[bkcunningham1]

Originally Posted by The Villager II

I would like to remind the cigar smokers that when you smoke them, there stench has a way of drifting for even hundreds of feet. I had a meal ruined at the lighthouse recently as did several other tables on the deck. A cigarette is bad, but a cigar is a nasty disgusting instrument for those of us that care about our lungs. If you don't care at all about the feelings of others, then I guess there is nothing anyone can say to you, but just in case you don't realize how disgusting cigar smoke is to others, I would say please smoke in private where the rest of us can enjoy the out door dining.

I don't think you can smoke at the Lighthouse. Where was the cigar smoke coming from?

[Skybo]

Originally Posted by memason

The law does not allow smoking INSIDE. Business can do whatever they want outside, on their own property. If they wanted to make the outside eating area non-smoking, it's within their rights to do so.

Here is what Villager II wrote about what the manager said:

Originally Posted by The Villager II

When I spoke to management about it, I was told that they did not like it either, but Florida Law allows smoking outside even in restaurants.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by uujudy

Fifty feet would outlaw smoking in all of LSL and Spanish Springs except the parking lots.

This sounds like a great idea! In many regions of the USA smoking is not allowed in outdoor venues such as stadiums, parks and beaches because environmental tobacco smoke (second hand smoke) is both toxic to all and annoying to most people. It is also refreshing to not have to wade through cigarette butts lying about on sidewalks and in the grass and sand as we all used to have to do.

Too, cannot a restaurant initiate and maintain its own outdoor smoking policy? It seems to me that if a restaurant provided nonsmoking outdoor areas its business would increase as word got around.

[uujudy]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

This sounds like a great idea! In many regions of the USA smoking is not allowed in outdoor venues such as stadiums, parks and beaches because environmental tobacco smoke (second hand smoke) is both toxic to all and annoying to most people. It is also refreshing to not have to wade through cigarette butts lying about on sidewalks and in the grass and sand as we all used to have to do.

Too, cannot a restaurant initiate and maintain its own outdoor smoking policy? It seems to me that if a restaurant provided nonsmoking outdoor areas its business would increase as word got around.

My mistake. I didn't post that because I thought it was a good idea; I posted it because I'm sick to death of more and more laws that take all the responsibility and choices away from people, restaurants, etc...
Just my 2 cents

[Chief X]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I and most people think cigars are a dirty horrible stench and their users are totally inconsiderate. Especially when it is hot and very humid outside, the stench smoke STAYS. It is absolutely nauseating, like sitting beside a toilet.

I think most normal people would like to enjoy a nice place like the Litehouse without sitting near a truck-stop toilet stink.

I also notice that lots of cigar users are bald, with polished 100% shaven skulls. They have no idea what it is to be a woman who just got out of the shower and spent 20 minutes fixing her CLEAN hair.....and husbands like the smell of their wives clean hair......and some mannerless CLOD stinks up the table area with a cigar and our hair absorbs that stink in 5 minutes or less.

We put our head on the pillow later and the stink rolls out......GAG.

Interesting statements (of fact?). I'm often amused by comments such as this where someone assumes that just because they don't like something, "most" people agree with them.

Regardless, I've never smoked and also feel that it's a disgusting habit and a crutch for weakness, however... I am smart enough to address the issue when I'm put in a situation that I don't enjoy, ie: ask to move to a different location, ask the smoker to cool it, distract the smoker by having a hot blonde walk by, so he'll leave etc.

Like many say on here -- just my opinion.

Chief X

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Chief X

Interesting statements (of fact?). I'm often amused by comments such as this where someone assumes that just because they don't like something, "most" people agree with them.

Regardless, I've never smoked and also feel that it's a disgusting habit and a crutch for weakness, however... I am smart enough to address the issue when I'm put in a situation that I don't enjoy, ie: ask to move to a different location, ask the smoker to cool it, distract the smoker by having a hot blonde walk by, so he'll leave etc.

Like many say on here -- just my opinion.

Chief X

And it's "just my opinion" from what I have seen, that "most people" do not like stinky people beside them, especially when "most people" are eating or going out and paying money to have a drink with friends (who do not stink) in a beautiful place.

