I love to see the two mouths of our Republican friends. One side calls for "government - keep your hands out of our affairs" and the other side says "government - give us more Federal money".

Prime example of this are farm subsidies. They were started first under FDR and have carried forth to the present day. Most farmers get some crop subsidies either in the artifical boosting of crop prices or in the program to have a portion of their land lay fallow. I have some of my farming relatives who take over $80,000 annually in subsidies - and this is on top of their farm income.

If the subsidies were done away with completely, you would have farmers raising more and more crops and putting them on the free market. Crop prices would drop low and the small farms would go out of business. Well, this is lassiez-faire or "government - stay out of our business". Would this be a plan for the Republicans? Put family farmers out of business?

The States Rights people also say the Federal government should not have anything to do with state governments if it is not stated in the Constitution. I am sure the folks in tornado hit areas of Indiana, Tennessee, and Missouri are going to plenty glad to have FEMA come in with their assistance in the form of housing and in Federal money.

I have not seen any Republican candidate speak out and say he is going to legislate to do away with subsidies on soybeans, corn or wheat. In fact, Bachmann is still receiving subsidies on a farm that had been owned by family.

One notable "conservative" on this site said maybe there needs to be a "program" to make sure foreign students return home. Don't "programs" call for Big Government to step in?

How about the big oil subsidies to the tune of 40 billion dollars that republicans refuse to withdraw? Wait until the end of the first quarter and see what the oil company profits are and tell me they need a four billion dollar government subsidy per year.

how about the new one revealed this morning?
Wind farm subsidies!!!! Out West they have a coincidence occurring where the snow melt and the warming air winds are both happening at the same time. As a result the rivers are full and the dams are working their generators full blast. The wind farms are also producing at a record pace. And wouldn't ya that together they are producing more energy than can be used by the grids they feed!!! And since dams and water have the priority, the wind farms are cutting back. That means less revenue. That means unhappy wind farm owners.

They are now seeking from the federal government a "make up" amount of money to replace their lost revenues. Could be some where between $50 and $60 million dollars.

There is so much wrong with this scenario it is rather scary because the request is being advanced.

No I can't supply a link it was a news clip on one of the networks this morning.

The precedent has been establish and ongoing. The federal government supplements those companies that cannot make their income statement and balance sheets work as planned. It is very amusing that those who can't make it are requesting financial help from an organization itself that cannot make it. However, they do have UNLIMITED CREDIT....eh!!

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

how about the new one revealed this morning?
Wind farm subsidies!!!! Out West they have a coincidence occurring where the snow melt and the warming air winds are both happening at the same time. As a result the rivers are full and the dams are working their generators full blast. The wind farms are also producing at a record pace. And wouldn't ya that together they are producing more energy than can be used by the grids they feed!!! And since dams and water have the priority, the wind farms are cutting back. That means less revenue. That means unhappy wind farm owners.

They are now seeking from the federal government a "make up" amount of money to replace their lost revenues. Could be some where between $50 and $60 million dollars.

There is so much wrong with this scenario it is rather scary because the request is being advanced.

No I can't supply a link it was a news clip on one of the networks this morning.

The precedent has been establish and ongoing. The federal government supplements those companies that cannot make their income statement and balance sheets work as planned. It is very amusing that those who can't make it are requesting financial help from an organization itself that cannot make it. However, they do have UNLIMITED CREDIT....eh!!

btk

P*ss Poor Planning. Like it's the first time there was a snow melt. They should have seen that one coming and put it in the Operating Budget. When is the Government going to stop the bleeding?

So, did anyone hear any of the Republican candidates during this campaign speak of introducing legislation to stop farm subsidies or to stop Federal Crop Insurance? Maybe if the Federal Government would get out of the crop insurance business, it could be picked up by State Farm, GEICO, or Allstate. Once again, isn't that another tent that the Federal camel got his nose into and crawled right inside?

I did read about folks who want the government out of their bed rooms and away from their bodies then turn around and want the same government to provide them with free contraceptives.

Originally Posted by buggyone

I love to see the two mouths of our Republican friends. One side calls for "government - keep your hands out of our affairs" and the other side says "government - give us more Federal money".

Prime example of this are farm subsidies. They were started first under FDR and have carried forth to the present day. Most farmers get some crop subsidies either in the artifical boosting of crop prices or in the program to have a portion of their land lay fallow. I have some of my farming relatives who take over $80,000 annually in subsidies - and this is on top of their farm income.

If the subsidies were done away with completely, you would have farmers raising more and more crops and putting them on the free market. Crop prices would drop low and the small farms would go out of business. Well, this is lassiez-faire or "government - stay out of our business". Would this be a plan for the Republicans? Put family farmers out of business?

The States Rights people also say the Federal government should not have anything to do with state governments if it is not stated in the Constitution. I am sure the folks in tornado hit areas of Indiana, Tennessee, and Missouri are going to plenty glad to have FEMA come in with their assistance in the form of housing and in Federal money.

I have not seen any Republican candidate speak out and say he is going to legislate to do away with subsidies on soybeans, corn or wheat. In fact, Bachmann is still receiving subsidies on a farm that had been owned by family.

I hate to agree with you but, you have a valid point.

Originally Posted by Hancle704

I did read about folks who want the government out of their bed rooms and away from their bodies then turn around and want the same government to provide them with free contraceptives.

Are you referring to the Fluke testimony? If so, please stop lying. Nowhere was it said that the (government* was to provide free contraception.

If you're referring to something else - some other government program, please elaborate.

Cons only want the government in their lives when it suits them. See Virginia law just passed. This nonsense about smaller government is just that nonsense.

Originally Posted by waynet

Cons only want the government in their lives when it suits them. See Virginia law just passed. This nonsense about smaller government is just that nonsense.

Which Virginia law? The General Assembly has been in session so there are lots of them.

I've made the report on this subject here before.

A few years ago it was reported that the largest recipient of farm subsidies in Illinois was Scottie Pippen, then performing as a forward for the Chicago Bulls.

Let's see...Bulls...cattle...farm...subsidies arranged by his slick financial advisor. Yep, I got it. Really a great program to support those poor family farmers. I wonder which lobbyist the family farmers hired to buy votes to continue these subsidies?

Has anyone heard the candidates, from either party but particularly the supposedly more conservative GOP, saying anything about eliminating these programs?

Oh yeah, I know...they're out trying to pander for votes in states like Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois and Indiana.

Point made! Need I say more about these self-serving politicians?

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

I've made the report on this subject here before.

A few years ago it was reported that the largest recipient of farm subsidies in Illinois was Scottie Pippen, then performing as a forward for the Chicago Bulls.

Let's see...Bulls...cattle...farm...subsidies arranged by his slick financial advisor. Yep, I got it. Really a great program to support those poor family farmers. I wonder which lobbyist the family farmers hired to buy votes to continue these subsidies?

Has anyone heard the candidates, from either party but particularly the supposedly more conservative GOP, saying anything about eliminating these programs?

Oh yeah, I know...they're out trying to pander for votes in states like Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois and Indiana.

I am not really up to snuff on this subject, but wonder why your post was addressed to THE RIGHT. Is not the left running the Senate and the WH ? Are they moving forward on anything ? Or even proposed something in the house ?

just look back to not too long ago when Obama had both houses of congress on his side....not much got moved along then either!

btk