When or will government ever get out of our business. I would never recommend or support Abortion, BUT I find it appalling when people say GOD tells them to stop the practice at all cost. That attitude is very close to insanity. I see little difference between Radical Islam and Fanatical Christians. Sorry, but just watched a report on the bill being considered in Virginia. When you step between a woman and her doctor, you have crossed the line and need to be locked away.

Totally agree!

I agree too, but isn't that what insurance companies have been doing for years?

I completely agree with you. It is another attempt to control women. I call it the Taliban.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

When or will government ever get out of our business. I would never recommend or support Abortion, BUT I find it appalling when people say GOD tells them to stop the practice at all cost. That attitude is very close to insanity. I see little difference between Radical Islam and Fanatical Christians. Sorry, but just watched a report on the bill being considered in Virginia. When you step between a woman and her doctor, you have crossed the line and need to be locked away.

My dad was a physician and always said "If men had babies, all families would have only one child" and "If men had babies, abortion would be a constitutional amendment."

Don't forget that man who killed a medical doctor in his church in front of witnesses. He tried to get off the 1st degree murder charge by saying he did it for all the unborn babies the doctor would kill in the future. Of course, that defense did not work and he is put away in prison forever.

I would go so far as to say there are some uber-conservatives on this forum who said that defense was correct and the shooter should have gone free.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Don't forget that man who killed a medical doctor in his church in front of witnesses. He tried to get off the 1st degree murder charge by saying he did it for all the unborn babies the doctor would kill in the future. Of course, that defense did not work and he is put away in prison forever.

I would go so far as to say there are some uber-conservatives on this forum who said that defense was correct and the shooter should have gone free.

I feel like someone should answer this because it is quite a broad statement. I do not think anybody here or anywhere would want a murderer go free. Please, I wonder if someone said something like "when that movie came out about assassinating President Bush, some ultra liberals here endorsed it?" Would that be a fair statement?

Originally Posted by The Villager II

When or will government ever get out of our business. I would never recommend or support Abortion, BUT I find it appalling when people say GOD tells them to stop the practice at all cost. That attitude is very close to insanity. I see little difference between Radical Islam and Fanatical Christians. Sorry, but just watched a report on the bill being considered in Virginia. When you step between a woman and her doctor, you have crossed the line and need to be locked away.

I agree! This is between a woman, her husband, her doctor and her God. No place for the government here.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

When or will government ever get out of our business. I would never recommend or support Abortion, BUT I find it appalling when people say GOD tells them to stop the practice at all cost. That attitude is very close to insanity. I see little difference between Radical Islam and Fanatical Christians. Sorry, but just watched a report on the bill being considered in Virginia. When you step between a woman and her doctor, you have crossed the line and need to be locked away.

Would you please post a link to the report on the bill being considered in Virginia to halt abortion?

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

I feel like someone should answer this because it is quite a broad statement. I do not think anybody here or anywhere would want a murderer go free. Please, I wonder if someone said something like "when that movie came out about assassinating President Bush, some ultra liberals here endorsed it?" Would that be a fair statement?

Never fails....you always go for the tit for tat route. Did someone assassinate GW Bush? Cause someone sure did assassinate George Tiller.

Originally Posted by cologal

Never fails....you always go for the tit for tat route. Did someone assassinate GW Bush? Cause someone sure did assassinate George Tiller.

Villagegolfer is addressing the straw man agrument made by buggyone, cologal. Buggyone sets up points and a discussion by making distorted, exaggerated and misrepresenting positions of posters on TOTV: "I would go so far as to say there are some uber-conservatives on this forum who said that defense was correct and the shooter should have gone free."

Here's a link to the story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...heJ_story.html

It's interesting how abortion promoters use the back alley argument to say legal abortion is needed to protect the woman's safety.....and yet, when Virginians put in place stricter safety standards in clinics and regulate them more for sanitation and patient safety (as democrats always want more regulation), they STEREOTYPE and VILIFY the law's proponents, calling them ALL "The Taliban", "worse than muslim terrorists", etc.

You have NO credibility when you call yourself "liberal" and "tolerant" and "open-minded", and at the same time you stereotype and slander ALL the people of Virginia who voted for the legislators that promulgated and passed this law.

Did it occur to you guys that maybe this is what the people of VIRGINIA want??? And if it is not, then they will VOTE OUT the people who passed this!!!! Unless you're a resident of VA, it's none of your dang business!!

"Draft Of Virginia Abortion Clinic Regulations

By: Metro News

A draft of emergency regulations that could force the closure of most of Virginia's abortion clinics are going public today.

The proposed rules follow a Republican-backed bill that narrowly passed the General Assembly this year. The legislation compels the State Board of Health to regulate abortion clinics like hospitals, meaning many clinics would be unable to afford the costs of retrofitting their facilities properly and could close. Health Board members will vote on the draft regulations at their meeting September 15th.

Story Posted: Fri Aug 26 06:38:33 CDT 2011
Created: Fri Aug 26 06:39:08 CDT 2011"
http://newsradio1420.com/newsradio/n...?storyID=25876

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

Villagegolfer is addressing the straw man agrument made by buggyone, cologal. Buggyone sets up points and a discussion by making distorted, exaggerated and misrepresenting positions of posters on TOTV: "I would go so far as to say there are some uber-conservatives on this forum who said that defense was correct and the shooter should have gone free."

Thank you bk. You said it better then I could.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

Villagegolfer is addressing the straw man agrument made by buggyone, cologal. Buggyone sets up points and a discussion by making distorted, exaggerated and misrepresenting positions of posters on TOTV: "I would go so far as to say there are some uber-conservatives on this forum who said that defense was correct and the shooter should have gone free."

It's a favorite tactic used by disciples of marxist community organizers like Obama and Steve Ayers, from their messiah, Saul Alinsky:

"5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage." --from "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm