Number of poor hit record 46 million in 2010, while median incomes fell.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78C3YV20110913

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...come-fell.html

22 percent of American children lived in poverty last year

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...142535015.html


This can't be inspiring news for all who think the President a sure thing for re-election in 2012. I'm thinking I should have accepted an offered bet last night as to that election's results.

This is why the Democrat demonization of the opposition is in full swing. Will people care about the rantings of the radical partisans, or on their own lot in life and their vision of their own future?

You have to ask yourself if those poor people will think that the Republican/Tea Party caniddates will treat them in a better way than the way they will be treated by Democrats.

These people in dire straits are not going to blaming who or what got them there but will be wanting assistance in getting back on their feet and will be needing financial help. The Republicans/Tea Party candidates have made it clear they do not want to give financial assistance.

Therefore, the higher number of poor families there are, the more families will vote Democrat. You can bet the Democrat "machines" will be out in force to get all of these families to the polls.

The bet was not made without a good amount of thinking, I am sure.

Originally Posted by buggyone

You have to ask yourself if those poor people will think that the Republican/Tea Party caniddates will treat them in a better way than the way they will be treated by Democrats.

These people in dire straits are not going to blaming who or what got them there but will be wanting assistance in getting back on their feet and will be needing financial help. The Republicans/Tea Party candidates have made it clear they do not want to give financial assistance.

Therefore, the higher number of poor families there are, the more families will vote Democrat. You can bet the Democrat "machines" will be out in force to get all of these families to the polls.

The bet was not made without a good amount of thinking, I am sure.

So you're of the opinion that most people want the hand out and vote for that, and not vote for the person who has the best shot at creating the opportunity for them to work and create their own future.

Pretty cynical.

As I said, they will not be voting for the candidates who are in a party who is not compasionate - and the Tea Party is anything but compassionate. Have one of the Tea Party candidates or Tea Party endorsed candidates on the ticket - and the Republicans lose again.

No added in quips from Village Golfer? What gives?

This is a better way of viewing this situation. Proctor and Gamble is retooling their products because the "middle class" is quickly disappearing. I haven't met vey many "middle class" voters who would be content with accepting a handout, even a temporary handout. I had a period of unemployment in 1989 and refused both federal and state assistance and lived on my savings until I found employment six months later. I doubt I am alone in this thinking and beleieve there are thousands of stories like mine.

Britian welfare state is instructive and its civic discourse prescience.

has always been a hand up, not a hand out. We need policies in DC. that stimulates the economy so people can go to work and feel good about themselves and elevate the USA where it belongs, the leader of the free world.
To do these lofty things we need to vote for people of high standards and ideals. Vote for the candidates that support The Tea Party, America's Party.

Originally Posted by buggyone

As I said, they will not be voting for the candidates who are in a party who is not compasionate - and the Tea Party is anything but compassionate. Have one of the Tea Party candidates or Tea Party endorsed candidates on the ticket - and the Republicans lose again.

No added in quips from Village Golfer? What gives?

Tea Party, tea party, tea party, tea party..............you keep saying it like it's a dirty word; but that's only to you rabid lefties. It ain't gonna fly.

It's the Republican Party you have to run against and if they give some thought to the Tea Party's charter, they'll be quite formidable.

All those people falling below poverty levels, all the jobs lost, median incomes down. OH YEAH!!; FEEL THE COMPASSION.

Can you honestly imagine a struggling, poor family voting for Michelle Bachmann, Ron Paul, Ricky Perry, or Sarah Palin? It would never happen. The Democrats have these votes locked in - and the Democrats have the means to get these people to the voting booths with caravans of cars and thousands of union people (even the Teamsters) that will be given a paid day off to do the driving.

Drive!

Originally Posted by buggyone

Can you honestly imagine a struggling, poor family voting for Michelle Bachmann, Ron Paul, Ricky Perry, or Sarah Palin? It would never happen. The Democrats have these votes locked in - and the Democrats have the means to get these people to the voting booths with caravans of cars and thousands of union people (even the Teamsters) that will be given a paid day off to do the driving.

Drive!

They also can bring out the Black Panthers as they have done in the past to intimidate voters !!!!!!

