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Please watch this very disturbing news item from England and ask whether this scene may be repeating itself in Canada & USA and elswhere in the world one day?

sorry, cannot get the link to work....

The link will not display as it might be thought of as objectionable. The clip can be found on You Tube under

TIP OF THE ICEBERG - THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR BRITAIN

The link worked perfectly for me. I clicked and the arrow and the video played. I also clicked on the YouTube icon on the video and got the YouTube link which is easier to watch.

This will happen here if we do nothing. It's already beginning in Michigan and will only grow.

What should we do?..........you tell me.

I might point out that some of the more conservative Christian religions are preaching exactly the same message as the Muslims shown in this video, although maybe not as publicly as with large public demonstrations. Without question, there are some fundamental Christian religions which preach that unless one accepts their religious precepts, and regardless of how good a person is or how good a life a person might lead, they will be excluded from Heaven and will spend eternity in Hell.

That's not intended to start an argument, because it is fact. But the statement is intended to illustrate that there are other groups other than the Muslims on the religious spectrum who preach a very similar message.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

The link worked perfectly for me. I clicked and the arrow and the video played. I also clicked on the YouTube icon on the video and got the YouTube link which is easier to watch.

This will happen here if we do nothing. It's already beginning in Michigan and will only grow.

What should we do?..........you tell me.

Where in Michigan, Richie? I have a home in Michigan, my kids were born in Michigan, and one still lives there. I'm pretty familiar with the state.

If you're speaking of the heavy concentration of Muslims in Dearborn, I think if you'll do just a little research, you'll find that the vast majority of them are law-abiding, hard-working, family-oriented, religious people trying to live the same type of life that most people in America are seeking.

So, what should "we" do about that?

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Where in Michigan, Richie? I have a home in Michigan, my kids were born in Michigan, and one still lives there. I'm pretty familiar with the state.

If you're speaking of the heavy concentration of Muslims in Dearborn, I think if you'll do just a little research, you'll find that the vast majority of them are law-abiding, hard-working, family-oriented, religious people trying to live the same type of life that most people in America are seeking.

So, what should "we" do about that?

Good post, VK.

Had a number of Muslim/Arab friends at Denver University back in 1983-1984 while I was there including a librarian from the University of Mosul in Iraq. Good people when I knew them.

Also went to law school at the U of MN (Class of 1989) with the only Muslim in the US Congress. I did not know him personally but my girlfriend at the time--also a law student (Class of 1990)-- respected him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

I might point out that some of the more conservative Christian religions are preaching exactly the same message as the Muslims shown in this video, although maybe not as publicly as with large public demonstrations. Without question, there are some fundamental Christian religions which preach that unless one accepts their religious precepts, and regardless of how good a person is or how good a life a person might lead, they will be excluded from Heaven and will spend eternity in Hell.

That's not intended to start an argument, because it is fact. But the statement is intended to illustrate that there are other groups other than the Muslims on the religious spectrum who preach a very similar message.

The nonsense of your post is that Christians are "live and let live people" and the Muslims are not.

That's the fact, as you choose to ignore it.

More nonsense from the reich wingers. It never ends..........

The Christians who murder doctors and nurses who perform perfectly legal abortions, are "live and let live people"?

That's the fact, as you choose to ignore it.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

The nonsense of your post is that Christians are "live and let live people" and the Muslims are not.

That's the fact, as you choose to ignore it.

Let's just choose to disagree on this one, Richie. There are tens of millions of Muslims living peacefully in the world, as there are Christians and Jews. Sometimes they all live in close proximity with one another.

There are radicals and violent members of all religions. Sometimes a few have a greater effect on the world than others, like the dozen or so Saudi's who were Muslims and members of a terrorist organization who brought down the World Trade Centers, essentially starting a long, major, regional war. But for the most part, the vast majority of people of all religious faiths are law-abiding, "live and let live" people. If you choose to believe otherwise, that's your right. But to categorize major groups of people based on how a relative few act is incorrect in my opinion. So let's just disagree.

Originally Posted by chachacha

sorry, cannot get the link to work....

If you run IE9, do a quote on the original post and the link will show up. Copy and paste the link (berween the URL comments) into another window to access the link.

It is something between IE9 and TOTV.

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Originally Posted by coralway

More nonsense from the reich wingers. It never ends..........

The Christians who murder doctors and nurses who perform perfectly legal abortions, are "live and let live people"?

That's the fact, as you choose to ignore it.

The stupidity of your post is that you equate the sins of one Christian with the teachings of the religion when there is no correlation.

It's an ignorant analogy.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Let's just choose to disagree on this one, Richie. There are tens of millions of Muslims living peacefully in the world, as there are Christians and Jews. Sometimes they all live in close proximity with one another.

There are radicals and violent members of all religions. Sometimes a few have a greater effect on the world than others, like the dozen or so Saudi's who were Muslims and members of a terrorist organization who brought down the World Trade Centers, essentially starting a long, major, regional war. But for the most part, the vast majority of people of all religious faiths are law-abiding, "live and let live" people. If you choose to believe otherwise, that's your right. But to categorize major groups of people based on how a relative few act is incorrect in my opinion. So let's just disagree.

Damn right, I disagree.

If you watched the UK video you wouldn't be advancing this ignorant analogy comparing Christians with Muslims. The hundreds or thousands of Muslims on the streets of the UK chanting their vileness has no comparison to present day Christians or their religion's teachings. The monstrous acts of Islam all over the world is in stark contrast to the teachings of Christianity, and the acts of Christians.

Minority of Muslims, my butt.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

I might point out that some of the more conservative Christian religions are preaching exactly the same message as the Muslims shown in this video, although maybe not as publicly as with large public demonstrations. Without question, there are some fundamental Christian religions which preach that unless one accepts their religious precepts, and regardless of how good a person is or how good a life a person might lead, they will be excluded from Heaven and will spend eternity in Hell.

That's not intended to start an argument, because it is fact. But the statement is intended to illustrate that there are other groups other than the Muslims on the religious spectrum who preach a very similar message.

in my opinion there is no religion more fundamentalist than Islam except maybe atheism.

Take a close look at Detroit and tell not to worry about this pull your head out of the sand