outside of Lady Lake have a bond -- Villages of Pine Hills, Pine Ridge, Dabney, Newell, Lake Denham.
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All of the bonds are mostly, if not completely, paid off north of 466, which can be an attraction to purchase north of 466. That said, District 1 probably has the most lax deed restrictions.
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I agree the historic section has the least restrictive. When I hear the complaints about lawn ornaments, color of homes, etc., I point them to the historic section to form their own opinion if deed restrictions are good or not. I like living in a deed restricted community.
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The historic section definitely. When I had a home there some parked cars on the lawn. Now maybe that has changed. It was 13 years ago. I am not ashamed to admit I reported them. Anyway I now live in CCD 5 and there are NO minor complaints or grievances that can be reported. The rule is speak neighbor to neighbor to try and resolve things. Not sure how many CCD's have this rule however.
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The historic section definitely. When I had a home there some parked cars on the lawn. Now maybe that has changed. It was 13 years ago. I am not ashamed to admit I reported them. Anyway I now live in CCD 5 and there are NO minor complaints or grievances that can be reported. The rule is speak neighbor to neighbor to try and resolve things. Not sure how many CCD's have this rule however.
I believe you can still report them just not anonymously.
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If I'm not mistaken that has to do with the bylaws or ordinances of the town of Lady lake or lake County.

One or the other also prohibits bonds on new homes as well.
The reason the historic side has no bond is simple. It was established before "The Villages" was established under a CDD type government. The bonds are issued by the developer to pay for infrastructure up front. Next you will ask about why new homes going up on the historic side don't have a bond. Answer - the infrastructure is already there.
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The historic section definitely. When I had a home there some parked cars on the lawn. Now maybe that has changed. It was 13 years ago. I am not ashamed to admit I reported them. Anyway I now live in CCD 5 and there are NO minor complaints or grievances that can be reported. The rule is speak neighbor to neighbor to try and resolve things. Not sure how many CCD's have this rule however.
You might want to attend the next board meeting and get that right.
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