[The Villager II]

I would like to remind the cigar smokers that when you smoke them, there stench has a way of drifting for even hundreds of feet. I had a meal ruined at the lighthouse recently as did several other tables on the deck. A cigarette is bad, but a cigar is a nasty disgusting instrument for those of us that care about our lungs. If you don't care at all about the feelings of others, then I guess there is nothing anyone can say to you, but just in case you don't realize how disgusting cigar smoke is to others, I would say please smoke in private where the rest of us can enjoy the out door dining.

[red tail]

Originally Posted by The Villager II

I would like to remind the cigar smokers that when you smoke them, there stench has a way of drifting for even hundreds of feet. I had a meal ruined at the lighthouse recently as did several other tables on the deck. A cigarette is bad, but a cigar is a nasty disgusting instrument for those of us that care about our lungs. If you don't care at all about the feelings of others, then I guess there is nothing anyone can say to you, but just in case you don't realize how disgusting cigar smoke is to others, I would say please smoke in private where the rest of us can enjoy the out door dining.

i say to each his own. i personally love the smell of cigar smoke.

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by The Villager II

I would like to remind the cigar smokers that when you smoke them, there stench has a way of drifting for even hundreds of feet. I had a meal ruined at the lighthouse recently as did several other tables on the deck. A cigarette is bad, but a cigar is a nasty disgusting instrument for those of us that care about our lungs. If you don't care at all about the feelings of others, then I guess there is nothing anyone can say to you, but just in case you don't realize how disgusting cigar smoke is to others, I would say please smoke in private where the rest of us can enjoy the out door dining.

You can add pipes to that also.

[Jim Straz]

I would have said something to the manager on the way out.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...Tobacco/cigars

[JenAjd]

I know this is a "free country" and that "to each his own" is something to consider. However that being said, in a community of retired folks there are perhaps many who have breathing issues (asthma, copd etc) I too find it offensive to be in a public gathering and have to experience that type of situation as you describe here. It's been recorded that 2nd hand smoke is an issue for cancer. I guess we'll always have people on both sides of this issue but truly it's not just a matter of "smell" but of good health for ALL. The reason that so many states in the U.S. have outlawed smoking in offices, restaurants and other public venues.
JMHO!!

[Harry Gilbert]

Curiosity got the better of me so I'll ask.

Where was the offensive cigar smoker? The original post stated cigar smoke carries 100's of feet so that would seem that the offending party was not that close by. There are homes very close to the restaurant and if the cigar smoker was sitting in his back yard enjoying a cigar what was he/she doing wrong? or walking along the lake away from diners? doesn't sound like they were sitting on the deck trying to impose their smoke on anyone

[memason]

Recently, I've noticed folks using the new electronic cigarettes or e-cigs, as they're called. It looks like they are smoking, but the e-cig produces a water vapor that evaporates in the air and they have no smell.

Anyone had experience with these e-cigs ???

[The Villager II]

Originally Posted by Harry Gilbert

Curiosity got the better of me so I'll ask.

Where was the offensive cigar smoker? The original post stated cigar smoke carries 100's of feet so that would seem that the offending party was not that close by. There are homes very close to the restaurant and if the cigar smoker was sitting in his back yard enjoying a cigar what was he/she doing wrong? or walking along the lake away from diners? doesn't sound like they were sitting on the deck trying to impose their smoke on anyone

On the deck at the Light house, the breeze was from south to north and he was in the southern most side of the deck. So everyone up the line was getting it. The crazy thing is that he lit it up after he was done eating and just sat there smoking for about 15 minutes. He sat back crossed his legs and puffed away gagging about 15 to 20 patrons. He was a big fellow and that may be why no one said anything directly to him. Several comments were made loud enough for our table to hear it, but no reaction from the smoker. Who knows, STUPID OR INCONSIDERATE. I would like to believe that he just did not know he was being so offensive to others. Maybe a please could you smoke somewhere else might have got a quick, I'm Sorry and he would leave or the way things are today, it might have got you put in the hospital.

[red tail]

Originally Posted by The Villager II

On the deck at the Light house, the breeze was from south to north and he was in the southern most side of the deck. So everyone up the line was getting it. The crazy thing is that he lit it up after he was done eating and just sat there smoking for about 15 minutes. He sat back crossed his legs and puffed away gagging about 15 to 20 patrons. He was a big fellow and that may be why no one said anything directly to him. Several comments were made loud enough for our table to hear it, but no reaction from the smoker. Who knows, STUPID OR INCONSIDERATE. I would like to believe that he just did not know he was being so offensive to others. Maybe a please could you smoke somewhere else might have got a quick, I'm Sorry and he would leave or the way things are today, it might have got you put in the hospital.

is the deck a non smoking area? if so then he should have been chastised, if not then whats the beef ? you should go to non smoking areas.

[The Villager II]

Originally Posted by red tail

is the deck a non smoking area? if so then he should have been chastised, if not then whats the beef ? you should go to non smoking areas.

OK

[Harry Gilbert]

Originally Posted by The Villager II

On the deck at the Light house, the breeze was from south to north and he was in the southern most side of the deck. So everyone up the line was getting it. The crazy thing is that he lit it up after he was done eating and just sat there smoking for about 15 minutes. He sat back crossed his legs and puffed away gagging about 15 to 20 patrons. He was a big fellow and that may be why no one said anything directly to him. Several comments were made loud enough for our table to hear it, but no reaction from the smoker. Who knows, STUPID OR INCONSIDERATE. I would like to believe that he just did not know he was being so offensive to others. Maybe a please could you smoke somewhere else might have got a quick, I'm Sorry and he would leave or the way things are today, it might have got you put in the hospital.

Thanks for the clarification.
In this case yes he was being inconsiderate and giving us smokers a bad name I smoke but when in public wait till I'm in a area that won't bother anyone.

[The Villager II]

Originally Posted by red tail

is the deck a non smoking area? if so then he should have been chastised, if not then whats the beef ? you should go to non smoking areas.

If you smoke, I have reminded you how offensive it is to most people; however, If you do not smoke, then disregard this reminder.

[BigLew]

I can't help but to find it interesting how people, who won't even stand up for their rights, will mount such vicious attacks on smokers....just saying....
did anyone offer the guy a drink and ask him if he would mind moving to the downwind side? or did they just make loud comments and not address the problem directly?

[The Villager II]

Originally Posted by Harry Gilbert

Thanks for the clarification.
In this case yes he was being inconsiderate and giving us smokers a bad name I smoke but when in public wait till I'm in a area that won't bother anyone.

And that is all I was saying. I cuss like a sailer on furlow, but when around other people and especially children, I clean it up. When I did smoke, I would ask others around me if they minded. Ya don't even have that anymore. General lack of courteously now days. Like another person said, if ya don't like it leave, which I would have done if I would have seen the cigar before I started eating my meal. When I spoke to management about it, I was told that they did not like it either, but Florida Law allows smoking outside even in restaurants.

[red tail]

Originally Posted by The Villager II

If you smoke, I have reminded you how offensive it is to most people; however, If you do not smoke, then disregard this reminder.

i dont smoke but i like the aroma of cigars.