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Old 12-15-2024, 11:06 AM
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The Daily Sun has recently published a series of major articles about how unsafe Forida's roadways are. Over 800 pedestrian deaths were determined last year to be the result of dangerous drivers.
We have to travel periodically to Tampa, and have been doing this for over five years. Yesterday was only the second time we had seen a police car on the roadway. He was parked between the roadways, as cars sped by.
We've never seen one patrolling any of the roads surrounding The Villages or in the The Villages. They're certainly needed here.
Want to stop bad drivers? Get the police on the roadways doing their job.
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Old 12-15-2024, 11:14 AM
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The Daily Sun has recently published a series of major articles about how unsafe Forida's roadways are. Over 800 pedestrian deaths were determined last year to be the result of dangerous drivers.
We have to travel periodically to Tampa, and have been doing this for over five years. Yesterday was only the second time we had seen a police car on the roadway. He was parked between the roadways, as cars sped by.
We've never seen one patrolling any of the roads surrounding The Villages or in the The Villages. They're certainly needed here.
Want to stop bad drivers? Get the police on the roadways doing their job.
Look at a local paper that does not focus on only sunshine and roses in the Villages and you will see many reports of police activity. They are already doing their jobs; bad drivers are the least of their problems.

How many additional officers would you like? At least 800 so they can be permanently assigned to the locations where the pedestrians were killed? 800 more to be assigned to the next set of roads? Triple that to 5,000 additional so they can be assigned to those locations on three shifts?

The police cannot be everywhere and we really, really do not want them to be. I don't know what the answer is to untrained, uncaring, or distracted drivers but an overabundance of police is not it.
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I’m sure the police chief would like more officers to patrol….but no one wants to pay more taxes to support his efforts.
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Old 12-15-2024, 11:53 AM
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Look at a local paper that does not focus on only sunshine and roses in the Villages and you will see many reports of police activity. Bad drivers are the least of their problems.

How many additional officers would you like? At least 800 so they can be permanently assigned to the locations where the pedestrians were killed? 800 more to be assigned to the next set of roads? Triple that to 5,000 additional so they can be assigned to those locations on three shifts?

The police cannot be everywhere and we really, really do not want them to be. I don't know what the answer is to untrained, uncaring, or distracted drivers but an overabundance of police is not it.
Neither is insufficient number of police. Have you heard that there are folks that want to defund (get rid of?) the police? Maybe escalating penalties for law breakers, like like a tracking device attached to your vehicle that records where you are what your speed is. Maybe different license levels required to buy/own/drive vehicles with different capabilities ( size, top speed, etc). I go to the doctor, grocery shopping, eat out once a week, occasionally go to Ocala. For me to buy a corvette, mustang, Porsche would be throwing money away, since I very seldom have the opportunity to drive over 55mph legally.
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Neither is insufficient number of police. Have you heard that there are folks that want to defund (get rid of?) the police? Maybe escalating penalties for law breakers, like like a tracking device attached to your vehicle that records where you are what your speed is. Maybe different license levels required to buy/own/drive vehicles with different capabilities ( size, top speed, etc). I go to the doctor, grocery shopping, eat out once a week, occasionally go to Ocala. For me to buy a corvette, mustang, Porsche would be throwing money away, since I very seldom have the opportunity to drive over 55mph legally.
There are already different classes of licenses for motorcycles and for larger vehicles.

But rather than have a different license level for top speed, why not just legislate that ALL vehicles have a governor limiting the top speed to 75mph? If there are roads where the limit is higher they are few and far between. Most roads have limits less than 75mph already so we could even consider a lower number. Let's not wait until someone else is killed, let's reduce or eliminate the problem now!
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Careful what you wish for. I would envision someday when electronic monitoring of driving maybe mandatory for vehicle insurance instead of more police for traffic. It’s already happening on a voluntary level. We monitor fleet drivers, speed, harsh braking, time over speed, etc.
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The cheapest way to catch speeders, or maybe persuade people not to speed in the first place, is through the use of speed cameras

These can, of course, be vandalized and many lawyers seem to specialize in getting people off the hook for traffic offenses, then there are those who complain that the police just use them to raise funds...

Ah, so many problems; so few solutions
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And what good would the extra $$$ do? Police would have to be everywhere to stop speeding careless drivers what ever.
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There are already different classes of licenses for motorcycles and for larger vehicles.

