Two things the dems have to do to their party in for 2012 1 Dont let Obama seek reelection 2 Repeal Obama care 3 Listen to the people for a change and uphold the constitution no matter what . I know I said two but they dont have the balls to do the first.

Originally Posted by DDoug

Two things the dems have to do to their party in for 2012 1 Dont let Obama seek reelection 2 Repeal Obama care 3 Listen to the people for a change and uphold the constitution no matter what . I know I said two but they dont have the balls to do the first.

1) I would like to see Hilary run...she was thrown under the bus by the Dems. I stopped believing what Obama said when he said he did not know that the minister he had for 20 years felt the way he did about things. I can't believe anyone bought that explanation.
2) The health care plan is not that bad. We are paying every time we go to the doctor or the hospital for those folks who won't buy health insurance. They bill us at extremely high rates because they have to recover what they have lost by having to treat the uninsured and illegals. So, I see this health care plan as a way to have everyone participate in funding medical care. Not just us paying for everyone else.
3) What the people want is all the benefits and none of the taxation that supports it. That's what they really want. They don't think about what those taxes pay for. What people should they listen to? The ones who want change that might cost everyone a little more? The ones who want to lower taxes but haven't a clue as to what they will lose? The corporations who pay little if any tax? Those rich folks who create jobs but if you tax them they won't create any more jobs? That is ridiculous thinking. You think taxing them a bit more would actually effect them in any meaningful way. Restore the tax rate before GB and DC lowered them for their buddies.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

1) I would like to see Hilary run...she was thrown under the bus by the Dems. I stopped believing what Obama said when he said he did not know that the minister he had for 20 years felt the way he did about things. I can't believe anyone bought that explanation.
2) The health care plan is not that bad. We are paying every time we go to the doctor or the hospital for those folks who won't buy health insurance. They bill us at extremely high rates because they have to recover what they have lost by having to treat the uninsured and illegals. So, I see this health care plan as a way to have everyone participate in funding medical care. Not just us paying for everyone else.
3) What the people want is all the benefits and none of the taxation that supports it. That's what they really want. They don't think about what those taxes pay for. What people should they listen to? The ones who want change that might cost everyone a little more? The ones who want to lower taxes but haven't a clue as to what they will lose? The corporations who pay little if any tax? Those rich folks who create jobs but if you tax them they won't create any more jobs? That is ridiculous thinking. You think taxing them a bit more would actually effect them in any meaningful way. Restore the tax rate before GB and DC lowered them for their buddies.

Now this sounds like a solid plan.

I compare the government with obesity.
The more you give them the fatter they get.

The government needs less caloric intake. Period. A little more work would help, too.

Originally Posted by DDoug

Two things the dems have to do to their party in for 2012 1 Dont let Obama seek reelection 2 Repeal Obama care 3 Listen to the people for a change and uphold the constitution no matter what . I know I said two but they dont have the balls to do the first.

It happened to Franklin Pierce a few years back.

What Dems need to do:

Shed ObamaCare it is ill conceived

Shed idealogues like Obama, Schummer, Pelosi, Reid, Frank Waters

Shed the notion that wealth and the wealthy are evil and that taxing them is the solution to our economic problems Note: Obama recent plan to fund his job plan by taxing the wealthy had already been introduced in 1965. It became the Alternative Minimum Tax that damaged many middle class citizens

Shed the notion that unions add to the bottom line. if that was the case we should have the best schools and the brightest students in the world but we don't even come close

Bottom line Dems need to move back to the center

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Originally Posted by rubicon

What Dems need to do:

Shed ObamaCare it is ill conceived

Shed idealogues like Obama, Schummer, Pelosi, Reid, Frank Waters

Shed the notion that wealth and the wealthy are evil and that taxing them is the solution to our economic problems Note: Obama recent plan to fund his job plan by taxing the wealthy had already been introduced in 1965. It became the Alternative Minimum Tax that damaged many middle class citizens

Shed the notion that unions add to the bottom line. if that was the case we should have the best schools and the brightest students in the world but we don't even come close

Bottom line Dems need to move back to the center

Good post.