Deodorant and anti-perspirant commercials have been telling us on t.v. for 50 years that stinking around others is offensive and unacceptable socially. Cigar smoking is regarded the same way by "most people".........even chain cigarette smokers.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I and most people think cigars are a dirty horrible stench and their users are totally inconsiderate. Especially when it is hot and very humid outside, the stench smoke STAYS. It is absolutely nauseating, like sitting beside a toilet.

I think most normal people would like to enjoy a nice place like the Litehouse without sitting near a truck-stop toilet stink.

I also notice that lots of cigar users are bald, with polished 100% shaven skulls. They have no idea what it is to be a woman who just got out of the shower and spent 20 minutes fixing her CLEAN hair.....and husbands like the smell of their wives clean hair......and some mannerless CLOD stinks up the table area with a cigar and our hair absorbs that stink in 5 minutes or less.

We put our head on the pillow later and the stink rolls out......GAG.

WOW !!! This is really nasty & rude. Like many others, just my opinion !

[Jim Straz]

I think there's the possibility, however remote, that if 50 people on this forum put their arms out a window on a rainy day only about 38 of them would agree their arms even got wet. Just a thought!

[uujudy]

Originally Posted by Jim Straz

I think there's the possibility, however remote, that if 50 people on this forum put their arms out a window on a rainy day only about 38 of them would agree their arms even got wet. Just a thought!

Hahaha! True!

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

And it's "just my opinion" from what I have seen, that "most people" do not like stinky people beside them, especially when "most people" are eating or going out and paying money to have a drink with friends (who do not stink) in a beautiful place.

Deodorant and anti-perspirant commercials have been telling us on t.v. for 50 years that stinking around others is offensive and unacceptable socially. Cigar smoking is regarded the same way by "most people".........even chain cigarette smokers.

ya know what, ilovetv, if i had a choice i would rather sit next to someone with an aromatic cigar instead of someone drenched in nauseating cologne/perfume/deodorant! to me, they are the stinky people! outside, at least, i can get away from them - in church, the movie theatre or entertainment venue or even the grocery store it is sometimes difficult to get far enough away from the offender. just my opinion, though!

[Chi-Town]

I was actually surprised that there was any no smoking law in Florida. A lot of states have a law banning outdoor smoking where food is served. This was usually a migration from the indoor law. Hopefully, Florida will choose to do so also. Or it can be done on a county by county basis.

I used to smoke, but even then I didn't like the smell of smoke when I ate. So much of what you taste is what you smell. So in the meantime maybe smokers can hold off for a few minutes if food is served next to you.

As far as cigars go the smell is determined by the quality of the tobacco. All I can say is that there are a lot of cheap cigars around. Cigar smokers, go to Garvinos and lay out a few bucks. You'll be doing a community service.

[Uptown Girl]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

if i had a choice i would rather sit next to someone with an aromatic cigar instead of someone drenched in nauseating cologne/perfume/deodorant! to me, they are the stinky people! outside, at least, i can get away from them - in church, the movie theatre or entertainment venue or even the grocery store it is sometimes difficult to get far enough away from the offender. just my opinion, though!

I'm with you on THAT one! BIG TIME. How about when two or more perfumed people are traveling together and EACH is drenched in something? ARRGH!

[Indydealmaker]

Just saw a blurb online that reported:

"A study that was made in Cuba and looked into the lives of 54 out of the more than 100 centenarians who live in Villa Clara province, showed that Cigars and sex 'boost Cuba lives. Cuba's high number of centenarians says their longevity is down to laying off alcohol, but indulging in cigars and sex."

[RichieLion]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

Just saw a blurb online that reported:

"A study that was made in Cuba and looked into the lives of 54 out of the more than 100 centenarians who live in Villa Clara province, showed that Cigars and sex 'boost Cuba lives. Cuba's high number of centenarians says their longevity is down to laying off alcohol, but indulging in cigars and sex."

It might just be the Cuban women. I would suggest all you cigar smokers emigrate to Cuba. Just to be sure (or at least Miami)

[The Villager II]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

Just saw a blurb online that reported:

"A study that was made in Cuba and looked into the lives of 54 out of the more than 100 centenarians who live in Villa Clara province, showed that Cigars and sex 'boost Cuba lives. Cuba's high number of centenarians says their longevity is down to laying off alcohol, but indulging in cigars and sex."

http://www.google.com/search?q=lungs...w=1280&bih=843

Is this the article?