But the constant combining of the Tea Party with a slash Republican Party amazes me. The Democrat party has always prided itself in welcoming diverse groups to their table....we might call them the Union/Democrat Party...or to the point that you continually make..we could call them the Black/Democratic party.....all is just as stupid as your and others continuing of using that little slash as if it were all one big party.

I also, in reading various comments concerning the debate last night and the pretty much predictable calls about the entire Republican party being non sympathatic and such......if you wish we could haul out the quotes from the 2008 Democratic primary between Clinton and Obama....some nice juicy ones there....but they would be dismissed.

Some day, you will recognize issues and not personalities and personal digs...someday you will discuss the issues that were talked about..but that will require you to grow up and most importantly shut up and listen a bit.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Can you honestly imagine a struggling, poor family voting for Michelle Bachmann, Ron Paul, Ricky Perry, or Sarah Palin? It would never happen. The Democrats have these votes locked in - and the Democrats have the means to get these people to the voting booths with caravans of cars and thousands of union people (even the Teamsters) that will be given a paid day off to do the driving.

Drive!

I think you just have lovely dreams where what you say is going to happen, and then they'll be rainbows.

I think that's all you have, and all I have to do is read the news to know.

Poverty, like most human conditions, finds its root in changing demographics. The two most important factors in flux are: (1) Single-parent families and (2) dropping out of the education process. The situation is worse the blacks than for the Hispanic or white families.

The United States today has the highest rate of single-parent families in the Developed world – 34% as of 1998 and the situation has continued to worsen, By contrast, in 1970 the percentage of single parent families was only 13%.

http://family.jrank.org/pages/1574/S...ic-Trends.html

The situation, already bad, gets much worse when you look at education. By 2006, 72% of black high school dropouts were unemployed. The comparable figures are 34% for whites and 19% for Hispanics.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...N_GRAPHIC.html

The only effective way to deal with this problem is to incentivize marrying before having children and completing a high school at a minimum. Concurrent with this we need to discourage having children when the parent, particularly the mother, is not in a position to care for them without government assistance.

I request that this thread avoid becoming another abortion thread and thereby add a great deal of heat and very little light.

BBQMan is 100% right when he said "The only effective way to deal with this problem is to incentivize marrying before having children and completing a high school at a minimum. Concurrent with this we need to discourage having children when the parent, particularly the mother, is not in a position to care for them without government assistance."

Look at all the celebrities who seem to take pride in the children they are having (or fathering) without being married. The celebrities are both sports figures and movie stars. Kids hold these celebrities in high regard.

Even the teen-age daughter of the former governor of Alaska got pregnant when she was living at home. If the unmarried teen aged daughter of a strict families values person like Sarah Palin gets pregnant, it shows how hard it is to keep the kids from doing it.

Personally, I do not know the answer, but BBQMan is right in his thinking. We know the problem - but not the answer.

ritchie,ritchie,ritchie...Every time you open your mouth you bash someone with that almighty keystroke..

the truth is that if a moderate republican gets nominated then you will win..If the tea party candidates are nominated you will lose..big time...AGAIN..

Maybe you ought to actually go to a tea party meeting and talk with some of the folks there first hand before you run the flag up and wear the banner so proudly...I have and so have many other moderate democrats...

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Number of poor hit record 46 million in 2010, while median incomes fell.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78C3YV20110913

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...come-fell.html

22 percent of American children lived in poverty last year

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...142535015.html


This can't be inspiring news for all who think the President a sure thing for re-election in 2012. I'm thinking I should have accepted an offered bet last night as to that election's results.

This is why the Democrat demonization of the opposition is in full swing. Will people care about the rantings of the radical partisans, or on their own lot in life and their vision of their own future?

How many years in a row has the poverty level risen? And how many years has Obama been in office? Do the math.


http://mojoe.msnbc.msn.com/_news/201...sday-sept-14th

Originally Posted by hrp01

ritchie,ritchie,ritchie...Every time you open your mouth you bash someone with that almighty keystroke..

the truth is that if a moderate republican gets nominated then you will win..If the tea party candidates are nominated you will lose..big time...AGAIN..

Maybe you ought to actually go to a tea party meeting and talk with some of the folks there first hand before you run the flag up and wear the banner so proudly...I have and so have many other moderate democrats...

I'm just rejecting anything you say from now on. You just too full of it. I can't believe a single thing you say. Sorry.