But rather than have a different license level for top speed, why not just legislate that ALL vehicles have a governor limiting the top speed to 75mph? If there are roads where the limit is higher they are few and far between. Most roads have limits less than 75mph already so we could even consider a lower number. Let's not wait until someone else is killed, let's reduce or eliminate the problem now!
Ever heard of golf carts exceeding 20 mph? Wonder how they do that? Governor is just begging to be tampered with. Other than that, I like the idea.
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Careful what you wish for. I would envision someday when electronic monitoring of driving maybe mandatory for vehicle insurance instead of more police for traffic. It’s already happening on a voluntary level. We monitor fleet drivers, speed, harsh braking, time over speed, etc.
Self driving cars that the AI controls cannot exceed speed limits. AI will also pull to a controlled stop and lock the doors when instructed to do so by LE.
My insurance already monitors my driving. Apparently, I'm a good boy or girl. Are youuu? 🫠
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The cheapest way to catch speeders, or maybe persuade people not to speed in the first place, is through the use of speed cameras


Ah, so many problems; so few solutions
The cheapest and easiest way, is to require electronic speed and acceleration controls in vehicles.

Mainline automobile manufactures produce cars with top end speeds that exceed 150 MPH (I have one). Why are manufacturers allowed to do it?

It's like the old story about having parking lots at bars. You're not supposed to drink and drive, but by law in most states, "bars" are required to have parking spaces.

Drones are just the tip of the iceberg, for things that are likely to happen in the near future. How long do you think it will be, before the technology to listen to everyone's cell phone conversations is available on Amazon, for $29.95?

Technology is far out-pacing our ability and will to regulate.
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The country needs monitoring of purchases we make. One bottle of whiskey every 6 months to control alcoholism and drunk driving. To further prevent drunk driving, only one drink at a bar or even ban bars. Need to monitor the foods people purchase, no high fat or high calorie foods to control obesity and diabetes. There should be limits on how big of an automobile a person can buy. A Smart car for singles and couples. A Fiat 500 size car for a family of 4. No car larger than for a family of 4, 2 children are sufficient. No family should exceed 2 children, mandatory sterilization after the 2nd child. No car should be manufactured with an engine larger than 1 liter, gotta save the environment and reduce the need for fossil fuels. Totally prohibit the manufacture of large luxury cars. You don't need A/C, electric windows or door locks. Homes should be based on the number of inhabitants, 1 bed room for a single person and a couple. House doesn't need to be any larger than 800 square feet in this category. Private swimming pools banned, there are public pools you can use. Timers on showers, 3 minutes is sufficient to bathe, save water and electricity/gas to heat the water. Getting back to police, speed bumps on roadways to slow traffic. Stop lights every 2 miles on the toll roads and interstate highways to slow traffic. Need to re-take the driver's license every 2 years including a driving test. Every year for people over 50 years old. Need to provide justification for a driver's license. If you live near a bus stop, you don't need a car. Actually, we could just ban private ownership of automobiles. Only allow cars for taxi service. We don't need airplanes, railroads can transport people more efficiently. Electric service should be turned off at 10:00 pm, everyone should be off the streets and in bed at that time. Would really cut back on the amount of electricity needed. I could keep on going but I'm getting tired, 10:00 pm is approaching.
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IMO over 70% are bad drivers in too big hurry and impatient. They are overwhelmed. Now let talk about druggies, drunks, and criminals.
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The country needs monitoring of purchases we make. One bottle of whiskey every 6 months to control alcoholism and drunk driving. To further prevent drunk driving, only one drink at a bar or even ban bars. Need to monitor the foods people purchase, no high fat or high calorie foods to control obesity and diabetes. There should be limits on how big of an automobile a person can buy. A Smart car for singles and couples. A Fiat 500 size car for a family of 4. No car larger than for a family of 4, 2 children are sufficient. No family should exceed 2 children, mandatory sterilization after the 2nd child. No car should be manufactured with an engine larger than 1 liter, gotta save the environment and reduce the need for fossil fuels. Totally prohibit the manufacture of large luxury cars. You don't need A/C, electric windows or door locks. Homes should be based on the number of inhabitants, 1 bed room for a single person and a couple. House doesn't need to be any larger than 800 square feet in this category. Private swimming pools banned, there are public pools you can use. Timers on showers, 3 minutes is sufficient to bathe, save water and electricity/gas to heat the water. Getting back to police, speed bumps on roadways to slow traffic. Stop lights every 2 miles on the toll roads and interstate highways to slow traffic. Need to re-take the driver's license every 2 years including a driving test. Every year for people over 50 years old. Need to provide justification for a driver's license. If you live near a bus stop, you don't need a car. Actually, we could just ban private ownership of automobiles. Only allow cars for taxi service. We don't need airplanes, railroads can transport people more efficiently. Electric service should be turned off at 10:00 pm, everyone should be off the streets and in bed at that time. Would really cut back on the amount of electricity needed. I could keep on going but I'm getting tired, 10:00 pm is approaching.
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That’s what get in free country, have right to drink yourself to death, eat yourself to death, and drug yourself to death.

Too many people to take drivers test every two years, besides it won’t do no good anyway.
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