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Old 10-14-2011, 08:57 PM
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Old 10-15-2011, 08:15 AM
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Why are you happy that the Long Term Care has been taken out of the health plan?

Do you have Long Term Care insurance for you and your wife? Actually is a good thing to have.
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Old 10-15-2011, 08:26 AM
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I view ObamaCare as a hindrance to business. Whether it is fair or not, Obamacare is frightening business owners. People need jobs and businesses are skeptical.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:17 AM
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it was destined to unravel and crash before it was passed. As far as Obama is concerned, he got what he wanted a bill passed with some intention in the content to be good for everybody. Remember when it was flailing around in congress, he said he did not care what it wound up being finally....just get something passed. And they did. And he can claim that.

But just like all the other MAJOR issues, whether anything really comes to reality or expectation simply does not bother Obama. Politicians have the attention span of a gnat. And an intention span even smaller.
The proof is in the end results (not ocurring.....consistently).

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Old 10-15-2011, 11:46 AM
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it was destined to unravel and crash before it was passed. As far as Obama is concerned, he got what he wanted a bill passed with some intention in the content to be good for everybody. Remember when it was flailing around in congress, he said he did not care what it wound up being finally....just get something passed. And they did. And he can claim that.

But just like all the other MAJOR issues, whether anything really comes to reality or expectation simply does not bother Obama. Politicians have the attention span of a gnat. And an intention span even smaller.The proof is in the end results (not ocurring.....consistently).

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Old 10-15-2011, 12:57 PM
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I view ObamaCare as a hindrance to business. Whether it is fair or not, Obamacare is frightening business owners. People need jobs and businesses are skeptical.
If it wasn't, there wouldn't have been something like 1700 companies exempted from Obamacare.
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:07 PM
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Why are you happy that the Long Term Care has been taken out of the health plan?

Do you have Long Term Care insurance for you and your wife? Actually is a good thing to have.
Oh good grief. Long-term care insurance is some of the most expensive out there, and the boobs in congress who pushed for this with Obama once again presented it as something for "free", when in reality, the planned costs of it in Obamacare would have caused it to implode alarmingly soon:

AP "The law required the administration to certify that CLASS would remain financially solvent for 75 years before it could be put into place.

But officials said they discovered they could not make CLASS both affordable and financially solvent while keeping it a voluntary program open to virtually all workers, as the law also required.

Monthly premiums would have ranged from $235 to $391, even as high as $3,000 under some scenarios, the administration said. At those prices, healthy people were unlikely to sign up. Suggested changes aimed at discouraging enrollment by people in poor health could have opened the program to court challenges, officials said.

"If healthy purchasers are not attracted ... then premiums will increase, which will make it even more unattractive to purchasers who could also obtain policies in the private market," Kathy Greenlee, the lead official on CLASS, said in a memo to Sebelius. That "would cause the program to quickly collapse."

That's the same conclusion a top government expert reached in 2009. Nearly a year before the health care law passed, Richard Foster, head of long-range economic forecasts for Medicare, warned administration and congressional officials that CLASS would be unworkable. His warnings were disregarded, as President Barack Obama declared his support for adding the long-term care plan to his health care bill."


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Old 10-15-2011, 04:35 PM
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If it wasn't, there wouldn't have been something like 1700 companies exempted from Obamacare.
You expect the Obama-ites to be swayed by facts and logic? Surely you jest!!
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:06 PM
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I think the objective of including it was to use the premiums to reduce the costs of the other benefits when the plan was scored. I do not think it was ever intended to be implemented as the law said the administration could kill the plan if it was too expensive.
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:34 PM
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You expect the Obama-ites to be swayed by facts and logic? Surely you jest!!
Don't call me Shirley!!!
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Old 10-15-2011, 08:16 PM
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Don't call me Shirley!!!
Trite....tiresome. Nothing original?
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Old 10-15-2011, 08:28 PM
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Trite....tiresome. Nothing original?
What exactly is wrong with you? I have heard of Minnesota Nice. What happened to you?

You do know that your supposed to stay on subject and address the issues and not one another? I do not know how you get away with all this nonsense.
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Old 10-16-2011, 12:09 AM
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What exactly is wrong with you? I have heard of Minnesota Nice. What happened to you?

You do know that your supposed to stay on subject and address the issues and not one another? I do not know how you get away with all this nonsense.
Ignore him. Trolls get their kicks by having people respond to infantile comments. No replays = no kicks and eventually no trolls.
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Old 10-16-2011, 03:13 AM
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Ignore him. Trolls get their kicks by having people respond to infantile comments. No replays = no kicks and eventually no trolls.

... a bit like that withering houseplant you forgot to water and put in the sun. Leave it alone long enough and it will wither and die... give it one drop of water and suddenly, it's clinging on for dear life once more.

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Old 10-16-2011, 07:19 AM
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Ignore him. Trolls get their kicks by having people respond to infantile comments. No replays = no kicks and eventually no trolls.
Aw....are you trying to prevent me from having a little wholesome fun?
 


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