Originally Posted by DDoug

Take a close look at Detroit and tell not to worry about this pull your head out of the sand

That's what I said, but VK says he's in Michigan and most all the Muslims are just such good tolerant patriotic Americans, who just love their fellow Americans so much, be they infidel or not.

i saw the video and the most disturbing statement, in case some did not notice, was that they do not respect any law but sharia! all the other laws of all the other lands can go to hell, in their words...so where does that leave us? we must stop sharia law from being used in this country! that is the only way the really radical muslims will leave...the secularized, peace-loving ones will stay and obey our laws, but the radicals will leave. i hate to use the word "secularized" which i usually consider a negative thing, but in this case it is necessary. maybe i should use "civilized"?

I lived in Dearborn, Michigan for 50 years. I just moved her full time last October. My children and two siblings still live in Dearborn. I can see this type of protest happening in my former home town. Dearborn is nothing like it was in the 1960s or 1970s. I worked at two health facilities in Dearborn. I had been told that I looked naked and I was wearing traditional scrubs. I have seen women that weren’t allowed to have procedures because it required a male physician and no female physician was available. It is not as far fetched as some might think. It is pretty scary stuff. That is just my two cents. I don't post often because I don't consider myself knowledgeable about all things political.

Thank you, EWStanley from Dearborn. You understood the video. I posted it, not to initiate racial slurs, or such, but as an alert that the laws of the land (or adopted land by many of those protesters) are considered worthless by these radical groups. Only Shiai (sp?) law is "real" - hence those statements and posters reading "Death to the British" (or fill in the name of the county) Sadly, those protesters are living in England, but feel they are not held accountable to "British way of life and laws". As I watched the video of the "naked" British gal from Luton, I became anxious for her safety. I hope the voting public of this great nation, take note. Freedom is a precious thing, and easily lost when it is gradually eroded, one tiny piece at a time......

Originally Posted by shrandell

Thank you, EWStanley from Dearborn. You understood the video. I posted it, not to initiate racial slurs, or such, but as an alert that the laws of the land (or adopted land by many of those protesters) are considered worthless by these radical groups. Only Shiai (sp?) law is "real" - hence those statements and posters reading "Death to the British" (or fill in the name of the county) Sadly, those protesters are living in England, but feel they are not held accountable to "British way of life and laws". As I watched the video of the "naked" British gal from Luton, I became anxious for her safety. I hope the voting public of this great nation, take note. Freedom is a precious thing, and easily lost when it is gradually eroded, one tiny piece at a time......

Not sure how much you can get out of this one incident. The Islam religion is incredibly complex with a history going back to the 600s. This video just looked like a woman trying to get attention by putting something on the Internet.

It is kind of like someone on TOTV going to Sanford and saying what is going on there is indicative of what all Christians are like. The Neo-Nazi are now also joining the media circus which is the Trayvon Martin case. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1409099.html The woman from the video insinuated herself into a cause involving very emotional Muslims who also look like they are very strict adherents to some perhaps radical part of Islam judging from the dress of the women in the video.

How would you like it if one of these Muslim women judged the Christain faith on some Neo-Nazis clashing with Trayvon Martin backers on the streets of Sanford, Florida?

How many christians attempted to murder those responsible for removing a cross from a location? How many Muslims attempted to kill infidels because they did not show the reverence of their Koran? You get the picture.
The Muslims have declared jihad on infidels three times since the 6th century

I moved down from the Minneapolis area having lived in the city that housed the Vikings. Over the years Muslims began populating everywhere in the area. If there occupation was driving a taxi they would refuse to accept any fare from the airport where passenger had brought home alchohol. If they worked in stores as a cashier, then they would not touch pork and that created a problem They congregated in downtown areas of Minneapolis and created a nightmare for merchants. They demanded and still do "shari law". in dress aand belief they made it clear to city fathers merchants police etc that they would not bend to america's way

If you will recall the 20th 9/11 hijacker took flying lessons in Minnapolis and about 10 years later several young men from the Minneapolis/St Paul area were recruited by Al Queda. These people made it clear they werte radical and had no intention of to accepting western ways. The Miineapolis area is still a hotbed for promoting radicalism in America,

What is happening in Europe is a harbinger. France Holland and even Switzerland have been making modification to their immigration policies as well as domestic policies to stem the negative influence Muslims have had in their countries.

Liberals support of this group is misplaced and they are being played

Originally Posted by rubicon

How many christians attempted to murder those responsible for removing a cross from a location? How many Muslims attempted to kill infidels because they did not show the reverence of their Koran? You get the picture.
The Muslims have declared jihad on infidels three times since the 6th century

I moved down from the Minneapolis area having lived in the city that housed the Vikings. Over the years Muslims began populating everywhere in the area. If there occupation was driving a taxi they would refuse to accept any fare from the airport where passenger had brought home alchohol. If they worked in stores as a cashier, then they would not touch pork and that created a problem They congregated in downtown areas of Minneapolis and created a nightmare for merchants. They demanded and still do "shari law". in dress aand belief they made it clear to city fathers merchants police etc that they would not bend to america's way

If you will recall the 20th 9/11 hijacker took flying lessons in Minnapolis and about 10 years later several young men from the Minneapolis/St Paul area were recruited by Al Queda. These people made it clear they werte radical and had no intention of to accepting western ways. The Miineapolis area is still a hotbed for promoting radicalism in America,

What is happening in Europe is a harbinger. France Holland and even Switzerland have been making modification to their immigration policies as well as domestic policies to stem the negative influence Muslims have had in their countries.

Liberals support of this group is misplaced and they are being played

How many people in Minneapolis are you actually talking about Rubicon? There are hotheads and radicals everywhere of all religions.

I am not supporting radical Muslims, nor radical Protestans, nor radical Catholics.

I just do not like judging an entire group of people like Muslims, or Catholics, or Protestants, by a few religious zealots.

"Jihad" also has a lot of different meanings-- http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religi.../jihad_1.shtml

I remember the Minneapolis controversy - especially about cab drivers.

Eventually they were told "carry the fares or lose your license".

Muslim Cab Drivers Refuse to Transport Alcohol, and Dogs - ABC News

Wonder why this insistence on a group of religious zealots (mainly Muslims from Somalia) following their religion by not accepting people carrying alcohol and/or dogs as fares is not seen as freedom of religion when the Catholic Church's challenging President Obama's position on contraception also meets with that argument??

Are some religions more equal than others? paraphrasing George Orwell in Animal Farm.

So, I guess the question for this forum is whether or not they want Islam banned from America or not?

The apologists are making me ill. When the worst happens, it'll be blood on your hands.

Originally Posted by buggyone

So, I guess the question for this forum is whether or not they want Islam banned from America or not?

Just understand the gravity of this problem and quit sweeping it under the rug. These people are not the same as us. They're not "Americans". Their reactionary religion is their identity, period.

Originally Posted by buggyone
So, I guess the question for this forum is whether or not they want Islam banned from America or not?
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"Just understand the gravity of this problem and quit sweeping it under the rug. These people are not the same as us. They're not "Americans". Their reactionary religion is their identity, period."

And it looks as though the answer to the above question has been answered by at least one person on the forum. It sounds as though he is saying American Muslims are not Americans because of their being a member of a "reactionary religion". What happened to the First Amendment? I thought that applied to all Americans. Oh, I see, Muslims are not Americans. I forgot for a second that this country was founded on freedom of religion.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Originally Posted by buggyone
So, I guess the question for this forum is whether or not they want Islam banned from America or not?
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"Just understand the gravity of this problem and quit sweeping it under the rug. These people are not the same as us. They're not "Americans". Their reactionary religion is their identity, period."

And it looks as though the answer to the above question has been answered by at least one person on the forum. It sounds as though he is saying American Muslims are not Americans because of their being a member of a "reactionary religion". What happened to the First Amendment? I thought that applied to all Americans. Oh, I see, Muslims are not Americans. I forgot for a second that this country was founded on freedom of religion.

You're missing the point. I'm not saying they're not Americans. They'll tell you themselves. They're Muslims who live here, but have no respect for us as infidels. They know they will outlast us and convert us or kill us, if it takes a century. They have patience, and are emboldened by apologists like yourself. Your attitude is why they know they will win in the end.

Even modernized Muslims by and large will not condemn the vile acts of their compatriots, and by a large majority "understand" why the World Trade Center attack was a justifiable act.

Look up the phrase "useful idiots". Maybe that will explain it better.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Muslim Cab Drivers Refuse to Transport Alcohol, and Dogs - ABC News

Wonder why this insistence on a group of religious zealots (mainly Muslims from Somalia) following their religion by not accepting people carrying alcohol and/or dogs as fares is not seen as freedom of religion when the Catholic Church's challenging President Obama's position on contraception also meets with that argument??

Are some religions more equal than others? paraphrasing George Orwell in Animal Farm.

Taltarzac: Seriously? Maybe you missed all the televised riots creatd when soliders accidentally burned some Korans. Or the reports on the attempts made against the life of Swedish newspaper jorunalist that carried a carton caricuture of Mohammend, etc. etc. etc.

As this immigration population increases in America many American cities are
headed for some major headaches.